Re: [tdf-internal] ESC meeting minutes: 2024-04-04

2024-04-05 Thread Michael Meeks 

Hi Eyal,

On 04/04/2024 22:37, Eyal Rozenberg wrote:

Shame on the BoD - current and previous - for carrying out the entire
hiring process for a RTL/CTL/CJK develop while completely shutting out


	I've no real insight into the process and was not involved, but I've 
interviewed and hired a very large set of developers. That is a 
thankless, and really tricky thing - saying 'no' to many hopeful 
applicants while selecting one is just really hard.


	So from my perspective a big thank-you is due to everyone who did the 
tough job of coming up with a decision here - both staff and board - 
rock on ! =)


	To me it was never entirely clear what you hoped to gain by trying to 
insert tens more people into that process ? Was there some specific 
thing that could be improved in the job spec. Surely that could have 
been included.


	My vague recollection was that Khaled was involved in interviewing 
which if correct would be awesome and anchor the process in a place of 
raw competence :-)


	Getting the right mix of skills into the project to work on a topic 
like this is an extremely tricky job, that needs to be done fairly, 
while keeping lots of information confidential, and needs to be done at 
pace - otherwise people are not on the market by the time you make the 
decision.


	I would suggest that the best approach is to celebrate having someone 
in post again for this role, to welcome Jonathan, to support getting him 
up-to-speed, and to adopt a winsome approach to helping out making his 
life as easy and effective as possible. I would also want to encourage 
all those who were involved in "doing something", and then if absolutely 
necessary frame any constructive suggestions for how to improve hiring 
in the future in a more friendly way.


	For my part - welcome Jonathan ! :-) looking forward to seeing the 
impact you'll make :-)


Regards,

Michael.

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Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2024-04-04

2024-04-04 Thread Eyal Rozenberg 

Shame on the BoD - current and previous - for carrying out the entire
hiring process for a RTL/CTL/CJK develop while completely shutting out
(*) the RTL language community, for the second time, despite the
explicit protest and demand not to do so.

And it is unfortunate that the ESC acknowledges this having occurred
without even hinting at an obligation to consult with the relevant
language communities/groups.

Eyal

(*) - I'm making the assumption that this was not discussed on the Farsi
Telegram channel, which I do not follow; otherwise it's "shutting out a
significant part of the RTL language community." Also, I would not be
surprised if the CJK community wasn't involved either.


On 04/04/2024 17:35, Miklos Vajna wrote:

* Present:
     + Cloph, Hossein, Michael W, Olivier, Caolan, Ilmari, Jonathan,
Michael S, Stephan, Xisco, Miklos, Heiko, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6: 7.6.7 RC1 week 16
     + 24.2: 24.2.3 RC1 week 15

* Welcome Jonathan Clark

     - New RTL/CTL/CJK developer

     - working for TDF

     - reviewing bug backlog currently

     - preferred IRC nick? :-) (Xisco)

   - jclark or so

ESC meeting minutes: 2024-04-04

2024-04-04 Thread Miklos Vajna 

* Present:
+ Cloph, Hossein, Michael W, Olivier, Caolan, Ilmari, Jonathan, Michael S, 
Stephan, Xisco, Miklos, Heiko, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6: 7.6.7 RC1 week 16
+ 24.2: 24.2.3 RC1 week 15

* Welcome Jonathan Clark

- New RTL/CTL/CJK developer

- working for TDF

- reviewing bug backlog currently

- preferred IRC nick? :-) (Xisco)

  - jclark or so


* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
   + Some CSS fixes (JJ)
+ Helpcontents2
   + Fixes and updates (D. MAddern)
   + Housekeeping some "D'oh! you found a bug" (ohallot)
   + Updates on hyphenation pages ( L. Nemetz)
+ Guides
   + WIP
   + xml:id 
(https://docs.oasis-open.org/office/OpenDocument/v1.3/os/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.3-os-part3-schema.html#__RefHeading__1419430_253892949)
  + Is it implemented/used in LO?
  + It's implement in Writer, but only for a fraction of the elements 
allowed by the schema (Michael S)
  + should work for  and other metadata-related ones
  + see 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DevGuide/OfficeDev/RDF_metadata#RDF_metadata
  + bottom of the page has the details, can generate an ID using the 
API / by a macro
  + would be helpful for translation as well (Olivier)
  + also on the TDF wiki these days (Thorsten)
+ API website looks outdated, it's on 7.4 (Olivier)
  + https://api.libreoffice.org/
AI: Cloph to update this

+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
269(269) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month3 months   12 months
   created  8(-4)52(-9) 88(3) 229(-2)
 commented 15(0)102(-15)   242(3) 893(-2)
  resolved  1(-6)20(-6) 38(-2)117(-4)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Pierre F made 30 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
  Olivier Hallot made 29 changes in 1 month, and 260 changes in 1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 18 changes in 1 month, and 262 changes in 1 year
  Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 17 changes in 1 month, and 23 changes in 
1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 14 changes in 1 month, and 92 changes in 1 
year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 14 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 
year
  Heiko Tietze made 13 changes in 1 month, and 94 changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 12 changes in 1 month, and 67 changes in 1 year
  *UNKNOWN* made 11 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
  Dione Maddern made 10 changes in 1 month, and 21 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
246(246) (topicUI) bugs open, 41(41) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months   12 months
 added  4(-5) 18(-1) 20(0)   30(-1)
 commented 50(-41)   265(-10)   536(37)2029(18)
   removed  1(1)   1(1)   1(1)   13(0)
  resolved  8(1)  28(3)  80(5)  313(3)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Stéphane Guillou made 112 changes in 1 month, and 665 changes in 1 
year
  Heiko Tietze made 95 changes in 1 month, and 1153 changes in 1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 59 changes in 1 month, and 287 changes in 1 
year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 29 changes in 1 month, and 170 changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 25 changes in 1 month, and 118 changes in 1 year
  Justin Luth made 18 changes in 1 month, and 140 changes in 1 year
  Patrick Luby made 17 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
  Devansh Varshney made 16 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 1 year
  Ady made 12 changes in 1 month, and 134 changes in 1 year
  m.a.riosv made 12 changes in 1 month, and 62 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 160505] Implement "recency" navigation for Calc module and make 
available
   from TB or Sidebar Navigator
+ [Bug 160249] Support marking text as having an arbitrary language
+ [Bug 160452] Calc: default anchor everything to CELL
+ [Bug 160447] styles: allow us to copy, clone styles, plz
+ [Bug 160441] F11 Stylist deck -- provide a user's "favorite" style 
grouping for
   each style category
+ [Bug 160445] change default of Settings > Application Colors > Custom Colors 
>
   Automatic from "Light" to "System Theme"
  + https://fosstodon.org/@libodesign/112201034714884916
+ [Bug 160442] export "style sheets" and import them -- a long way to go 
yet,
   isn't it?
+ [Bug 160411] Support an "XY+Value" scatter plot chart type
+ [Bug 160350] Replies to comment are in reverse order
+ [Bug 160349] Add toolbar icons to change UI and scheme to switch 
Light/Dark
+ [Bug 160324] Column resize handle touch-target too