Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
Hi Pedro, Am 08.12.2013 16:06, schrieb Pedro: On a separate note, if after installing Language Tool 2.3 you disable Java, you won't be able to start LO again unless you choose to enable it. Choosing No will put LO in an endless recovery loop. in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69153 a described a bug which is at least similar to your observation. Cheers Harald ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
Hi Harald Harald Köster-3 wrote in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69153 a described a bug which is at least similar to your observation. Thank you for the heads up ;) Bug confirmed (as you have already been notified ;) ) Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Grammar-check-does-not-work-when-there-is-no-spellcheck-in-a-document-tp4087188p4087360.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
Hi Thomas Thomas Hackert wrote Hi again, sigh ... It seems, either I expect too unexpected things from LO, or the grammar check is not usable at all ... :( But if I switch my UI settings to en-US, I can write something completely rubbish, and the grammar checker will not find it, if all words are written correctly ... :( You should notice that the message says The spellcheck is complete There is no grammar correction. That is one of the (main?) reasons people prefer MS Word ;) In any case using Word 2003, the final sentence after grammar correction is Does he know that he has wrong? which is much better than Does he known, that he has wrong. but still isn't correct English... So, the answer is B) grammar check is not usable at all only spell checking is performed (which means that the menu option name Spelling and Grammar is misleading) Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Grammar-check-does-not-work-when-there-is-no-spellcheck-in-a-document-tp4087188p4087206.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas Hackert wrote Hi again, sigh ... It seems, either I expect too unexpected things from LO, or the grammar check is not usable at all ... :( But if I switch my UI settings to en-US, I can write something completely rubbish, and the grammar checker will not find it, if all words are written correctly ... :( You should notice that the message says The spellcheck is complete There is no grammar correction. That is one of the (main?) reasons people prefer MS Word ;) In any case using Word 2003, the final sentence after grammar correction is Does he know that he has wrong? which is much better than Does he known, that he has wrong. but still isn't correct English... So, the answer is B) grammar check is not usable at all only spell checking is performed (which means that the menu option name Spelling and Grammar is misleading) The built-in English grammar checker (Lightproof) does not know many rules. It does not mean, that B) grammar check is not usable at all. It works as designed. Spell checkers and grammar checkers are UNO components, so users don't have to use the standard, built-in ones, but it is possible to use alternatives. Examples include Zemberek (Turkish spell checker), Voikko (Finnish spell checker), Duden Korrektor (German), and LanguageTool (grammar checker for many languages). Cheers, Andras ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
Hi, On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Andras Timar wrote: On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Pedro wrote: Thomas Hackert wrote Hi again, sigh ... It seems, either I expect too unexpected things from LO, or the grammar check is not usable at all ... :( But if I switch my UI settings to en-US, I can write something completely rubbish, and the grammar checker will not find it, if all words are written correctly ... :( You should notice that the message says The spellcheck is complete There is no grammar correction. That is one of the (main?) reasons people prefer MS Word ;) In any case using Word 2003, the final sentence after grammar correction is Does he know that he has wrong? which is much better than Does he known, that he has wrong. but still isn't correct English... So, the answer is B) grammar check is not usable at all only spell checking is performed (which means that the menu option name Spelling and Grammar is misleading) The built-in English grammar checker (Lightproof) does not know many rules. It does not mean, that B) grammar check is not usable at all. It works as designed. Spell checkers and grammar checkers are UNO components, so users don't have to use the standard, built-in ones, but it is possible to use alternatives. Examples include Zemberek (Turkish spell checker), Voikko (Finnish spell checker), Duden Korrektor (German), and LanguageTool (grammar checker for many languages). Sample: LibreOfficeDev 4.2.0.0.beta2 / LanguageTool 2.3 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0EPDeSWKu9xN1RnVk5ObW9QcWs/edit Have a nice day - Manfred ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
Hi Andras Andras Timar-3 wrote The built-in English grammar checker (Lightproof) does not know many rules. It does not mean, that B) grammar check is not usable at all. It works as designed. I'm sorry but I couldn't avoid laughing at this... Works as designed? Yes, this is true. It is indeed *usable* but USELESS. Sorry for picking the wrong word. From a functionality point of view this is the same as saying that LO does NOT provide a Grammar checker for en_US. You should get an Extension if you require that Extra feature. This means that the menu option IS misleading. I am aware that the Language tools are not developed by TDF but then to be perfectly honest TDF should not gloat that Writer has all the features you need from a modern, full-featured word processing and desktop publishing tool (I had never noticed the DTP part... LOL) A Grammar checker is a MAJOR feature of a word processor. Again, playing with words, it is indeed *included* except that it is useless... Of course this is not a TDF/LO only problem. Still it is misleading and disappointing... Oh, and Language Tool didn't find any errors on that sentence... Just my 2 cents... -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Grammar-check-does-not-work-when-there-is-no-spellcheck-in-a-document-tp4087188p4087223.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
Hi Manfred Manfred J. Krause wrote Sample: LibreOfficeDev 4.2.0.0.beta2 / LanguageTool 2.3 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0EPDeSWKu9xN1RnVk5ObW9QcWs/edit Interesting. Language Tool 2.3 does find that error using LO 4.2 Beta2 but not when using LO 4.1.4.1... In any case Does he knew, that he has wrong. is incorrect in English... It changed an incorrect tense of the verb with another incorrect tense... On a separate note, if after installing Language Tool 2.3 you disable Java, you won't be able to start LO again unless you choose to enable it. Choosing No will put LO in an endless recovery loop. Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Grammar-check-does-not-work-when-there-is-no-spellcheck-in-a-document-tp4087188p4087225.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
Hello Pedro, *, On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2013 13:17 Pedro wrote: Thomas Hackert wrote sigh ... It seems, either I expect too unexpected things from LO, or the grammar check is not usable at all ... :( But if I switch my UI settings to en-US, I can write something completely rubbish, and the grammar checker will not find it, if all words are written correctly ... :( You should notice that the message says The spellcheck is complete No, because ... When I use LO with a Germanophone UI, open (or create) a text document with grammatical errors in it, I see a yellowish bar (not sure, if a dev would call it that way ... ;) ) with text in it. So there seems to be some kind of (rudimentary?) grammar check inside LO. On my system, there is also a Check grammar field to mark, if I start the spellchecker ... ;) There is no grammar correction. That is one of the (main?) reasons people prefer MS Word ;) Oh, it is on my system :) I get a yellowish question/hint (depending on the type of error, which is found) ... ;) In any case using Word 2003, the final sentence after grammar correction is Does he know that he has wrong? which is much better than Does he known, that he has wrong. but still isn't correct English... O.K. So, the answer is B) grammar check is not usable at all only spell checking is performed (which means that the menu option name Spelling and Grammar is misleading) O.K. Thanks for your answer Thomas. -- If you can't say anything good about someone, sit right here by me. -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
