Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-08-06
On 13.8.2020 20.15, Terrence Enger wrote: On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 16:57 +0200, Miklos Vajna wrote: * corrupted user profile: how to handle that? (Heiko) + interesting if we have steps wrt how to corrupt it (Xisco) + otherwise: clean the profile via safe mode Yeah, I just had one of these (tdf#135398, of little interest). And the closest I could come for the wanted steps was "I routinely abuse LibreOffice in every way I can think of, and then I do it all over again." This is somewhat short on detail. I have hacked together a script to commit the user profile to a git repository after execution of soffice. My hope is that I shall be able to usefully localize the origin of the corruption. If I have success, I will come back for advice on how to generalize and share my work. I guess success here means that (a) I get versioning working; (b) I stumble across another problem dependent on a corrupted profile, and I can bisect back to an execution of LO; (c) the changes made by that execution are both small enough to bear examination and they inform somebody (probably not me) of what went wrong. It would be good--but is probably too much to hope for-- that I should remember what I was doing in that execution of LO. Should I persist in this effort? Thoughts welcome. I think it's a good idea! A neat way to get diagnostics in the background. I hope you persist. Ilmari ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-08-06
On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 16:57 +0200, Miklos Vajna wrote: > > * corrupted user profile: how to handle that? (Heiko) > + interesting if we have steps wrt how to corrupt it (Xisco) > + otherwise: clean the profile via safe mode Yeah, I just had one of these (tdf#135398, of little interest). And the closest I could come for the wanted steps was "I routinely abuse LibreOffice in every way I can think of, and then I do it all over again." This is somewhat short on detail. I have hacked together a script to commit the user profile to a git repository after execution of soffice. My hope is that I shall be able to usefully localize the origin of the corruption. If I have success, I will come back for advice on how to generalize and share my work. I guess success here means that (a) I get versioning working; (b) I stumble across another problem dependent on a corrupted profile, and I can bisect back to an execution of LO; (c) the changes made by that execution are both small enough to bear examination and they inform somebody (probably not me) of what went wrong. It would be good--but is probably too much to hope for-- that I should remember what I was doing in that execution of LO. Should I persist in this effort? Thoughts welcome. Meanwhile, for those who might be interested, here is the "usage" message of the script: terry@buster:~/lo_hacking/git/libo6$ ~/lo_hacking/scripts/soff --help Usage: soff [ OPTIONS ] [ -- [ ARGUMENTS_TO_LO ] ] OPTIONS --help | -h print this message and exit --intent MSGone-line declaration, sticks until changed --soffice=run|debugrun|skip run (default) run soffice directly debugrun run gdb around soffice skip do not run soffice at all --skip-git do not commit user profile after soffice ARGUMENTS_TO_LO are passed unchanged to LiberOffice except that ARGUMENTS_TO_LO are ignored when --soffice=debugrun and after execution of: ~/lo_hacking/scripts/soff \ --intent "just playing around with versioning the user profile" \ -- -writer here is the commit message: terry@buster:~/lo_hacking/git/libo6$ GIT_DIR=user_profile_git/.git/ \ git log -1 commit de5c2cee84ee6efc85d938600b4401d0e1d27da9 (HEAD -> master) Author: Terrence Enger Date: Thu Aug 13 12:12:09 2020 -0400 s-h 28022cee396715bc4b474ed1571074dc721bbe13 just playing around with versioning the user profile exit code from soffice = 0; 2020-08-13T12:12:09-04:00 Thanks, Terry. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-08-13
* Present: + Caolan, Heiko, Gabriel, Xisco, Thorsten, Ilmari, Stephan, Michael S, Miklos * Completed Action Items: + None * Pending Action Items: + make a decision on what notebookbar variant to promote (Heiko) + see tdf#135501 for details + no decision yet * Release Engineering update (Xisco) + 7.0 status: 7.0.1 rc1 is tagged + 6.4 status: 6.4.6 was announced + Remotes + Android viewer + Online * Documentation (Olivier) * UX Update (Heiko) + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics 248(248) (topicUI) bugs open, 245(245) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam + Updates: BZ changes 1 week1 month 3 months 12 months added 6(-5)18(-3)41(0) 156(-1) commented 108(12) 352(17) 970(18)3634(35) removed 0(0) 2(-1)10(1) 53(2) resolved 7(0) 37(1)110(-11)384(-1) + top 10 contributors: Heiko Tietze made 178 changes in 1 month, and 2104 changes in 1 year Telesto made 84 changes in 1 month, and 326 changes in 1 year Foote, V Stuart made 40 changes in 1 month, and 572 changes in 1 year Dieter Praas made 36 changes in 1 month, and 506 changes in 1 year Xisco Fauli made 36 changes in 1 month, and 546 changes in 1 year Timur made 34 changes in 1 month, and 236 changes in 1 year Kainz, Andreas made 20 changes in 1 month, and 427 changes in 1 year R. Green made 15 changes in 1 month, and 25 changes in 1 year Cougar Brenneman made 13 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year Nabet, Julien made 13 changes in 1 month, and 85 changes in 1 year + New tickets with needsUXEval Aug/06-13 * A showcase of HTML import, editing and export bugs + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135282 -> * Bad layout for extra options in save dialog + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135554 -> * Change the default UI + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501 + discussing what notebookbar variants to remove, no consensus yet * Print preview always places pages in LTR order + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135515 * Search-Replace: Regular Expression engine fails on zero length matches + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135538 => in discussion * EDITING: Drag and drop from Windows Explorer to Writer does not make OLE object + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135669 -> * Margins in sidebar are confusing + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135572 * Fonts preview and libreoffice cover illegible + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135565 => new * LIST STYLES: formatting is not being consistently applied to paragraphs + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135336 * Vorschlag zur Änderung beim Steuerelement "Schaltfläche" + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135503 * Soft Edge Sidebar String + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135499 => NAB * Crash testing (Caolan) + 6(-2) import failure, 34(+27) export failures + 18 coverity issues - builds seem broken again + 15 ossfuzz issues - believe 2 fixes are in queue * Crash Reporting (Xisco) + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.6.2 + (+32) 1750 1866 1834 1900 2143 2188 2094 2327 1758 1376 858 668 529 283 0 + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.4.2 + (-160) 3606 3766 4029 4353 5352 6607 6857 7333 5252 3670 1638 0 + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.5.2 + (-344) 2208 2552 2315 1761 1162 0 + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.0.3 + (+3052) 3840 788 0 + if notebookbar is enabled, then we crash on startup → fixed + launch of the about dialog → fixed + Skia related crashes - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SkSurface::getCanvas() - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SkSurface::flushAndSubmit() + Lubos will see if he can do something here (Miklos) * GSoC 2020 (Thorsten/Ilmari) + Projects announced: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/05/05/9769/ + June 1, 2020 - August 24, 2020: Students work on their projects + 6 projects accepted + the game is on, students are reporting more or less regularly + remind your students if it's not happening + August 31, 2020 - September 7, 2020: Mentors Submit Final Evaluations + Students will have a panel: (Thorsten) + mentors: please poke your students to have a 10-15 mins presentation of their work + Reminder: end of GSoC is close: + merge your gerrit changes
[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Aug-13
Present: Sascha, John, Rizal, Heiko Comments: Aron, Seth Tickets/Topic * Insert image location points to AppData\Roaming\LibreOfficeDev\4\user\gallery with a fresh profile + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135474 => bug 132734 + duplicate of tdf#132734 (Rizal) + good idea; query the default image directory (Aron) + see also bug 129292 and bug 43021 -> Options "last used directory" (Seth) + no objection (Sascha, Heiko) => do it * Bad layout for extra options in save dialog + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135554 + options without wrap, indented to the controls above, no columns (Heiko) + place "Save with password" and "Encrypt with GPG key" in a second column (Sascha) + auto extension not working (Sascha), IIRC we talked about this (Heiko) + edit filter settings applies only for text with encoding; according help it sets information in file header; place this option in the extra dialog that always pops-up (Sascha); remove the option (Heiko) => improve it * UI: Settings for 'Printer" or 'Print to file" should be drop down box (or something else) instead of radio button + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135410 + get rid of different defaults (Heiko) + dropdown or tabs is a bit better than radio buttons + wonder is this is related to Export to PDF; never used that (John, Sascha) => comment on the ticket * Allow more font and position formatting for watermarks + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115737 + Position, Relative size, Absolute font size + keep it simple, no enhancement needed (Heiko) + agree with position, at least (Sascha) + some/all features are available in Onlyoffice and WPS (Rizal) => do it * scrolling vertical tab bar instead of horizontal multi-tab dialogs + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113418 + dialogs with vertical "tabs" wouldn't be according the OS/DE anymore but make the application likely more appealing than (stacked) tabs + sidebar with large image and text might be a good solution for option dialogs but not in case of properties; good icons are very challenging and doubt it's helpful (Sascha) + would appreciate the sidebar with icon solution instead of tabs (Rizal) + never liked the tabs, go with sidebar (John) + ideally we have a solution that can be reverted if not accepted (Heiko) => comment on BZ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
