[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2019-04-25 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present:
  + Olivier, Christian, Eike, Kendy, Thorsten, Heiko, Xisco, Caolan,
Michael S, Michael M, Michael W, Stephan

* Completed Action Items:
+ mentors to check through the list here (All)
+ https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
+ drop ESC advice on alien formats into relevant bug ticket (Heiko)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115291#c15 

* Pending Action Items:
+ run the certification script (Kendy)

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 6.2.4 rc1 – next week starting April 29th
+ 6.1.6 rc2
   + tagged before the call – builds triggered
+ 6.3 alpha1: early May, week 19
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
+ Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
+ fixes in build (sberg, himanjin1)
+ Fixes in search (buovjaga)
+ Helpcontent2
+ fixes (ohallot)
+ updates in function names (kompilainen)
+ Google Seasons of DOC
+ Awaiting April 30th for response
+ Guides:
+ Stalled. Will interact with GSoD

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
251(251) (topicUI) bugs open, 211(211) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months  
 added 11(7) 20(10)34(9)   78(11) 
 commented 71(30)   217(34)   493(35)1390(66) 
   removed  0(-3) 5(-1)13(0)   22(-1) 
  resolved  3(1) 11(-4)50(-5) 132(2)  
+ top 10 contributors:
  Tietze, Heiko made 89 changes in 1 month, and 568 changes in 1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 70 changes in 1 month, and 188 changes in 1 year
  Kainz, Andreas made 63 changes in 1 month, and 208 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 36 changes in 1 month, and 201 changes in 1 year
  Dieter Praas made 33 changes in 1 month, and 149 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Faulí made 33 changes in 1 month, and 254 changes in 1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 24 changes in 1 month, and 223 changes in 1 year
  Brinzing, Oliver made 20 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 15 changes in 1 month, and 113 changes in 1 year
  Mehrbrodt, Samuel made 10 changes in 1 month, and 67 changes in 1 year

   + New needsUXEval between Apr/18-25

  * Context toolbar make jumping ui
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124835 
  * Formatting: Formula result has different alignment than regular values
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124860 
  * close button on menubar didn't use the color of the menubar
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124928 
  * Save icon breaks icon customization
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98193  
  => in discussion

  * Help->About LibreOffice dialog does not specify whether 32 or 64 bit 
is installed
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124936
+ proposal is to add 32bits when its not 64.
  * UI: the wording around tools - options - LibreOffice Calc - Formula -
Recalculation on File Load is questionable
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124784 
  => new/easyhack
+ currently option is Never
   + it is dangerous currently (Heiko)
 + might need an update.
 + can re-calculate alien formats
   + Is there a good reason to break calcs ? (Michael)
   + no way to detect if you need re-calculation (Eike)
 + would be there always for Alien formats.
   + sometimes we have to calculate this (Eike)
 + can have some other wording, but …
+ suggestion is two-fold (Heiko)
   + not having a blocking dialog
 → info-bar is not controversial (Michael)
   + ask the user or not.
 → asking the user is controversial (Michael, Eike)
+ problem can be with files stored in an older version (Eike)
   + these can need re-calculating from an old version.
   + if we add a bug & then save it – things break (Kendy)
   + perhaps safest always recalculate – but poor performance (Eike)
  + could depend on the version – before 6.2.3 
eg. but not a friend of that.
   + new, older + alien format options ? (Heiko)
  + not clear to the user why he should choose any of them (Eike)
   + should do something familiar (Michael)

  * Option to turn off autocomplete text in quick find
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124774 
  => wfm

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ Google / ossfuzz:
  + 12 (+2,-0) issues
  + fix in gerrit.
+ Crash testing:
  + 6(-2) import failure, 22(+18) export failures
- export failures are really 

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-Apr-25

2019-04-25 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: Cor, Heiko

Tickets 

 * Display components of formula without edit
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124102
   + WFM (Heiko, Eike, Cor)
   + alternative is the detective
   => resolve as WFM

 * EDITING: Need Default Keyboard Shortcut for Strike-Through
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64849
   + ctrl+K suggested but not working
   + no need as customization works well; ctrl+k used for hyperlink (Dave)
   + though some apps provide a shortcut it's not one of the most frequently 
used features
   + we are short on good shortcuts, ctrl+k or - are occupied
   => keep it for customization

 * UI: the wording around tools - options - LibreOffice Calc - Formula - 
Recalculation on File Load is questionable
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124784
   + use "ODF spreadsheet" (without "not saved...") and update help (Cor)
 + "recent" was it years ago
   + show the recalculation option with an infobar in case of "prompt user" 
(and make it the default)
   => go with this potential easyhack

 * Inform user when a font style doesn't exist (bold, italic,...)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100900
   + WFM, expert users know their fonts and there arent too many avergae fonts 
without bold/italic (Heiko)
   + +1 for the idea (Thomas, Tomaz, Cor, kellnerp)
 Cor on the fence - later on..
   + potential solutions
 + use icons with subtle decorations (small star at the edge when bold not 
included) with drawback at customization
 + add some kind of identification to the icon, eg. a frame
 + just have a tooltip "this weight is calculated"
   + icon decoration and tooltip dont work with menus (Format > Text > Bold 
or Style [F11] > Emphasis)
 + show an infobar when the file is loaded and fonts are included that 
neeed math
   + however.. requires to scan the doc, scan present fonts
   + and inform user if font is used, or only if font style, not present, 
is used
   + and mention font names too...
+ rather lots of things to do/consider for situations where we must 
consider that the involved user
  should have knowledge..
   => keep open, favorize infobar to show missing fonts and missing font 
properties

 * PARAGRAPH BORDER: Modification border always adds a new border
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124748
   + "Merge with next paragraph" off by default
   + wouldnt change the default for rare case(s) (Cor)
   => closed as NAB (Stuart)

 * tabs in calc (for sheets) and draw (for layer) style
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124572
   + and https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97555 for multi 
selection
   + proposed solutions are not perfect (Cor)
   + respect the system theming (Heiko)
   => WFM (Cor, Heiko)





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