Re: [Libreoffice-qa] regression keyword

2016-04-23 Thread Joel Madero 


On 04/22/2016 01:23 PM, Terrence Enger wrote:
> Hello, All,
>
> I was surprised to read in "QA/BugTriage"
>  ...
>
> Use the keyword regression if the previous minor version or
> bugfix release works correctly. Please do not mark older bugs
> as regressions.
>
> Is this restriction to *recent* regressions right?
Whoa...yeah that seems really wrong and not at all what we've been
doing. This goes to show that the wiki still needs a lot of cleanup :-/
Thanks for catching this.


Best,
Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] regression keyword

2016-04-23 Thread Raal 

On 22.4.2016 22:59, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi Terrence,

Terrence Enger wrote on 22-04-16 22:23:


Use the keyword regression if the previous minor version or
bugfix release works correctly. Please do not mark older bugs
as regressions.

Is this restriction to *recent* regressions right?


Thanks for notifying.
To be honest, I've not noticed that before. Or deleted it from my memory
directly after seeing ;)
Such a rule would seem illogic to me too.

Now the wiki says " Fresh regressions are usually pretty annoying for
affected users and easier to fix. Thus they are treated with a higher
priority by the developers. On the other hand, if it takes months or
years to report a regression, it must be in a less used functionality.
People are used to live with it, and thus it is less important. "

Which may partly be true, but not so logic.
- The importance of a bug does not solely depend on the number of people
that are affected.
- Nor is it impossible that a bug (regression) is discovered or reported
late, since not all features are used by all and some user-types tend to
start with newer versions relatively late.
- Nevertheless, it is of course expected that regressions with
wide/major impact are reported soon.
- Still I would suggest to use the keyword always and let developers
decide on when to act, or not.
Apart from that, the keyword is used for statistics and it's
questionable to influence those by debatable rules ;)

Makes sense?
Cor




+1 from me for change wiki. Regressions are pretty annoying, no matter 
how old are they.




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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] regression keyword

2016-04-22 Thread Cor Nouws 
Cor Nouws wrote on 22-04-16 22:59:

> Now the wiki says " Fresh regressions are usually pretty annoying for
> ...

Was added back in 2012 by Peter Mladek.
Better update that?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] regression keyword

2016-04-22 Thread Cor Nouws 
Hi Terrence,

Terrence Enger wrote on 22-04-16 22:23:

> Use the keyword regression if the previous minor version or
> bugfix release works correctly. Please do not mark older bugs
> as regressions.
> 
> Is this restriction to *recent* regressions right?

Thanks for notifying.
To be honest, I've not noticed that before. Or deleted it from my memory
directly after seeing ;)
Such a rule would seem illogic to me too.

Now the wiki says " Fresh regressions are usually pretty annoying for
affected users and easier to fix. Thus they are treated with a higher
priority by the developers. On the other hand, if it takes months or
years to report a regression, it must be in a less used functionality.
People are used to live with it, and thus it is less important. "

Which may partly be true, but not so logic.
- The importance of a bug does not solely depend on the number of people
that are affected.
- Nor is it impossible that a bug (regression) is discovered or reported
late, since not all features are used by all and some user-types tend to
start with newer versions relatively late.
- Nevertheless, it is of course expected that regressions with
wide/major impact are reported soon.
- Still I would suggest to use the keyword always and let developers
decide on when to act, or not.
Apart from that, the keyword is used for statistics and it's
questionable to influence those by debatable rules ;)

Makes sense?
Cor


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