Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 02:10:27PM +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: why is it necessary to have distribution specific builds for testing? AFAIK Kendy want to get rid of universal builds anyway. http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=rpm-x86_64lang=en-USversion=3.6.0 is there a lack of documentation of how to install this locally without system integration for testing purposes? if so, please tell me where to add documentation :) No, what would be nice though would be dedicated calls for testing through your distros information channels telling people that this is the canonical way to do beta testing for LibreOffice on your distro. Doing a PPA release for me generates a lot of small articles like: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/libreoffice-360-beta-1-released-ubuntu.html calling for testing. Having that from Fedora too would be nice. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 05:50:37PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: Hi all, here are the minutes of todays QA call. community building/communication (Cor?): - beta testers for 3.6.0 beta 1 - 3.6.0 beta 1 available in ppa (Bjoern) - Wheres a good howto? (Florian) - http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/libreoffice-360-beta-1-released-ubuntu.html - best to install in a VM still - unfortunately no ppa stats: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1006323 - so far 16 beta bug reports in the first two weeks (vs. 25 for 3.5) - might just be better quality - we need more beta testers AI:- Are there any Bug Hunting Sessions in the pipe? (Cors) - SUSE will prepare packages for the beta for testing too (Petr) AI: - Could Fedora do this too? (Caolan?) I plan to prepare them during this week. D. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
Hi all, here are the minutes of todays QA call. attending: Florian, Petr, Rainer, Bjoern pending action items: - write update scenario testcase in Litmus/MozTrap (Kendy) - Set Cor up with the Community/Forum maintainers at the distros to better propagate Hackfests, Bug Hunting Sessions etc. RedHat, Debian, Gentoo still missing + - Invite active bugwranglers to next call/QA list, CC Rainer (Bjoern) - merge 3.5 and 3.6 in one big bibisect repo (Bjoern) - recheck and tweak bibisect details (Bjoern) completed action items: - Update/Create active triagers wiki page (Cor/Rainer) dropped - collect further ideas for spending a dedicated resource (Cor/Rainer) mostly finished, BoD request approved - update bugwrangling docs to say CC instead of assign (Rainer) structured manual testing (Yifan/Petr): - no news bug wrangling (Rainer): - Board of Directors approved budget for Bugzilla improvement, pending SPI (Bjoern) - Bugzilla improvements (Rainer) - priorities: performance, OpenID, reporter confirmation, extensions, OpenHatch/MediaWiki, version nagger (Bjoern) - search email improvement a la SUSE bugzilla would be useful (Petr) AI: - research how it is done on SUSE/if there is a ready-to-use-extension for it (Petr) - MediaWiki integration would be useful in general bug now prefixes EasyHack everywhere (Rainer) AI:- Ping cloph if we can make that switchable to say Bug instead of EasyHack when explicitly requested (Bjoern) - bugzilla LibreOffice version format - long thread on the list - conclusion: go with 3.6.0.0.beta1 style(?), starting with 3.6.0.0.beta2 AI:- authoritive close of thread (Rainer/Petr) AI: - adapt script to new version theme (Markus) - localized bug reporting (question via Olivier Hallot) - we could set up a component for that (Rainer) - needs quick and reliable translators - will preduce lots of dupes (Bjoern) - will be problematic if feedback from the reporter is needed (Bjoern) - alternative: defer to the local mailing list and let an english speaker file the bug as proxy automated testing and review (Bjoern/Norbert?): - gerrit/tinderboxes - still has to consider all the consequences (Petr) - 1 day from tag to mirror -- we shouldnt prolong that (Petr) - indeed, gerrit should be a tool to use sensible -- it shouldnt stop inertia. only use it when it makes our life easier. (Bjoern) - dailies should always be build from tip of master, not including patches pending review - lots of conflicting opinions/views about tinderbox capabilities: - we can build and test every commit on linux - tinderbox with l10n has a 12 hour turnaround (that is ~50 commit steps) - Can we switch l10n off? (Florian) - discussion somewhat warped by these different assumptions community building/communication (Cor?): - beta testers for 3.6.0 beta 1 - 3.6.0 beta 1 available in ppa (Bjoern) - Wheres a good howto? (Florian) - http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/libreoffice-360-beta-1-released-ubuntu.html - best to install in a VM still - unfortunately no ppa stats: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1006323 - so far 16 beta bug reports in the first two weeks (vs. 25 for 3.5) - might just be better quality - we need more beta testers AI:- Are there any Bug Hunting Sessions in the pipe? (Cors) - SUSE will prepare packages for the beta for testing too (Petr) AI: - Could Fedora do this too? (Caolan?) - german QA meeting starting half an hour after the call (Florian/Rainer) bibisect for 3.5 release branch and 3.6 master (Bjoern/Korrawit): - no news The next call is on 2012-06-29 1400 UTC. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
AI: - adapt script to new version theme (Markus) done. The manual solution that is currently implemented is now adjusted to the new version scheme. Regards, Markus ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 06:21:07PM +0200, Markus Mohrhard wrote: AI: - adapt script to new version theme (Markus) done. The manual solution that is currently implemented is now adjusted to the new version scheme. lol, you could beat a high frequency trader bot with your latency. Thanks! Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 17:50 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: AI:- Are there any Bug Hunting Sessions in the pipe? (Cors) - SUSE will prepare packages for the beta for testing too (Petr) AI: - Could Fedora do this too? (Caolan?) What we always do for Fedora is build the betas into rawhide i.e. to-be-Fedora-18. So our 3.6 builds will appear there soon. (http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/libreoffice/) We don't build parallel-installable-with-3.5 builds for earlier stable Fedora's or anything like that. In this cycle Fedora 17 will move along the 3.5.X series and Fedora 18/RHEL-7 along 3.6.X. C. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
