Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Saying Goodbye
Le 14/02/2018 à 20:52, Jay Philips a écrit : Thank you for all you've done for the project, and for the interesting discusssions we've had along the way :-) Goog luck in your new endeavour. Alex > Hi Guys, > > It has been alot of fun these last 4 years working with the many > libreoffice teams, but like all things in life, things come to an end, > so i'd like to thank you all for the pleasure of working with you and > wish you all the best in the continuous success of LO. > > Just as a note, all of the documents i've written related to LO are > accessible through my wiki user page. > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Philipz > > Regards, > Yousuf Philips > > > ___ > List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list > Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org > Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ > ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
Le 13/01/2017 à 15:03, Michael Meeks a écrit : > * make 3.81 (Michael S) > + Mac comes with 3.81 (Cloph) >+ but fine with dropping support for it. >+ if people build with lode – they get a current make anyway (Michael > S) > + recommended (JanI) So, dropping make 3.8.1 on Mac would clearly push people not to build with the XCode system provided tools ? Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Blitz on Base bugs
Morning all, So, I see that for some reason which is yet unclear to me, there is currently a blitz on Base bugs from the QA reminder bot. Quite why, I must confess to not understanding. What is the rationale that predicts why it should be likely that any of these bugs have been fixed or have gone away over the various versions ? Especially those of regular Base bug reporters, I see the reminders even target the bugs that the Base dev "guardian of the code" has opened ? I get that it is indiscriminate, but where is the advantage ? When there is (are) only one (and occasionally two) devs actually working on the code, why should the bugs have disappeared all of a sudden (or over time) ? As the overwhelming majority of anwsers in response to those reminders have shown, the bugs are still present. This is hardly surprising given that there are too few developers around to be able to work on them. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Blitz on Base bugs
Le 19/01/2016 14:01, Jochen Schiffers a écrit : Hi Jochen, > It is IHMO correct (all 6 months) to check if bugreports are actual. > The problem is that only one (and occasionally two) devs actually is/are > working on the code. But this not the problem of QA. I never said it was the problem of QA that only 2 devs work on the Base code. My issue is with what appears to have been targeting a module for which the number of open bugs will necessarily not have diminished a great deal since the inception of the project precisely because not many people work on Base, and consequently receiving 200 or so emails in the process, when it is pretty obvious to anyone that knows the Base module and reports bugs in Base that most of these issues are extremely unlikely to be fixed in any sort of reasonable timeframe, or have been fixed, due to the very lack of developers working on that module. I've always had a problem with bulk email bug reminders, and this has definitely pushed my patience over my limit - for me, it only makes sense if one understands the context behind the number of bugs reported and tailors the reminder policy accordingly. I accept that we may not have the resources or desire to do that, but regretfully, this policy has pushed me to announce my immediate withdrawal from any further QA work, certainly at least for the time being. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Building or bibisecting
Le 01/12/2015 15:56, Sophie a écrit : Hi Sophie, > Hi all, > > I would like to know who here is frequently building LibreOffice or is > bibisecting on a regular basis? > You can either answer on the list or directly to me if you prefer. > Thanks a lot in advance for your feedback I try and build once a day on Mac from master, with personalized autogen input parameters (with-lang=fr, disable-firebird-sdbc, enable-ext-mariadb-connector, and some other extensions). BTW, I noticed a few untranslated menu entries in my 5.1 alpha the other day, before 5.1 rc branch-off. I don't bibisect - one of the reasons being that last time I tried, bibisecting on OSX required one to go through the pain of Gatekeeper every *** time you start LO, the other being that bibisect support is/was incomplete for anything earlier than 4.1. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday
Le 26/11/2015 17:00, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Cor, > In the early days, there was the meme that we needed good bug reports. > Then that changed to good sample documents; tThen finding the first > affected version; and now bibisecting. You forgot the "please provide a full backtrace with symbols" (yes, I have seen some of my backtraces declared obsolete because they lacked symbols) ;-) Not to mention that OS specific bugs, such as ones that are seen only on OSX, for example, often seem to have no bibisectable repo (there doesn't seem to be anything earlier than 4.1 branch off at http://dev-downloads.libreoffice.org/MacOS_Bibibsect/ Virtualy all, if not all, of the current font weight support problems on OSX seem to have appeared with the move to 4.1, so we would need a bibisect repo from 3.5 to 4.1 to even start looking at these particular regressions. CoreText work at the time is said to be the culprit (at least, that is the comment I have seen from one dev in some of these reports). Similar problems with access to complete bibisect repos on Windows exist, as far as my limited understanding of the problem goes. How are OS-specific bugs treated if there is no bibisectable repo ? Do they just pile up and get forgotten in a corner ? Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Gathering OpenGL info
Le 04/10/2015 13:04, Yousuf 'Jay' Philips a écrit : Hi Jay, > Hi All, > > I've just added info to the OpenGL wiki page on how to get a computer's > OpenGL details so QA can instruct users to provide this when they are > reporting bugs related to this. The OpenGL Driver Monitor only seems to be available to people with OSX Developer accounts, where it can be found in the Graphics Tools DMG as an additional download in the Developer Downloads. Once the Grapics Tools download has been completed, mount the disk image and double-click on OpenGL Driver Monitor. Then go to menu Monitors > Renderer Info This will give you a collapsible tree view of the various supported extensions and OpenGL capabilities of the graphic chip(s) currently available on the OSX system on which it is run. These details can be saved to a text file via the SaveAsText button. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Collabora LibreOffice Vanilla QA on OSX
Le 23/06/2015 20:17, Andras Timar a écrit : Hi all, For the consequences of the build switches, as I understand them, see below : Please find below the build configurations Collabora used: LibreOffice-from-Collabora: --disable-ext-ct2n --disable-ext-google_docs --disable-ext-mariadb-connector --disable-ext-numbertext The above extensions are currently not built by default in master AFAIK or in the default TDF builds. ct2n is an extension to convert a number written as text to digital number display google-docs is the Google Docs extension add-on - this requires Java mariadb-connector is the extension for building a sdbc driver that will allow for native (i.e. internal C++ wrapped around a C connector library, as opposed to calls to a JDBC/ODBC library) connections to a mysql/mariadb database server numbertext is an extension that does the opposite of ct2n ?? --disable-lotuswordpro These are the lwp filters. --disable-lpsolve This is the internal solver code --disable-neon Not sure about this one, but possibly related to network file access ? --disable-opengl No OpenGL support - as I understand, this is/was disabled on Mac master anyway --disable-pdfimport This is the code used to display and edit PDF documents in Writer and Draw, which means that users will not be able to open PDF documents for editing in LibreOffice --disable-postgresql-sdbc This is the postgresql database driver, used to natively connect LO to postgres instances --enable-macosx-retina HiDPI support enabled --enable-mpl-subset No idea what this does --disable-python This switch builds in python support. If it is not present, any and all python-dependent functionality will fail to work - that includes mailmerge, many of the wizards that were rewritten in python (e.g. Fax/Letter template wizards), UNO programming via python, --with-theme=tango Bit surprised not to see the Breeze icon theme here - any particular reason ? --without-help --without-helppack-integration No built-in help, i.e. clicking on the help button or F1 should launch Safari and point to the help wiki --without-java Any and all Java required functionality will not work - this includes a great deal of Base (embedded hsqldb, any and all JDBC driver functionality, Oracle ReportWriter) any and all Java user extensions that people might wish to install, and also some of the remaining wizards that are still written in Java One would hope that a suitably clear explanatory message is given when the user tries to activate any such call to instantiate the JVM, or that the app won't suddenly curl up and die. --without-myspell-dicts I'm not sure what the extent of the effect of this is. My understanding is that the hunspell/myspell dictionaries don't get built with this switch and that by default the Apple spelling correction is used instead ? LibreOffice Vanilla: --enable-extension-integration This enables bundled extension integration in general --disable-online-update Pretty obvious - I'm assuming there is an obligatory update mechanism that needs to be provided when one hosts an app in the AppStore ? --disable-odk --enable-ext-wiki-publisher --enable-report-builder --enable-ext-nlpsolver See above - with these switches on, the corresponding extensions are bundled - note that the report-builder extension requires Java, otherwise it will fail miserably to load and provoke an error message (or worse, the whole app will fail) --enable-symbols This is supposed to provide debugging symbols, although not quite sure how that works without --enable-dbgutil, maybe I have an incomplete understanding --without-java As Andras indicated in his mail, removing the Java switch and including the Report Builder extension is nonsense, it simply won't run, or worse, have other unintended side effects. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Collabora LibreOffice Vanilla QA on OSX
Le 25/06/2015 10:04, Andras Timar a écrit : Hi Andras, Generally, you can read configure.ac for the meaning of build switches. It would eliminate the guesswork. Yes, I tried that too, but the help that one gets from configure.ac is sometimes less than enlightening. AFAIK there are no more Java Wizards in LO 4.3. Why would the app suddenly die without Java? It does not die. Because historically, and certainly in my experience, if a call to Java functionality in LO is going to break somewhere badly, it has often done so on OSX. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Collabora LibreOffice Vanilla QA on OSX
Le 23/06/2015 15:21, Robinson Tryon a écrit : How differently is it built? My understanding is that it's pretty close, but I haven't had a chance to really delve into the details. As we likely will start to see bugs showing up in Bugzilla, it might be good for us to make some notes for QA, just so we can make sure that reports get shuffled-over to the right people who can triage them and then fix them. I don't actually know all of the differences, but for starters, it appears to be built on 4.3.x branch from what I have read elsewhere. I have no idea what other build switches are in there. As an aside, what exactly is the expectation here ? From the Collabora side, I'd expect that Michael and/or Sam Tuke would be good people to answer any questions about their particular goals, etc. Speaking just as a project volunteer, I know that I've gotten inquiries from multiple Mac users in the past couple of years asking about whether we were ever going to make LibreOffice available via this app store, so I think that there is a good potential market for users who like the ease of installation and updates. I didn't wish to give the impression that this was not a good thing. Indeed, if it can attract more Mac users to LibreOffice and thereby spur on Mac-based development, it is almost certainly a good idea. My concern is that the version being provided in the AppStore is apparently in the EOL branch as far as we (in the LO project) are concerned, so people reporting bugs against LibreOffice Vanilla, and there have already been at least 5 reports so far, some of which remain unconfirmed, are using an out of date and EOL version. What's the status of NeoOffice? I haven't heard any news from that front in years. It is still going (just about) - there are still fairly regular updates, which I might add, don't require download of the whole shebam, merely a patch set with an autoinstaller system which gets installed like any other PKG. I don't know whether they have a presence on the AppStore, there was talk of it at one time, but I didn't follow that. It's *possible* that most mac users will gravitate towards an install via a trusted and easy-to-use update mechanism. I know that there's some GSoC work to repurpose the Mozilla updater this summer as well, so perhaps there will be even more choices for mac users soon. This is also probably a good idea, but my concern is that we will be inundated with people who don't understand the difference between our version and Collabora's, especially as they seem to be routed to our bugzilla for filing bugs. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Collabora LibreOffice Vanilla QA on OSX
Hi all, Just a heads up to say that I won't / can't / don't have the time / energy to QA LibreOffice Vanilla for OSX as released by Collabora - I barely have time enough to try and keep the unconfirmed bug count down on OSX, without having to deal with a version that is apparently built differently. As an aside, what exactly is the expectation here ? At the moment, I am trying to understand whether this is going to become a permanent fixture of the landscape, a bit like NeoOffice (to which I donate once a year, but take no interest in the project otherwise), or is it a try out to see if the business model is worth pursuing ? What effect will that have on the TDF build in the long term ? So many questions... ;-) Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] daily dbgutil bibisect: Calc fails since 2015-06-05
Le 11/06/2015 09:58, Lyubomir Yotov a écrit : Hy Lyubo, Hi Terry, I have the same issue with this on FreeBSD 10.1. Have you managed to find a workaround? This is now fixed for me on OSX with current master. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] daily dbgutil bibisect: Calc fails since 2015-06-05
Le 08/06/2015 21:22, Terrence Enger a écrit : Hi Terry, This problem first happens with version of 2015-06-05. Has anybody else seen this? Any suggestions? Steve has seen this on OSX too, and I met the same message when testing mmy own master build from 2 days ago. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] potential MAB5.0
Le 23/05/2015 11:36, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol a écrit : I thought we had stopped making bugs blockers and MABs. Have I misunderstood something ? Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Performance regression of Impress file opening in LO5 OSX
Hi all, Just wanted to make you all aware of tdf #90773, which highlights a fairly severe performance issue when opening an ODP file in LO5 compared to LO44 production release. It would be interesting to have feedback from testers on other OSes, if only to confirm that it is Mac specific. Thanks, Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with Backtrace but Not Reproduced
Le 06/03/2015 16:00, Joel Madero a écrit : There doesn't seem to be a backtrace with bug 89628, or did I miss something ? Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with Backtrace but Not Reproduced
Le 06/03/2015 16:00, Joel Madero a écrit : No backtrace on bug 89844 either ? Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Team: Get ready to rumble with robots! (Android Viewer is here)
Le 22/01/2015 09:34, Robinson Tryon a écrit : in addition to opening a number of different documents, it's prone to crash at times. This latter statement is particularly true. Only to be expected for beta software I suppose. Tested so far on a Sony Experia Z2 phone, Android 4.4. Other than the crashing for no apparent reason, first things I noticed were very poor font kerning with simple presentation PPT files, which I guess kind of defeats the purpose of a reader, as the slides were unreadable as a result ;-) - oh, and then it crashed ;-) Switched back to EuroOffice, WPS, QUickOffice, Powerpoint Preview, life suddently got better ;-) Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Keyword bisected
Le 05/01/2015 17:23, Joel Madero a écrit : I don't bibisect, much less bisect, so although have seen this in a few bug reports, I haven't been inclined to use it ;-) Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] mab4.2 to mab4.3 migration almost over
Le 16/12/2014 13:40, Tommy a écrit : of the original 83 mab4.2 that were open at the time of 4.2.x EOL, 12 turned to be RESOLVED WORKSFORME in the 4.3.x or 4.4.x branch. More of interest to me would be to know how many of the moved MABs are : - more than 1 year old ; - more than 2 years old ; - even older than the above. Shifting MABs is a convenient way of ignoring long-felt problems, sprucing up the QA stats, and a bit like ignoring back pain and hoping it will somehow go away. Not that I have the capability of fixing the issues, mind you, but it sort of takes the bite out of the opensource mantra which swears that bugs get fixed more quickly compared to proprietary closed source projects. The fact of the matter is that longstanding bugs put people off either using the feature at all, hence dissuading them from even testing newer versions for that feature, and/or cause the user to switch to some other software which does do what he/she wants. Then you have lost the user potentially for ever. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] mab4.2 to mab4.3 migration almost over
Le 17/12/2014 18:16, Joel Madero a écrit : Shifting MABs is a convenient way of ignoring long-felt problems, sprucing up the QA stats, and a bit like ignoring back pain and hoping it will somehow go away. I don't think it's a convenient way of ignoring - it's just our workflow and has nothing to do with ignoring anything. Call it my cynical view from my armchair, then, if you will. The older I get, I the more I seem to espouse the philosophy of release when it is ready, rather than release at all costs and be damned. I'm aware of no such mantra. My understanding is that we accept and are transparent about our bugs - vs. closed source projects which hide behind their veil of secrecy. Who is claiming this? Someone on our project? Not on QA - realism is much more prevalent here, and among the devs, for that matter, who are equally pragmatic, afer all they're the ones that fix the code - we all know it is about resources and orioritising them. Evangelism and marketing spring to mind, where this kind of behaviour tends to surface, but certainly on various social media outlets (G+ included) and in non-project related forums where LO was being discussed. Yes - and if the user leaves...well, we accept that there are alternatives (mostly that they'd have to pay for). We shouldn't pretend to our users that at $0 they're going to get a flawless product (hell There is actually more than a fair selection of free office suites available these days : - Pages, Keynote, Numbers on Mac - Google's ubiquitous offering - Softmaker's FreeOffice - WPS Office and no doubt more that I have forgotten or overlooked, and obviously these products will have their own issues, that may or may not be fixed over a given period of time. I'm just not convinced that shifting longstanding bugs constantly from one version to the next is the best way to deal these issues, but as I don't code, nor am I likely to be able within the foreseeable future, it is not my place, nor can it be, within the framework of a project like this, to tell someone to go and fix this and that bug, which always leaves one with a slightly bitter taste in ones mouth ;-) Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Call of Tools - Options - LibreOfficeDev Base - Connections crashes master
Le 05/10/2014 10:20, Thomas Hackert a écrit : Well, I prefer the UserInstallation=$ORIGIN/.. entry, as LO then creates its config folder in /path/to/instdir instead of creating it somewhere in .config. So I just need to rm -rf /path/to instdir instead of running two times rm -rf ... ;) Me too, that $ORIGIN/.. variable is pretty handy for being able to stick the paralle install anywhere you like and then just rm -rf it when you're done testing. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Post Building MySQL connectors for 32 and 64 bit versions for LibreOffice 4.3 in Linux
Le 02/10/2014 16:38, Robert Großkopf a écrit : Hi Robert, place. Not long ago there was a third place for a connector for Mac - couldn't find this connector any more ... I had it removed by the admin as I could no longer build a functional connector for Mac - that has changed for the time being, until one of the devs goes and mucks up the build system again so that it no longer works on Mac. Mac is always second best where these kind of changes are concerned, because most devs work either on Linux or Windows, and don't really much care if some obscure connector code gets broken on OSX. Naturally, all my own humble opinion of course ;-) Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Post Building MySQL connectors for 32 and 64 bit versions for LibreOffice 4.3 in Linux
Le 02/10/2014 17:50, Dan Lewis a écrit : You raise a very good point. The first link was my creation last year for the Linux version. Since then, someone else has created the second link for windows. it would be nice if that person and I could get together to combine all of the mysql native connectors in one location. Does anyone know who that other person and email address are for contact purposes? FWIW, I also have a sourceforge account where I host the versions of the connectors I have built in the past. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Post Building MySQL connectors for 32 and 64 bit versions for LibreOffice 4.3 in Linux
Le 01/10/2014 18:10, Thomas Hackert a écrit : Hi Thomas, Thank you very much :) Just out of interest: After I installed the version from extension.l.o and then wanted to install your *_1.oxt version, the Extension Manager asked me, if I wanted to replace my already installed 1.0.3 with your *_1.oxt version, which he seems to recognise as version 1.0.2 ... :( Is this expected? Otherwise, it This will be normal if the version number within the build hasn't been changed - changing only the bundle file name will not change the internal version name of the extension code, so it will still be a 1.0.2 unless someone bumps it to something different. One would probably have to play around with the XML definition of the version number at build time or in the make script in order for this to happen. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] MySQL native connector for OS X
Le 24/09/2014 04:40, Dan Lewis a écrit : Follow-up question to the second paragraph: Can some one point me in the right direction to build the MySQL native connectors for Linux 32 and 64 bit? I seem to have lost the instructions that Alex provided me with a couple of years ago. (He was a great help to me.) Hi Dan, When building from the LO code base, your autogen.input or autogen.lastrun file should contain the following switches : --enable-ext-mariadb-connector --enable-bundle-mariadb You might also have to add : --with-system-mariadb this last one basically tells the build system to use the OS-provided libmariadb libraries, but that would assume that you have them installed on your system. Without it, the build system should download and install its own libmariadb package. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] MySQL native connector for OS X
Le 24/09/2014 11:45, Dan Lewis a écrit : Preliminary needed programs: 1) apt-cache search gnome-vfs 2) sudo apt-get install libgnome-vfsmm-2.6-dev Building the native connector 1) sudo apt-get install git 2) sudo apt-get build-dep libreoffice some of the above might have changed again, depending on your current Ubuntu version. I seem to recall that build-dep did not install all of the required build environment for me and that I had to add extra stuff. 3) $ git clone git://gerrit.libreoffice.org/core 4) cd core 5) ./autogen.sh --enable-ext-mysql-connector --with-system-mysql see my previous reply these switches have been disabled, use the mariadb enable switches instead 6) make fetch 7) ./g checkout -b libreoffice-4-0 origin/libreoffice-4-0 You might want to set the above to a current version of LO release branch (so 4.2 or 4.3) 8) make dev-install No need for make dev-install any more, a simple make will produce a runnable build, and you should be able to find your OXT within the instdir folder, or alternatively in core/workdir/Extension/. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] MySQL native connector for OS X
Le 22/09/2014 17:59, Dan Lewis a écrit : Hi Dan, Can MySQL be accessed on an Apple computer using a native connector? If so, what is the URL for where it is located? If not, how can it be accessed and the URL for the connector's location? See my answer to you on the users list. A couple of years ago, I made a MySQL native connectors for Linux 32 and 64 bit. Should these be updated? What version should they be made against? Basically, you should build them against the codebase for the same version as you would use in production, otherwise there is no guarantee that they will work with other versions. On the whole, you shouldn't need to worry about minor version differences, i.e. a connector build against the 4.2.1 codebase should also work on any of the 4.2.x range, etc, but YMMV because most devs don't check whether their code changes in other areas of LO affect the building and functioning of the connector. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Media Support in LibreOffice
Le 29/08/2014 18:43, Alexander Thurgood a écrit : Further testing : OSX : 10.9.4 LO : own master build 4.4.0 - no VLC build switch Special conditions : removed libavQuickTimelo.dylib from installed application bundle Loaded my test Impress file containing the inserted video files from bug 79546 : Preview : none of the files display a preview still image Preveiw play : none of the files play anything Full screen - none of the files play either video or sound. Note that not even the MP4 file, which is a recognised container and codec by Apple QuickTime 10.3, displays or plays in the LO master build with the quicktime library removed. Also note that when trying to insert a new media, all of the video container formats except for MOV appear to be greyed out, i.e. unselectable. However, although the MOV format file can be inserted : - it displays no preview on the slide, instead a blank object placeholder is displayed ; - the media controls are not displayed when the object is clicked ; - full screen slideshow displays a blank slide with no sound or video. My conclusion from this is that one can not simply remove the libavquicktimelo.dylib library from the LO application bundle and expect it to fallback to the libAVF library. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Media Support in LibreOffice
Le 29/08/2014 16:19, Robinson Tryon a écrit : Hi Robinson, Thanks -- I've added a section about test media here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Media_Support#Media_for_Tests The comments you attribute to me from IRC were in fact Tor's ;-) I am currently building a new master, and will remove the quicktime AV dylibs and test what is supported and what isn't. I can confirm however that Perian, although it installs, doesn't seem to change anything in the way QuickTime works on OSX 10.9.4. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Media Support in LibreOffice
Le 29/08/2014 16:19, Robinson Tryon a écrit : Tested today in QuickTime 10.3 with Perian installed : AVI (IV4L codec) WMV (WMV3/WMV9, WMA2) OGV (Xiph Theora, VORBIS) None of the above video containers could be read by QuickTime, with or without Perian. Note that Perian over QT appears as a separate menu entry in the Open with... context menu, howver, it doesn't take Perian's app icon, which indicates that it probably isn't registered properly with QT. This would coincide with other reports that Perian doesn't work on OSX 10.9. All of the above can be played back successfully (full video and audio) by both MPlayerX and VLC independently. I would add that from my limited testing, QuickTime 10.3 on OSX 10.9.4 can convert WebM to MOV on the fly, but the audio gets lost in the process. WEBM (VP8 video, Vorbis audio) - converted on fly, no audio MP4 (H264 video, MP4A audio) - full video and audio playback without conversion. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Media Support in LibreOffice
Hi, Le 26/08/2014 21:01, Robinson Tryon a écrit : On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Alexander Thurgood At present, the video codecs for which support was removed by Apple in QuickTime 10.3 are converted on the fly to Apple's current H264 codec. I'm not sure what you mean: Are you suggesting that OS X/QuickTime 10.3 is doing on-the-fly transcoding of some content? Yes, it transcodes files on the fly for the formats and codecs that were previously supported in QT 7. If a user wants read/export support for codecs that were previously supported by Apple, then they can still download QuickTime 7 (for the moment at least, but that'll be pulled soon enough no doubt). If QuickTime 7 is EOL, or is only available on versions of OSX that we are moving away from, then let's ignore that. Yes, ultimately this can't be a long term solution. So Perian still might be an option for some users? That's actually very useful. If Perian is indeed still compatible with modern builds of OS X, then that might be our best option to promote for audio/video playback inside LO. Have you tested that at all? No, I've not tested Perian since OSX 10.4 AFAIK neither installing VLC nor installing MPlayerX will add codec support to QuickTime, correct? Correct, they each load their own codec interpretation libraries. Obviously, if there is no support in QuickTime for the video format you want to play in LO, then you are stuck, because you won't even be able to insert the file, let alone play it back if someone else has given you a file with an unsupported video codec in it. The same goes in general for the audio codec support. To clarify, you're suggesting that one will only be able to insert an audio/video file if the container format is supported by QuickTime, right? Yes. For example, you did a test on OX X 10.9.3 with LO 4.4.0.0 (master) of WebM, and able to insert, preview, and get sound playback. That suggests that your QuickTime (and any added Components) supports - MKV container - Vorbis codec My tests with master 4.4.0 were with my own build on which I used the --enable-vlc switch, and I am assuming it is this that allowed me to have some form of success with those containers. I am waiting for a new build to complete that no longer uses that switch to see whether Michael Meeks' comments on my bug issue alter the results of my tests. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Base 4.3.0.4 has serious problems with forms with subforms within subforms
Le 08/08/2014 20:49, Dan Lewis a écrit : Dan, There are now three bug reports on this particular problem: 81976, 82150 (mine), and 82151 (filed by the person who mentioned the problem in the user list). I have marked mine as a duplicate of 81976. Between the three bug reports, there are three databases which exhibit the problem. How much confirmation is needed? Any idea when this might be fixed? ( 81976 was filed for 4.3.0.0RC). Lionel has already pushed a fix to master for 82151. Alex McMurphy has confirmed from his master build that the fix solves the problem, so your problem might well be fixed. You will need to test with a daily build from yesterday or today. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Anybody got a printer and an envelope
Le 16/07/2014 10:32, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : This might be related to not having the proper printer driver installed, but only the basic windows provided one. Then you get all sorts of funny problems that basically boil down to not being able to use/select envelope sized paper in the printer options (not to mention other printer features, but that them is unrelated to the problem). Or not, in my experience, if they are on OSX, even if they have the correct printer driver. My previous attempts at printing any sort of envelope cause both my Kyocera FS C5150 CDN and Samsung 3175 FX networked laser printers to jam. Retrieving the jammed paper from these beasts is no mean feat given their location in my office. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Anybody got a printer and an envelope
Le 16/07/2014 10:32, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Other than those cited by Jay, it might also be related to any of the other envelope printing bug reports : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=libreoffice%20envelopelist_id=445636 Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] BZ appears to be truncating entries in the detail field
Hi all, Has someone changed something recently in the BZ configuration that drastically limits the capacity of the Detail field in BZ ? If so, why ? I am trying to open a new report for an ODBC problem, and each time my details keep getting truncated. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA for GSoC project
Le 28/05/13 16:15, Cao Cuong Ngo a écrit : Hi, Sounds good. I can test on OSX, Linux 32bit (Ubuntu-based), and possibly WinXP. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Mac OSX QA'ers
Hi all, Just out of interest, who else on here (apart from Roman) can test master/daily builds on OSX ? My problem is that we are not supposed to confirm our own bug findings, but if there are not enough QA'ers on a given OS, what else can we do ? FYI, I have found a new regression in the Database component which is OSX specific. It relates to no longer being able to access the Mac addressbook. On LO 4.0.3 this functionality works fine, when setting up the ODB file, the user gets asked by the system if LO is authorized to access the Mac addressbook. On master builds, access to the addressbook just fails with the usual no sdbc driver message. See bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64528 for more info. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Consistent Time for Meetings
Le 11/04/13 01:42, Joel Madero a écrit : Hi Joel, all, So again, I'm happy to stick with 1300 UTC/GMT if it's best for everyone, if others are open to alternative times here is what I prefer. M/T/W/F - 1400 UTC/GMT (one hour later than currently set) M-F - 1900 - 2000 (start time between this period) I don't feel it is really my place to comment here, since I've never yet attended a QA meeting, but since Petr put me on copy ;-) and I follow the QA list from time to time, I'll chime in just with regard to how this would pan out for me. Unfortunately, none of these times are any good for me personally as they are the times at which my clients tend to ring me the most often :-)) I do understand, however, that finding a suitable time for everyone is not easy, so from my point of view, just go with whatever consensus you can find. If I'm available, I'll try and join in, if not, then not, as per the status quo :-)) Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug 63388: Mail Merge Email
Le 10/04/13 17:50, Dan Lewis a écrit : Hi Dan, I have filed this bug because I can not get LibreOffice to test the settings I enter into Tools Options LibreOffice Writer Main Merge. It freezes everytime. All the information I enter is copied from the Account Settings in Thunderbird. I have verified that the password I entered will open Gmail on the Google website. I use IMAP rather than POP3. Do others have this problem? Is there something special that I am not doing to cause LO to freeze when running this test? I have this problem too, but I thought that it had already been entered as a bug. I've not found a way for the test to complete without freezing LO (and requiring force kill) thus far. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Template Manager - performance issues, and no new folder create function when saving as template ?
Hi all, I was looking through the new (and IMHO visually much improved) Template Manager again and have come across what appears to be a performance hit and a bug, or at the very least, a non-implemented feature. My build uses the extra templates provided by Kami's OxygenOffice extension, so I get to see quite a few extra choices in the Template Manager other than the rather underwhelming selection of presentation templates provided by default. The first thing that I noticed is that when you call up the Template Manager, e.g. via the File Template menu entry, it takes a fairly long time to display the Template Manager dialog, as in more than a minute - this performance hit worries me - the more so because every time you want to save any newly created document as a template, you have to wait the same amount of time for the dialog to display, which is pretty infuriating. The old template manager did not show this lag and was comparably much faster on the same hardware, so for me, this is a fairly important regression. The second thing is that when you want to save a newly created document as a template, the Template Manager dialog is displayed, but I can see no way of creating a new folder to be able to store the template in it, you are forced to use an existing folder or folders. Is this by design, or is the function just not yet visible in the Template Manager dialog ? As this is about to go live with the future release of 4.0, it would be awkward to have yet another performance hit / reduction in functionality compared to the existing tool. Thoughts, comments, appreciated. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Template Manager and Template Previews on Mac OSX
Hi all, In my master build from 26/11/2012, when I open the Template Manager from the StartCenter, I can choose to Preview the templates in my collection by clicking on the appropriate button/toggle switch. This is with the old-style template manager dialog, i.e. not the new fangled UI which looks rather unattractive on OSX (because it is GTK based, hohum, anyway, just my opinion) The very first template to be previewed always shows with toolbars above and below the template preview. If I then move to another template in the list, the toolbars disappear, but it is rather disturbing as it leads the user to think that he/she can alter the template properties from within the preview screen. Can anyone else reproduce this ? Note that it seems specific to OSX, as I can not reproduce the behaviour on Linux (32bit or 64bit). Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Please Triage These (Bugs from 2011)
Le 07/09/12 17:56, Joel Madero a écrit : Hi Joel, There are 12 bugs from 2011 that haven't been triaged. I think they have been kind of ignored because they require certain things (such as Mac or UX input or advanced computer understanding :) ). Could someone(s) please get these done, then at least we're up to 2012 :) If you see one or more that you think you can deal with, please do it and send a reply so we know it's done. Thanks everyone I just dealt with the Mac one, set to NEEDINFO as I can't reproduce. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Base - database - registration
Le 22/08/12 22:56, Jochen a écrit : Hi Jochen, On the German discuss-ML we are currently discussing following questions: If a database-file (odb-file) is opened must this database be registered in LibreOffice? We have observed that some people can´t use a odb-file without registration in LO (LO 3.5.5 and LO 3.6.1; OS: Windows). I encountered the problem to which you are referring on Linux 64bit with Robert's file. However, I had no such problem on Mac OSX. This was why I registered the ODB file with LO on Linux before attempting to open it again. This may have been particular to my setup, or the file in question. Note that on Mac OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.8, Apple's file manager defaults freshly downloaded files passed directly to an app as read-only, under some kind of lame security policy, which forces the user to re-set the write bit by hand or else move the file elsewhere (which seems to automatically reset the read/write bits). However, this doesn't seem to happen on OSX 10.8, and I can't compare with 10.7 because I didn't keep it on my machine for very long. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Insulting comments in bug reports: what should we do?
Hi Roman, Le 18/07/12 18:42, Roman Eisele a écrit : This is a good consideration, too, and implies that the best thing to do may be just to ignore insulting comments completely and to continue with the real work. Maybe this is the best way to proceed for now, but I am not sure; I still worry about what the original bug reporters will think about LibreOffice if the 1st answer they get is insulting ... I suppose one way of countering that risk is to add a comment to the same bug report that comes across as more helpful, whilst disagreeing with the unpleasant or unwarranted comment. That way, the initial poster will see that there is in fact a positive-minded community behind the project (even if we can't help out, ultimately), and the unpleasant/unwarranted commenter will stand corrected - beware of feeding the troll though ;-) Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] RFC Operation Spamzilla
Hi Rainer, Le 23/12/11 08:34, Rainer Bielefeld a écrit : If you want to do the bulk change, you should avoid to change hundreds of Really NEW old bugs to NEEDINFO. I recommend only to modify bugs what are NEW and fulfill some additional criteria (no user with QA-Experience is involved), what leads to this query: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?type1-0-0=notsubstringtype0-1-0=nowordssubstrlist_id=27519field0-1-0=commenterfield0-0-0=commenterquery_based_on=LibO_Unconfirmed_4emailtype1=exactchfieldto=2011-10-17query_format=advancedemailassigned_to1=1chfield=%5BBug%20creation%5Dvalue0-2-0=jeffdchang%40gmail.com%20%20yfjiang%40novell.comchfieldfrom=2010-10-01value0-1-0=andre.schnabel%40gmx.net%20drew%40baseanswers.com%20%20%20maand%40gmx.de%20%20wope%40gmx.com%20%20baur.steven%40googlemail.com%20%20dmx404%40gmail.comvalue1-0-0=CONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWfield0-2-0=commenteremail1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.orgtype0-0-0=nowordssubstrvalue0-0-0=LibreOffice%40bielefeldundbuss.de%20%20%20detective.conan.1412%40gmail.com%20%20iamtester8%40gmail.com%20jbf.faure%40orange.fr%20%20jr%40natural-computing.de%20%20fyvaao%40ya.ru%20%20vitriol_vitriol%40katamail.com%20%20gerard.fargeot%40orange.fr%20%20bugs%40eikota.detype0-2-0=nowordssubstrfield1-0-0=status_whiteb oardproduct=LibreOffice This query returns at least 2 results for which I am the original poster and which you would appear to deem (from the comments made in brackets) that I have no QA experience, so there is an error in there somewhere, unless I have misunderstood what you are saying. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] automated testing of Base
Hi Terry, Le 06/10/11 16:40, Terrence Enger a écrit : I can only speak from my perspective of an enterprise user, and thus possibly biased ;-) Do we have a feeling for what databases are most used for real with Base? Or how they are used? ODBC is still used as an enterprise-wide solution in many places because of its generally good performance, usually much better than the corresponding JDBC drivers especially with regard to OOo/LibO. The whole Java encapsulation thing always had performance issues that ODBC simply did not. That being said, there seem to be far more actively maintained JDBC drivers around these days than ODBC drivers, probably because it fell under the write once/run anywhere (uh-huh) motto that was touted for years with Java development. Or what open bugs are most deserving of attention? Too many to be reasonably approached by one person in a lifetime ;-) Just kidding, but there are quite a few, as with the other modules, and depending on who you ask, they _all_ deserve attention (grin). How much real use is through ODBC as compared to JDBC as compared to built-in drivers? Hmm, like I said, from what I have seen being used in various companies, JDBC would appear to come out tops in usage terms because of its platform/OS agnosticity. The built-in native ones are however highly appreciated because they appear seamless and don't depend on Java...and on the whole their performance rocks, whereas JDBC performance within LO dives rapidly, depending on the release version of Java, the driver itself, and the poor memory management within Base where everything has to be loaded and held in memory until you write out it all back out in the IOstream to the file. I had always implemented ODBC enterprise wide in earlier versions of OOo on Linux because (1) there were no native drivers at the time, and (2) performance was excellent with ODBC, but many ODBC solutions for some db engines are only available for one or two OSes (for example on Mac, it is a rather large PITA no thanks to Apple), which obviously is a serious slug in the chest when you have heterogenous environments. That is why the native cross-platform driver is so appealing :-) Obviously, all of the above just represents my small window on the world of DB connectivity that I've either experienced, implemented or come across in the last 20 years. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New way for non coders to help with calc unit tests
Le 30/09/11 22:37, Markus Mohrhard a écrit : Hi Markus, Thanks for the heads up and the work on preparing the ground and basics for what I hope will be a very useful addition to the unit testing of LibreOffice. Although I'm not much of a Calc user myself, I will have a look at what has been prepared and see if I can add anything useful. Thanks once again to everyone who worked on this. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
