Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2024-04-04

[Eyal Rozenberg]

Shame on the BoD - current and previous - for carrying out the entire
hiring process for a RTL/CTL/CJK develop while completely shutting out
(*) the RTL language community, for the second time, despite the
explicit protest and demand not to do so.

And it is unfortunate that the ESC acknowledges this having occurred
without even hinting at an obligation to consult with the relevant
language communities/groups.

Eyal

(*) - I'm making the assumption that this was not discussed on the Farsi
Telegram channel, which I do not follow; otherwise it's "shutting out a
significant part of the RTL language community." Also, I would not be
surprised if the CJK community wasn't involved either.


On 04/04/2024 17:35, Miklos Vajna wrote:

* Present:
     + Cloph, Hossein, Michael W, Olivier, Caolan, Ilmari, Jonathan,
Michael S, Stephan, Xisco, Miklos, Heiko, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6: 7.6.7 RC1 week 16
     + 24.2: 24.2.3 RC1 week 15

* Welcome Jonathan Clark

     - New RTL/CTL/CJK developer

     - working for TDF

     - reviewing bug backlog currently

     - preferred IRC nick? :-) (Xisco)

   - jclark or so

ESC meeting minutes: 2024-04-04

[Miklos Vajna]

* Present:
+ Cloph, Hossein, Michael W, Olivier, Caolan, Ilmari, Jonathan, Michael S, 
Stephan, Xisco, Miklos, Heiko, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6: 7.6.7 RC1 week 16
+ 24.2: 24.2.3 RC1 week 15

* Welcome Jonathan Clark

- New RTL/CTL/CJK developer

- working for TDF

- reviewing bug backlog currently

- preferred IRC nick? :-) (Xisco)

  - jclark or so


* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
   + Some CSS fixes (JJ)
+ Helpcontents2
   + Fixes and updates (D. MAddern)
   + Housekeeping some "D'oh! you found a bug" (ohallot)
   + Updates on hyphenation pages ( L. Nemetz)
+ Guides
   + WIP
   + xml:id 
(https://docs.oasis-open.org/office/OpenDocument/v1.3/os/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.3-os-part3-schema.html#__RefHeading__1419430_253892949)
  + Is it implemented/used in LO?
  + It's implement in Writer, but only for a fraction of the elements 
allowed by the schema (Michael S)
  + should work for  and other metadata-related ones
  + see 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DevGuide/OfficeDev/RDF_metadata#RDF_metadata
  + bottom of the page has the details, can generate an ID using the 
API / by a macro
  + would be helpful for translation as well (Olivier)
  + also on the TDF wiki these days (Thorsten)
+ API website looks outdated, it's on 7.4 (Olivier)
  + https://api.libreoffice.org/
AI: Cloph to update this

+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
269(269) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month3 months   12 months
   created  8(-4)52(-9) 88(3) 229(-2)
 commented 15(0)102(-15)   242(3) 893(-2)
  resolved  1(-6)20(-6) 38(-2)117(-4)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Pierre F made 30 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
  Olivier Hallot made 29 changes in 1 month, and 260 changes in 1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 18 changes in 1 month, and 262 changes in 1 year
  Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 17 changes in 1 month, and 23 changes in 
1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 14 changes in 1 month, and 92 changes in 1 
year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 14 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 
year
  Heiko Tietze made 13 changes in 1 month, and 94 changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 12 changes in 1 month, and 67 changes in 1 year
  *UNKNOWN* made 11 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
  Dione Maddern made 10 changes in 1 month, and 21 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
246(246) (topicUI) bugs open, 41(41) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months   12 months
 added  4(-5) 18(-1) 20(0)   30(-1)
 commented 50(-41)   265(-10)   536(37)2029(18)
   removed  1(1)   1(1)   1(1)   13(0)
  resolved  8(1)  28(3)  80(5)  313(3)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Stéphane Guillou made 112 changes in 1 month, and 665 changes in 1 
year
  Heiko Tietze made 95 changes in 1 month, and 1153 changes in 1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 59 changes in 1 month, and 287 changes in 1 
year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 29 changes in 1 month, and 170 changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 25 changes in 1 month, and 118 changes in 1 year
  Justin Luth made 18 changes in 1 month, and 140 changes in 1 year
  Patrick Luby made 17 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
  Devansh Varshney made 16 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 1 year
  Ady made 12 changes in 1 month, and 134 changes in 1 year
  m.a.riosv made 12 changes in 1 month, and 62 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 160505] Implement "recency" navigation for Calc module and make 
available
   from TB or Sidebar Navigator
+ [Bug 160249] Support marking text as having an arbitrary language
+ [Bug 160452] Calc: default anchor everything to CELL
+ [Bug 160447] styles: allow us to copy, clone styles, plz
+ [Bug 160441] F11 Stylist deck -- provide a user's "favorite" style 
grouping for
   each style category
+ [Bug 160445] change default of Settings > Application Colors > Custom Colors 
>
   Automatic from "Light" to "System Theme"
  + https://fosstodon.org/@libodesign/112201034714884916
+ [Bug 160442] export "style sheets" and import them -- a long way to go 
yet,
   isn't it?
+ [Bug 160411] Support an "XY+Value" scatter plot chart type
+ [Bug 160350] Replies to comment are in reverse order
+ [Bug 160349] Add toolbar icons to change UI and scheme to switch 
Light/Dark
+ [Bug 160324] Column resize handle touch-target too 

Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Apr-04

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: Felix, Cor, Hossein, Rafael, Heiko
Comments: Mike, Regina, Bogdan, Timur, Cor, Stephane

Tickets/Topics

 * "Page number" automatic field stops counting before last page if offset >0
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35694
   + help is clear on the function (Regina)
   + just a wording issue but rather introduce another field "page reference",
  which would have the offset attribute (Mike, Regina)
   + comment 70 and 78 are wisdom; missing a good proposal (Cor)
   + compatibility is prime (Hossein)
 + neither prev/next nor offset are stored with docx
 + MSO offsets per field code like "{={PAGE}-10} of {={NUMPAGES}*20}"
   showing "-9 of 80" (not stored as a field on saving as ODT)
   + offset for pagee count is via set variable > page + x (Heiko)
   => comment on ticket

 * Replies to comment are in reverse order
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160350
   + chat-like order D, C, B, A (latest on top) vs. book style
 A, B, C, D (latest at bottom) (Bogdan)
   + latest on top makes sense (Heiko)
   + current implementation shows comments on the place where they
 are made, i.e. below the comment where one chooses: reply,
 which makes sense to me (Cor)
   + all other applications do it book-like (Timur, Bogdan, Felix)
   => do it (consider an expert option)

 * Add toolbar icons to change UI and scheme to switch Light/Dark
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160349
   + useful for tester and user (Rafael)
 + switching only tools > application colors via the new control (Rafael)
 + fixes fallout from bug 160445
   + strongly against adding rarely used functions to the primary UI,
 options would also be hard-coded and not easy to remove later (Heiko)
   + MS has a "Switch Modes" option in the View ribbon (Hossein, Felix)
   => majority are for the option

 * Pressing Tab with partially selected numbered paragraphs deletes content
   instead of changing level
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160317
   + agree on the expectation (Stephane, Felix)
   + inconsistent with inserting a literal tab (Heiko)
   + compatibility is prime (Hossein)
 + tab overwrites in MSO; but tab on the first list item indents
   the whole list anyway (only second increases the level we do)
 + literal tab is inserted on any position >0, ie. inside the text
 + otherwise the level for the whole selection is increased
   + always indent for selection over multiple paragraphs (Rafael, Felix)
   + current behavior depends on selection mode, ie. adding selection inserts
 at the beginning while extend does on the end (Heiko)
   => majority agrees with the request


OpenPGP_signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature