Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BSA Versions - Update
Am 27.06.2013 21:44, schrieb Bjoern Michaelsen: On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:57:44AM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: I have added Bjoern to this as he's the one who might be impacted most because of the Ubuntu issue. Can we maybe make the wording more explicit e.g. reached EOL at TDF(*)? 1) I'd even prefer a positive wording (3.5 Ubuntu or similar) - if something short + appropriate can be found. 2) just another thought: does it matter *why* we list the 3.5? Why not leaving it just 3.5 all versions like the other 3.x Versions? @ Robinson (quoting 27.06.2013, 22:04): Where do we want these bugs to end up? another consideration might be: Do we want offer a platform to a Joe Average bug reporter to report bugs against these versions? (Why?) My suggestion from a QA perspective: We should. At least we should try. If we get overwhelmed with NOTOURBUGs or FIXED in all other versions, we should reconsider. Nino ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] BSA Versions - Update
Hi All, So Robinson has done a great job dealing with the ridiculous list of versions we had on BSA - we had 90+ versions and are now down to 30 and will soon be down to 27. What we did was collapsed 3.3 and 3.4 into all versions (3.3 all versions, 3.4 all versions). These are both way past EOL and we don't expect a lot of people to be using BSA to report bugs against these. Then we removed 3.5 pre releases, *we would also like to collapse 3.5 to 3.5 all versions **as it has also reached EOL.* I needed to emphasize that to make sure people read it. What we know is that Ubuntu 12.04 is still technically on 3.5 (which sucks for this particular clean up) but we'd like to not have so many versions to confuse users. BSA is meant to be simple, 90+ versions was surely confusing, 20+ is better but still a lot. Lastly, we removed 4.0.0 - 4.0.4 pre releases 4.1 alpha/beta releases. I have added Bjoern to this as he's the one who might be impacted most because of the Ubuntu issue. If there are serious objections to collapsing 3.5 as well please let me know as soon as possible as we hope to move forward soon. Best, Joel P.S. This does add a little work for QA because if 3.5 all versions is selected, we'd have to set it on FDO to the correct version. I think the added work will be minimal and the benefit to user experience will be substantial -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BSA Versions - Update
Hi, On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:57:44AM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: I have added Bjoern to this as he's the one who might be impacted most because of the Ubuntu issue. Can we maybe make the wording more explicit e.g. reached EOL at TDF(*)? That makes it easier to dispell urban myths that its not supported elsewhere. Same for RHEL which AFAIK has the endless joy of supporting 3.4 on one of their releases. Best, Bjoern (*) best with the abbreviations spelled out, now that I think of it. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BSA Versions - Update
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:57:44AM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: I have added Bjoern to this as he's the one who might be impacted most because of the Ubuntu issue. Can we maybe make the wording more explicit e.g. reached EOL at TDF(*)? That makes it easier to dispell urban myths that its not supported elsewhere. Same for RHEL which AFAIK has the endless joy of supporting 3.4 on one of their releases. Where would this wording go? I think that's good to let people know but trying to figure out where to put it as the list versions are all pretty short. A tooltip might be useful, any thoughts here Robinson? We were talking about this quite a bit earlier. Best, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BSA Versions - Update
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:57:44AM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: I have added Bjoern to this as he's the one who might be impacted most because of the Ubuntu issue. Can we maybe make the wording more explicit e.g. reached EOL at TDF(*)? That makes it easier to dispell urban myths that its not supported elsewhere. Same for RHEL which AFAIK has the endless joy of supporting 3.4 on one of their releases. Yes, it would be nice to make this part more explicit. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Where would this wording go? I think that's good to let people know but trying to figure out where to put it as the list versions are all pretty short. A tooltip might be useful, any thoughts here Robinson? We were talking about this quite a bit earlier. It's a complicated situation, because Ubuntu/Canonical isn't supporting 3.5 globally, but just for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Similar notes go for 3.4 in RHEL. Here's a good question: Where do we want these bugs to end up? Would we like to see them reported in our infrastructure, or are we more than happy to have them reported to the distros and then upstreamed if (and only if) they are still relevant to a modern release? --R ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
