Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-12-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Samuel, all, Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote (30-11-13 15:17) finally it's time to decide how to proceed. I created a poll with (hopefully) all suggestions mentioned in this thread and ask everyone to share their opinion there: http://doodle.com/pcbb859qgnapxz33 If an option is missing, please let

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-12-02 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt
Hi Cor, the three buttons which were below the scrollbar would now be in the search bar in the default toolbar size (horizontally aligned). Seems that's an option most people would agree on. I'll let the poll there until Tuesday, 3rd Dezember evening, then I'll close it. So if someone still

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-12-01 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi Samuel, Le 30/11/2013 15:17, Samuel Mehrbrodt a écrit : Hi, finally it's time to decide how to proceed. I created a poll with (hopefully) all suggestions mentioned in this thread and ask everyone to share their opinion there: http://doodle.com/pcbb859qgnapxz33 If an option is missing,

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-12-01 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt
Ok, I've added that option to the poll. Those who have already entered their choice should update it. Thanks Samuel Am 01.12.2013 11:53, schrieb Jean-Baptiste Faure: Hi Samuel, Le 30/11/2013 15:17, Samuel Mehrbrodt a écrit : Hi, finally it's time to decide how to proceed. I created a poll

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-30 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt
Hi, finally it's time to decide how to proceed. I created a poll with (hopefully) all suggestions mentioned in this thread and ask everyone to share their opinion there: http://doodle.com/pcbb859qgnapxz33 If an option is missing, please let me know. Thanks Samuel Am 14.11.2013 13:02,

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-29 Thread Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Hi Adolfo, When I read this, I get confused because I read two different subjects. You refer to the unreadable sheet tabs in Calc, that are caused by them being displayed way to small (the whole deviding of the stuff in the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Bjoern, bjoern wrote (22-11-13 16:22) On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 01:02:03PM +0100, bjoern wrote: Could you guys form a good consensus on if that should be done in the first The solution does not have to be perfect, but it needs to be consistly communicated as a consensus to the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Samuel, *, Since there is a wide variety of ideas how to act, I decided to look at the roots of this dicsussion. And IMO - but pls correct me if I'm wrong - that is in these issues: Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote (15-11-13 09:30) The scrollbar is something which height/width depends on the OS

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote (23-11-13 17:22) Both bugs (tiny navigation buttons and tiny sheet tabs) have the same root cause: they’re placed on (and depend on the size of) scrollbars. That’s why I mentioned those tabs. Ah, ok that makes sense of course. But still does not make the tabs

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-22 Thread bjoern
Hi, On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 01:02:03PM +0100, bjoern wrote: there is a patch to remove the navigator from the scrollbar: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/6045/ Could you guys form a good consensus on if that should be done in the first place or not, as that patch is block on that right

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-15 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt
Hi, I created that patch, so let me also share my opinion. The scrollbar is something which height/width depends on the OS and visual theme used. So there are issues where the scrollbar is too small and the widgets are displayed wrongly [1]. Of course there is a use case for the Navigation

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-14 Thread bjoern
Hi guys, there is a patch to remove the navigator from the scrollbar: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/6045/ Could you guys form a good consensus on if that should be done in the first place or not, as that patch is block on that right now. Needs to be clarified best before 4.2 branchoff.

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-14 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, So, first of all, the button isn't for the Navigator, but rather for the Navigation feature, which is also a part of the Navigator's toolbar. Given the range of scrollbar sizes, rendering the buttons completely unusable in some cases [1], I would definitely vote for removing these buttons

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-14 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Ahmad, Ahmad Hussein Al-Harthi schrieb: In the first place, does it work? Because it doesn't for me! when I click on it I get the floating widget and when I click on any icon on that widget nothing happens!! I think, if it does work, we should leave it or improve it.. It works as it

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-14 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi, Le 14/11/2013 17:10, Mirek M. a écrit : I would definitely vote for removing these buttons from the scrollbar. I wouldn't. Many people use it without using the Navigator (yes, they are wrong but that's life :) If we get a number of complaints about the feature being available only from

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-14 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi, Le 14/11/2013 13:02, bjoern a écrit : Hi guys, there is a patch to remove the navigator from the scrollbar: Gnome syndrome ? ;-) Too enthusiastic (and erroneous) application of Occam's razor methodology ? ;-) Why to keep this navigation feature there ? In the scrollbar, you always have

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-14 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi Mirek, Le 14/11/2013 22:45, Mirek M. a écrit : On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net mailto:jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net wrote: Hi, Le 14/11/2013 17:10, Mirek M. a écrit : I would definitely vote for

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove the Navigator button below the scrollbar in Writer

2013-11-14 Thread pierre-yves samyn
Hello I usually use this feature - To quickly change the type of navigation - To navigate The buttons are still accessible (vs. the browser that is not always visible) They are well located: it is logical for me to have them close to the vertical scrollbar (scroll through the document in that