Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What should I do with a bug, where I got a file to test and can confirm it, but are not allowed to attach the file to the bug?

2014-05-02 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Thomas, *,

On Thursday, May 1, 2014, Thomas Hackert thack...@nexgo.de wrote

 
  Oh, to be clear: Just randomly mailing documents to people is not
  the way to go. Instead up show up on the #libreoffice-dev channel

 sigh ... Maybe I will find the time this weekend, and than I will
 try to join IRC.


No need to sigh - just meant as it is just not nice to just randomly mail
documents to people without asking first. That basically means I expect
you to fix it, no matter how many other things you need to do and that's
just not nice.
IRC just is easiest medium for quick feedback regarding this - you're not
forced to used IRC.



 [discus, disk or something else?]


Ring, CD, but not discus or disk - that is misleading. And write that it is
one with big radius, otherwise the screenshot in the bug doesn't make it
clear what is being talked about.
And no need to rewrite the comment again.


  It depends, how you do define easily done ... ;) They are named
  something like U1.E1.001.odt up to U8.E1.001.odt (not to
  forget a copyright and a copyright file for something else) ...
  :( I would not know an easy way to do this ... :(
 
  for file in *.odt; do cp -f my-one-sample.odt $i; done
 
  i.e. for each file U1 whatever, it copies (and overwrites,
  that's what the -f switch does) a single document, in this case
  my-one-sample.odt. over the file.

 I get an
 quote
 cp: cannot stat 'my-one-sample.odt': No such file or directory
 /quote
 here ... :(


Well - that is the placeholder for the one filename you want to use.
Obviously I have no idea how you name your documents / how the documents in
the example are all called :-)


  but it might just be a drawing shape.
 
  for file in *.odt; do zipgrep  'draw:type=ring' $file
  /dev/null  echo Ringshape in file $file; done

 Again, only an error message:
 quote
 bash: syntax error near unexpected token `'
 /quote


PS: - Just use a blank line - that makes it easier to parse quickly (at
least for me :-)) the lenghty quote isn't necessary.

And yes, it is a copy'n'paste error. the whole commans is meant to be put
on a single line.
And it is meant to be run from the directory where all the odts are -
otherwise the *.odt won't match anything.

for file in *.odt;

means get a list of all files with odt extension and run a loop with it.
For each file you encounter, assign the filename to the variable file

do zipgrep  'draw:type=ring' $file  /dev/null  echo Ringshape in
file $file

means: for each file, run the command zipgrep. Search for the
string 'draw:type=ring' in the file named $file (that is where we reuse
the variable define in the previous part), and discard the output if it
matches (redirect stdout to /dev/null , that is the  /dev/null part.
content.xml has no linebreaks, and when the zipgrep matches, it would pint
a hge line to the terminal that we're not interested in anyway. If
zipgrep did find something, then output the name of the file with the echo
statement.

 means. If the previous command returned without error, then run the
second one.
|| would be the opposite: if the previous command returned with error (in
the case of zipgrep: string wasn't found), then run the second one.
; is the third way: No matter whether previous command was successful or
not, just run the second one anyway.

done

marks the end of the statement that should be repeated. so everything
between the do and done is executed for each file.

... :( First I thought, some kind of cp errors with your commands,
 changed any quotation mark and inverted comma, but this does not
 solve the problem ... :( /me thinks, I should learn a little bit
 more of these Bash internals ... ;)


Wouldn't hurt to know some basic shell-scripting :-))

ciao
Christain
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[Libreoffice-qa] What should I do with a bug, where I got a file to test and can confirm it, but are not allowed to attach the file to the bug?

2014-05-02 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Thomas, *,

On Thursday, May 1, 2014, Thomas Hackert
thack...@nexgo.dejavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','thack...@nexgo.de');
wrote

 
  Oh, to be clear: Just randomly mailing documents to people is not
  the way to go. Instead up show up on the #libreoffice-dev channel

 sigh ... Maybe I will find the time this weekend, and than I will
 try to join IRC.


No need to sigh - just meant as it is just not nice to just randomly mail
documents to people without asking first. That basically means I expect
you to fix it, no matter how many other things you need to do and that's
just not nice.
IRC just is easiest medium for quick feedback regarding this - you're not
forced to used IRC.



 [discus, disk or something else?]


Ring, CD, but not discus or disk - that is misleading. And write that it is
one with big radius, otherwise the screenshot in the bug doesn't make it
clear what is being talked about.
And no need to rewrite the comment again.


  It depends, how you do define easily done ... ;) They are named
  something like U1.E1.001.odt up to U8.E1.001.odt (not to
  forget a copyright and a copyright file for something else) ...
  :( I would not know an easy way to do this ... :(
 
  for file in *.odt; do cp -f my-one-sample.odt $i; done
 
  i.e. for each file U1 whatever, it copies (and overwrites,
  that's what the -f switch does) a single document, in this case
  my-one-sample.odt. over the file.

 I get an
 quote
 cp: cannot stat 'my-one-sample.odt': No such file or directory
 /quote
 here ... :(


Well - that is the placeholder for the one filename you want to use.
Obviously I have no idea how you name your documents / how the documents in
the example are all called :-)


  but it might just be a drawing shape.
 
  for file in *.odt; do zipgrep  'draw:type=ring' $file
  /dev/null  echo Ringshape in file $file; done

 Again, only an error message:
 quote
 bash: syntax error near unexpected token `'
 /quote


PS: - Just use a blank line - that makes it easier to parse quickly (at
least for me :-)) the lenghty quote isn't necessary.

And yes, it is a copy'n'paste error. the whole commans is meant to be put
on a single line.
And it is meant to be run from the directory where all the odts are -
otherwise the *.odt won't match anything.

for file in *.odt;

means get a list of all files with odt extension and run a loop with it.
For each file you encounter, assign the filename to the variable file

do zipgrep  'draw:type=ring' $file  /dev/null  echo Ringshape in
file $file

means: for each file, run the command zipgrep. Search for the
string 'draw:type=ring' in the file named $file (that is where we reuse
the variable define in the previous part), and discard the output if it
matches (redirect stdout to /dev/null , that is the  /dev/null part.
content.xml has no linebreaks, and when the zipgrep matches, it would pint
a hge line to the terminal that we're not interested in anyway. If
zipgrep did find something, then output the name of the file with the echo
statement.

 means. If the previous command returned without error, then run the
second one.
|| would be the opposite: if the previous command returned with error (in
the case of zipgrep: string wasn't found), then run the second one.
; is the third way: No matter whether previous command was successful or
not, just run the second one anyway.

done

marks the end of the statement that should be repeated. so everything
between the do and done is executed for each file.

... :( First I thought, some kind of cp errors with your commands,
 changed any quotation mark and inverted comma, but this does not
 solve the problem ... :( /me thinks, I should learn a little bit
 more of these Bash internals ... ;)


Wouldn't hurt to know some basic shell-scripting :-))

ciao
Christian
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What should I do with a bug, where I got a file to test and can confirm it, but are not allowed to attach the file to the bug?

2014-05-02 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Christian, *,
On Fr, 2. Mai 2014 12:46 Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 On Thursday, May 1, 2014, Thomas Hackert
thack...@nexgo.dejavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','thack...@nexgo.de');
 wrote
[randomly sending documents to devs]
 sigh ... Maybe I will find the time this weekend, and than I will
 try to join IRC.
 
 No need to sigh - just meant as it is just not nice to just
 randomly mail documents to people without asking first. That

I would not mail documents randomly to our devs  ;) I just 
wanted to find out, who of the devs is responsible for the master 
document code to ask him, if it is OK to send it after I have 
explained the problem to him ... ;)

 basically means I expect you to fix it, no matter how many other
 things you need to do and that's just not nice.

He, do you really think, I am that evil ;?

 IRC just is easiest medium for quick feedback regarding this -
 you're not forced to used IRC.

It depends: I remember times during bug hunting parties, where you 
have to wait, until someone ansered there ... :( Then again ... This 
is the same with mail ... ;)

 [discus, disk or something else?]
 
 Ring, CD, but not discus or disk - that is misleading. And write
 that it is one with big radius, otherwise the screenshot in the
 bug doesn't make it clear what is being talked about.
 And no need to rewrite the comment again.

O.K.

[How to find a string in one ODT]
  for file in *.odt; do cp -f my-one-sample.odt $i; done
 
  i.e. for each file U1 whatever, it copies (and overwrites,
  that's what the -f switch does) a single document, in this case
  my-one-sample.odt. over the file.

 I get an
 quote
 cp: cannot stat 'my-one-sample.odt': No such file or directory
 /quote
 here ... :(
 
 Well - that is the placeholder for the one filename you want to
 use. Obviously I have no idea how you name your documents / how
 the documents in the example are all called :-)

But ... I understood this command that way, that it will create my-
one-sample.odt, if it does not exist. And this was my intention :) 
I just copied your example as is to prevent any typos ... ;) Does it 
mean, that I have to create this file beforehand?

  but it might just be a drawing shape.
 
  for file in *.odt; do zipgrep  'draw:type=ring' $file
  /dev/null  echo Ringshape in file $file; done

 Again, only an error message:
 quote
 bash: syntax error near unexpected token `'
 /quote
 
 PS: - Just use a blank line - that makes it easier to parse
 quickly (at least for me :-)) the lenghty quote isn't
 necessary.

O.K.

 And yes, it is a copy'n'paste error. the whole commans is meant to
 be put on a single line.
 And it is meant to be run from the directory where all the odts
 are - otherwise the *.odt won't match anything.

I had run it in the directory with all the odt files ... ;)

 for file in *.odt;
 
 means get a list of all files with odt extension and run a loop
 with it. For each file you encounter, assign the filename to the
 variable file

O.K.

 do zipgrep  'draw:type=ring' $file  /dev/null  echo
 Ringshape in file $file
 
 means: for each file, run the command zipgrep. Search for the
 string 'draw:type=ring' in the file named $file (that is where
 we reuse the variable define in the previous part), and discard
 the output if it matches (redirect stdout to /dev/null , that is
 the  /dev/null part. content.xml has no linebreaks, and when
 the zipgrep matches, it would pint a hge line to the terminal
 that we're not interested in anyway. If zipgrep did find
 something, then output the name of the file with the echo
 statement.

Ah, O.K.

  means. If the previous command returned without error, then run
 the second one.
 || would be the opposite: if the previous command returned with
 || error (in
 the case of zipgrep: string wasn't found), then run the second
 one. ; is the third way: No matter whether previous command was
 successful or not, just run the second one anyway.

O.K.

 done
 
 marks the end of the statement that should be repeated. so
 everything between the do and done is executed for each file.

O.K. Thank you for your crash course with Bash oneliners :)

 ... :( First I thought, some kind of cp errors with your
 commands,
 changed any quotation mark and inverted comma, but this does not
 solve the problem ... :( /me thinks, I should learn a little bit
 more of these Bash internals ... ;)
 
 Wouldn't hurt to know some basic shell-scripting :-))

Sure :) Just need an easy to understand and fast too read guide ... 
;) And one, which is not a shell scripting guide, but only an 
advanced luser guide ... ;)

But still, if I use your example as a oneliner, I get

zipinfo:  cannot find or open , .zip or .ZIP.
/usr/bin/zipgrep: 97: test: -eq: unexpected operator
/usr/bin/zipgrep: 100: test: Illegal number:

as an message ... :( Does this mean, zipgrep does not recognize ODTs 
as zip files? Do I have to either change all file extensions to zip 
instead of odt, or find some kind of file to tell zip(grep), that 

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What should I do with a bug, where I got a file to test and can confirm it, but are not allowed to attach the file to the bug?

2014-05-01 Thread Thomas Hackert
Good morning Christian, *
On Mi, 30. Apr 2014 20:28 Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Thomas Hackert
 thack...@nexgo.de wrote:
 On Mi, 30. Apr 2014 13:38 Christian Lohmaier wrote:

 but then, who is working in the area of master documents? I found
 only Writer (and therefore Michael S.) ... :(
 
 Oh, to be clear: Just randomly mailing documents to people is not
 the way to go. Instead up show up on the #libreoffice-dev channel

sigh ... Maybe I will find the time this weekend, and than I will 
try to join IRC.

 and ping the candidates and ask whether it is OK to mail them the
 documents/whether they know a better contact.

O.K.

 [...]
 I confirm, I should have written this in a more understandable
 manner, sorry ... :( Yes, that were the versions, with which I
 could reproduce the bug.
 
 Yeah, those could have also benefitted from some linebreaks for
 easier quick parsing :-P

O.K. Should I add an additional comment with something like
quote
Just to clarify
1. confirmed with
a. $version
b. $version
$(additional info)
/quote
?

[discus, disk or something else?]
 While you speculate earlier that it is the white bar with the
 black outline, you write ... does not show the discus (or
 maybe better disc?) - I neither see something that looks like a
 floppy disk or harddrive, nor anything round. So what is the bug
 about? I assume the white bar.

 Well, there are also Compact Disk ... ;)
 
 That would be included in round - I didn't expect it to have
 such a large radius that it appears as a bar on first look in that
 screenshot. But from your description now it is clear that it is a
 donut shape, or in technical terms an annulus (Kreisring), or as
 it is called in LO's drawing shapes: Ring :-)
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annulus_(mathematics)

Ah, O.K. Thanks for your info and the link :)

 i.e. first replace all documents with a single one (i.e. copy
 one document and name it like the others) - this is easily done,
 but of course doesn't guarantee that the problem still shows.

 It depends, how you do define easily done ... ;) They are named
 something like U1.E1.001.odt up to U8.E1.001.odt (not to
 forget a copyright and a copyright file for something else) ...
 :( I would not know an easy way to do this ... :(
 
 for file in *.odt; do cp -f my-one-sample.odt $i; done
 
 i.e. for each file U1 whatever, it copies (and overwrites,
 that's what the -f switch does) a single document, in this case
 my-one-sample.odt. over the file.

I get an
quote
cp: cannot stat 'my-one-sample.odt': No such file or directory
/quote
here ... :(

 → all files will be like my-one-sample.odt

O.K.

 but it might just be a drawing shape.
 
 for file in *.odt; do zipgrep  'draw:type=ring' $file
 /dev/null  echo Ringshape in file $file; done

Again, only an error message:
quote
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `'
/quote
... :( First I thought, some kind of cp errors with your commands, 
changed any quotation mark and inverted comma, but this does not 
solve the problem ... :( /me thinks, I should learn a little bit 
more of these Bash internals ... ;)

 Then examine the file in LibreOffice.
 If that doesn't match anything, try to search for more draw shapes
 (draw:custom-shape)

When I find a solution to get these commands ... ;)
Thank you for your answer and have a nice day
Thomas.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What should I do with a bug, where I got a file to test and can confirm it, but are not allowed to attach the file to the bug?

2014-04-30 Thread Florian Reisinger
Hi,

Did you ask him to create a test  document himself?
You were unable to reproduce it without the test doc?
Does it work with plain (or close to) documents and with a reduced number?
If you could not reproduce it without and he does not provide a testcase, it 
might be a bit sharp, but invalid might still be the right. Leaving that aside, 
if it works with the limited set, please attach it and set out to new.
.. Just my thoughts, but you asked for those.
Sorry for TOFU
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Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
Florian Reisinger

On 30. April 2014 08:41:09 MESZ, Jochen Schiffers oo...@jochenschiffers.de 
wrote:
Hi Thomas,

what do you mean: share the documents on our cloud and set a link to
the 
folder?
Or do I misunterstand yor question?

reg

Jochen


Am 29.04.2014 18:59, schrieb Thomas Hackert:
 Hello @ll,
 I stumbled upon bug #77330
 (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77330), when doing a
 little bit QA last weekend. After I added comment #1
 (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77330#c1) and set the
 status to NEEDINFO, the reporter sent me a private mail with an
 attached zipped file, containing the master document and its
 subdocuments. He asked me not to attach it to the bug. Now I am not
 sure, what I should do with this bug ... :( I had searched at
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/FindTheExpert to find out, if I
 could find a dev, to whom I could send this zipped files, but I am
 not sure, if this is right way. As I can partly confirm this bug, I
 have added my comment to the bug
 (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77330#c2). And now? As
 I am not a dev, I will not be able to fix it ... :( The master
 document in question depends on 100 ODT files with pictures and the
 like, so it would be hard to create one master document with that
 amount of ODTs (or better say: I would not have the time for it the
 next months) ... :(

 Thanks for any insights
 Thomas.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What should I do with a bug, where I got a file to test and can confirm it, but are not allowed to attach the file to the bug?

2014-04-30 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Christian, *,
On Mi, 30. Apr 2014 13:38 Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Thomas Hackert
 thack...@nexgo.de wrote:
 I stumbled upon bug #77330
 (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77330),

 I had searched at
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/FindTheExpert to find out, if
 I could find a dev, to whom I could send this zipped files,
 
 This is more or less the only way in such a case, when the sample
 should not be made public for whatever reason.

but then, who is working in the area of master documents? I found 
only Writer (and therefore Michael S.) ... :(

 but I am
 not sure, if this is right way. As I can partly confirm this bug,
 I have added my comment to the bug
 (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77330#c2).
 
 That comment is written in a rather unclear fashion. It misses
 what a) actually refers to. From context one can guess that those
 are the versions that you can reproduce with.

I confirm, I should have written this in a more understandable 
manner, sorry ... :( Yes, that were the versions, with which I could 
reproduce the bug.

 And also still unclear what discus is, as in the crippled
 screenshot I cannot see anything that resembles a disc/round
 object/discus.

I am still not sure, how I should name it, as this discus (as Ton 
has named it) stretches over several sides, so if I look at it, it 
seems to form a disc (like the outer part of an CD). And circle does 
not seem to fit here as well ... :(

 While you speculate earlier that it is the white bar with the
 black outline, you write ... does not show the discus (or maybe
 better disc?) - I neither see something that looks like a floppy
 disk or harddrive, nor anything round. So what is the bug about? I
 assume the white bar.

Well, there are also Compact Disk ... ;) I have looked for a better 
word, but alas was not able to find one ... :( As written above, 
this white (pitch or graduated?) circle on the screenshot spans over 
the following sides, so it seems to form a whole circle. But if you 
use either a larger display and a smaller zoom factor than 50 or 
100%, this effect does not show (that is, what Ton told me). I 
cannot confirm it, as I have only my 10 netbook here ... :(

 And now? As
 I am not a dev, I will not be able to fix it ... :( The master
 document in question depends on 100 ODT files with pictures and
 the like, so it would be hard to create one master document with
 that amount of ODTs (or better say: I would not have the time for
 it the next months) ... :(
 
 The crux is not to create a new set of documents, but to trim down
 the existing ones to show the problem.

O.K.

 i.e. first replace all documents with a single one (i.e. copy one
 document and name it like the others) - this is easily done, but
 of course doesn't guarantee that the problem still shows.

It depends, how you do define easily done ... ;) They are named 
something like U1.E1.001.odt up to U8.E1.001.odt (not to forget 
a copyright and a copyright file for something else) ... :( I would 
not know an easy way to do this ... :(

 But if it does still show, then that does already help a lot.

Hm. Maybe I will have the time the next days, but I cannot give such 
undertaking, sorry ... :(
Thanks for your answer
Thomas.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What should I do with a bug, where I got a file to test and can confirm it, but are not allowed to attach the file to the bug?

2014-04-30 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Jochen, *,
On Mi, 30. Apr 2014 08:41 Jochen Schiffers wrote:
 what do you mean: share the documents on our cloud and set a link
 to the folder?
 Or do I misunterstand yor question?

yes. I am not allowed to give it to the public (= attach to a bug). 
So I think, to put it in the cloud is not a good idea ... :(
Have a nice evening
Thomas
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What should I do with a bug, where I got a file to test and can confirm it, but are not allowed to attach the file to the bug?

2014-04-30 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Thomas, *,

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Thomas Hackert thack...@nexgo.de wrote:
 Hello Christian, *,
 On Mi, 30. Apr 2014 13:38 Christian Lohmaier wrote:

 but then, who is working in the area of master documents? I found
 only Writer (and therefore Michael S.) ... :(

Oh, to be clear: Just randomly mailing documents to people is not the
way to go. Instead up show up on the #libreoffice-dev channel and ping
the candidates and ask whether it is OK to mail them the
documents/whether they know a better contact.

 [...]
 I confirm, I should have written this in a more understandable
 manner, sorry ... :( Yes, that were the versions, with which I could
 reproduce the bug.

Yeah, those could have also benefitted from some linebreaks for easier
quick parsing :-P

 And also still unclear what discus is, as in the crippled
 screenshot I cannot see anything that resembles a disc/round
 object/discus.

 I am still not sure, how I should name it, as this discus (as Ton
 has named it) stretches over several sides, so if I look at it, it
 seems to form a disc (like the outer part of an CD). And circle does
 not seem to fit here as well ... :(

 While you speculate earlier that it is the white bar with the
 black outline, you write ... does not show the discus (or maybe
 better disc?) - I neither see something that looks like a floppy
 disk or harddrive, nor anything round. So what is the bug about? I
 assume the white bar.

 Well, there are also Compact Disk ... ;)

That would be included in round - I didn't expect it to have such a
large radius that it appears as a bar on first look in that
screenshot. But from your description now it is clear that it is a
donut shape, or in technical terms an annulus (Kreisring), or as it
is called in LO's drawing shapes: Ring :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annulus_(mathematics)

 i.e. first replace all documents with a single one (i.e. copy one
 document and name it like the others) - this is easily done, but
 of course doesn't guarantee that the problem still shows.

 It depends, how you do define easily done ... ;) They are named
 something like U1.E1.001.odt up to U8.E1.001.odt (not to forget
 a copyright and a copyright file for something else) ... :( I would
 not know an easy way to do this ... :(

for file in *.odt; do cp -f my-one-sample.odt $i; done

i.e. for each file U1 whatever, it copies (and overwrites, that's
what the -f switch does) a single document, in this case
my-one-sample.odt. over the file.

→ all files will be like my-one-sample.odt

but it might just be a drawing shape.

for file in *.odt; do zipgrep  'draw:type=ring' $file /dev/null
 echo Ringshape in file $file; done

Then examine the file in LibreOffice.
If that doesn't match anything, try to search for more draw shapes
(draw:custom-shape)

ciao
Christian
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