Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[MiguelAngelLO]

  
  
El 05/12/15 a las 0:38, Robinson Tryon escribió:

  On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Pedro  wrote:

  
Robinson Tryon wrote


  As mentioned previously, we're no longer using Severity: 'blocker' to
mark bugs. Please set those bugs to 'critical' severity.


May I suggest that you migrate all "blockers" to "critical" and remove the
"blocker" option from the list?

  
  We've migrated all open blockers to critical (migrating the
resolved/closed bugs was deemed more disruptive than helpful).
Renaming 'blocker' was proposed and then postponed, as the 'blocker'
label is threaded extensively through the Bugzilla codebase, and
patches to remove it would complicate upgrades. It's possible that we
could remove the option *solely* in the drop-down display when
editing, if that would be considered helpful for new bug reporters.

See docs on Severity field here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Severity#Severity_Levels


  
It is useless, causes confusion/illusion and is a waste of time both to
reporters and triagers.

  
  Ideally, all triagers should be in the 'contributors' Bugzilla group
and should hopefully be aware of current best practices regarding
Severity and Priority. I just made additional updates to the
Prioritization flowchart mentioned in our Bug Triage docs to clarity
the deprecation of 'blocker', reflect the relative position of the
Importance fields (Priority, Severity) in the Bugzilla bug-editing
interface, and change the term 'Wishlist' to 'Enhancement' (to reflect
the actual terms used):
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage#Step_7._Prioritize_Bug

Best,
--R



Ok, clear for me.
Please forgive the noise.

Regards.
Miguel Ángel.
  

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[Pedro]

Robinson Tryon wrote
>> May I suggest that you migrate all "blockers" to "critical" and remove
>> the
>> "blocker" option from the list?
> 
> We've migrated all open blockers to critical (migrating the
> resolved/closed bugs was deemed more disruptive than helpful).
> Renaming 'blocker' was proposed and then postponed, as the 'blocker'
> label is threaded extensively through the Bugzilla codebase, and
> patches to remove it would complicate upgrades. It's possible that we
> could remove the option *solely* in the drop-down display when
> editing, if that would be considered helpful for new bug reporters.

I think that removing it from the drop-down list is helpful. There is no
point in having available options that are deprecated. In this case the
English word "blocker" has a specific meaning and is used in other open
source projects to effectively block a release. Since that doesn't apply in
LibreOffice it should be removed.

Regards,
Pedro



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[Robinson Tryon]

On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:46 AM, Pedro  wrote:
> Robinson Tryon wrote
>>> May I suggest that you migrate all "blockers" to "critical" and remove
>>> the
>>> "blocker" option from the list?
> ...
> I think that removing it from the drop-down list is helpful. There is no
> point in having available options that are deprecated. In this case the
> English word "blocker" has a specific meaning and is used in other open
> source projects to effectively block a release. Since that doesn't apply in
> LibreOffice it should be removed.

Okay, blocker is removed from visibility. I don't expect the change
will have any negative side effects, but please indicate if you see
any weirdness with creating new or updating old bug reports.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[m.a.riosv]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83904
reported by Beluga.

Can someone test, seems for the whole daily builds 5.x and for the whole
LibreOffice drop-down boxes are  broken.

List selection is displayed, but the selection it's not applied neither
change in the box.

If it is, should be changed to blocker, I can only put it as critical.





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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[Regina Henschel]

Hi,

m.a.riosv schrieb:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83904
reported by Beluga.

Can someone test, seems for the whole daily builds 5.x and for the whole
LibreOffice drop-down boxes are  broken.

List selection is displayed, but the selection it's not applied neither
change in the box.

If it is, should be changed to blocker, I can only put it as critical.


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96118

and

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96119

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Regina

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[m.a.riosv]

Hi Regina, thanks for the info.

I think it should be set up as blocker.

Regards
Miguel Ángel.



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[Pedro]

Hola Miguel Angel


m.a.riosv wrote
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83904
> reported by Beluga.
> 
> Can someone test, seems for the whole daily builds 5.x and for the whole
> LibreOffice drop-down boxes are  broken.
> 
> List selection is displayed, but the selection it's not applied neither
> change in the box.
> 
> If it is, should be changed to blocker, I can only put it as critical.

It is a new bug. The bug reported by Beluga is that applying a colour in
branch 4.4 can not be undone.

The bug you just found (and I can confirm at least in version 5.1.0.0beta1
x86)  is that the drop list does not work at all.

There is yet another different problem in branch 5.0 (tested in version
5.0.4.1 x86):  pressing Apply doesn't do anything. So the list works but the
changes are not applied.

Pedro



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[m.a.riosv]

Hi Pedro,

> There is yet another different problem in branch 5.0 (tested in version
> 5.0.4.1 x86):  pressing Apply doesn't do anything. So the list works but
> the
> changes are not applied.

Seems you need to click your selection on the list, to get it applied.

Regards.
Miguel Ángel.



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[Pedro]

Robinson Tryon wrote
> As mentioned previously, we're no longer using Severity: 'blocker' to
> mark bugs. Please set those bugs to 'critical' severity.

May I suggest that you migrate all "blockers" to "critical" and remove the
"blocker" option from the list?

It is useless, causes confusion/illusion and is a waste of time both to
reporters and triagers.



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[Joel Madero]

On 12/04/2015 11:27 AM, m.a.riosv wrote:
>
> I have no rights to do it.
>
> For this I mail in the list, so it can be comment and if it was right set up
> as blocker.
>
> Sounds good the "Ultra-critical", but I don't know if there are already
> enough labels.

You should most definitely have rights. Changing that now. Please verify
that you have the rights now :) Make sure to comment when updating
priority/severity so people know your thought process :)


Best,
Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[Robinson Tryon]

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Joel Madero  wrote:
> On 12/04/2015 11:27 AM, m.a.riosv wrote:
>>
>> I have no rights to do it.
>>
>> For this I mail in the list, so it can be comment and if it was right set up
>> as blocker.

As mentioned previously, we're no longer using Severity: 'blocker' to
mark bugs. Please set those bugs to 'critical' severity.

>> Sounds good the "Ultra-critical", but I don't know if there are already
>> enough labels.
>

I've just been discussing this issue with beluga on IRC. It looks like
the range has been narrowed down to 11/24 - 11/28, but could use
further investigation. If you have a spare moment, please hop onto
#libreoffice-qa and join us.

Thanks,
--R

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[Robinson Tryon]

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Pedro  wrote:
> Robinson Tryon wrote
>> As mentioned previously, we're no longer using Severity: 'blocker' to
>> mark bugs. Please set those bugs to 'critical' severity.
>
> May I suggest that you migrate all "blockers" to "critical" and remove the
> "blocker" option from the list?

We've migrated all open blockers to critical (migrating the
resolved/closed bugs was deemed more disruptive than helpful).
Renaming 'blocker' was proposed and then postponed, as the 'blocker'
label is threaded extensively through the Bugzilla codebase, and
patches to remove it would complicate upgrades. It's possible that we
could remove the option *solely* in the drop-down display when
editing, if that would be considered helpful for new bug reporters.

See docs on Severity field here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Severity#Severity_Levels

> It is useless, causes confusion/illusion and is a waste of time both to
> reporters and triagers.

Ideally, all triagers should be in the 'contributors' Bugzilla group
and should hopefully be aware of current best practices regarding
Severity and Priority. I just made additional updates to the
Prioritization flowchart mentioned in our Bug Triage docs to clarity
the deprecation of 'blocker', reflect the relative position of the
Importance fields (Priority, Severity) in the Bugzilla bug-editing
interface, and change the term 'Wishlist' to 'Enhancement' (to reflect
the actual terms used):
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage#Step_7._Prioritize_Bug

Best,
--R

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[Joel Madero]

On 12/04/2015 08:22 AM, m.a.riosv wrote:
> Hi Regina, thanks for the info.
>
> I think it should be set up as blocker.

Then set it as a blocker :) But recognize that "blocker" literally has
no meaning (we don't block releases). Ultra-Critical may be a better
term. Either as Critical or Blocker I suspect it'll be fixed relatively
fast.


Best,
Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Drop-down boxes are broken for the whole LibreOffice.

[m.a.riosv]

Hi Joel,

El 04/12/15 a las 19:58, Joel Madero escribió: On 12/04/2015 08:22 AM,
m.a.riosv wrote:
>> Hi Regina, thanks for the info.
>>
>> I think it should be set up as blocker.
>
> Then set it as a blocker :) But recognize that "blocker" literally has
> no meaning (we don't block releases). Ultra-Critical may be a better
> term. Either as Critical or Blocker I suspect it'll be fixed relatively
> fast.
>
> Best,
> Joel

I have no rights to do it.

For this I mail in the list, so it can be comment and if it was right set up
as blocker.

Sounds good the "Ultra-critical", but I don't know if there are already
enough labels.

Regards.
Miguel Ángel.



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