Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-05-21
> > there's apparently some options to disable the .pyc cache files: > See 4e124fd1409af419990bacade74fcf355624243f . --tml ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] make check / dbgutil performance ...
my gut feeling is that the 'has to compile on the notebook that I take aorund the world'-requirement is more one from sponsored developers, while our volunteer contributors often do their compiles at home on a desktop machine ... Exactly the opposite here. I do paid work on my desktop machine(s), and just light mostly unpaid (or at least not paid by customers) hacking at hackfests or conferences (well, the LO one) on my laptop. --tml ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Presentation Video Bug - Need Dev/QA Feedback
For MacOSX I wonder if Tor knows of a basic/built-in video viewer on MacOSX which uses the same route we are using to render video which can be used as an example program to compare against to filter out missing codecs vs libreoffice-side bustate ? No idea. I would just double-click on the video file;) I don't really use video files at all... --tml ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Presentation Video Bug - Need Dev/QA Feedback
The few movie files I have on my Mac are taken with my Canon DSLR, named *.mov, encoded in H.264 I think, and open with QuickTime Player. One of those files was the one I successfully inserted in a Writer doc when I tested the recent Mac patches to avmedia. --tml ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
It's unclear how much harm if any that did to us here ? ;-) OK, not then. --tml ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
+ turn on mergedlibs LTO for Windows - any objections ? (Michael) Jesús already replied about the LTO bit, thanks for reviewing. As for --enable-mergelibs, it doesn't look good. Apparently that has never been tried for Windows? Or at least not recently? The option has a help message which says it works for Linux only. OK, it mentioned Android, too, which was wrong information, so maybe the lack of mention of Windows is also just a mistake, and mergelibs has worked for Windows at some stage? (We do build one single merged library for each Android app (and one single merged executable for each iOS app), but not using the mergelibs mechanism.) Anyway, I tried building on Windows with --enable-mergelibs=all, did not succeed. Build stops when linking the chartcontrollerlo library, no imerged.lib found. And indeed I don't see any *merge*.lib anywhere in workdir or instdir. This once again shows how harmful it is to have tons of configuration options. They don't get tested and bit-rot. Each binary option doubles the number of possible configurations. If some change in how LO is built is good, then we should just do it, unconditionally (on some or all platforms, depending on case), not make it into an option that will bit-rot. --tml ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
This once again shows how harmful it is to have tons of configuration options. And before somebody else replies but you have yourself introduced several 'experimental' configuration options: Sure I need to be re-educated. --tml ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC4 test builds available for smoketesting
yeah! ask them (developers) to give you back your money. I have a fairly complete log, but I cannot find such exchange in libreoffice-dev That sounds exactly as something I would say, so I can volunteer as the culprit here! What do I win, a ban from the channel? --tml ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
+ packaging upgraded python for Mac (Cloph) + Tor has built it, packaging issues pending No I have not (if this means the new python3 directory). It did *seem* that something got built, maybe all of it that should be built, but anyway then the gbuild tried to copy something that wasn't there. I have no idea if what was built, was built correctly, completely etc... This was in a tree that used the newest Xcode (thus Clang). --tml ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)
I'm new to this QA system, but wouldn't it be useful to know when (date/time) this was added? Added where? You need to realise that we use a *distributed* version control system, git, and time stamps are not important, as far as I understand it. Sure, in our case there are central repositories to which all developers push their changes, and from which they pull changes by others. But that is just our convention. And still, time stamps don't necessarily make much sense. All repositories in principle are equal, and there is no hierarchy in a strict sense (except by convention). Would you be interested in the time stamp when a change was committed to the developer's local repository? Or when it was pushed to our central repository? Or when it was pulled from there into the build machine's repository? I am not a git expert at all, but the above is my understanding... that time stamps in git are informational only and can and should not be used to say if something happened before something else, for instance. (Indeed, when you push commits from your local clone, which might be several days old, they just get appended after newer commits already in the remote repo.) Anyway, you can check the git logs at http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/ . It's easy for the master branch where all the code is in a single repository, core. For the 3-4 branch, we use several repositories. The Java 1.7 recognising code we are talking about in this thread in is in the ure repository, http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/ure/?h=libreoffice-3-4 There isn't a 3.4.5 branch yet so I assume this can be tested on the master? Well, master is quite far from the liboreoffice-3-4 branch. The latest Win daily is from Dec 7th so it probably doesn't include that fix? That change has been in master for a long time. --tml ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: minutes of tech. steering call ...)
I'm interest in the time a change was committed to the central repository by a developer But developers don't commit to the central repository. They commit to their local clones of it, and then at some (much) later stage push outstanding commits to the central repository. And then there are feature branches and merges... Fixes applied to the 3.4 branch were added back to the master (I hope). In this case (and usually) it is the other way around: Fixes are done on master, and those deemed good and important are cherry-picked to a stable branch. (Although technically, as we use different repository structure for master and 3-4 (single core vs. a bunch), it isn't a cherry-pick.) --tml ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] Naming builds. Please???
I thought Andras was referring to the single 8 letter/number code added to the Windows install folder name. Where does that come from? No need to know. It is just a random (or not so random) sequence of hex digits. If nothing documents it to have some significance, don't assume it to have any significance. Anyway, even if this was a combination of the GIT IDs it would still be useless as an identification Well, is it claimed anywhere to be useful as an identification? --tml ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
