[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128555] UI: "Remove hyperlink" is missing in context menu for selected text

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128555

--- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #9)
> This is how it already works in 6.3.3.2

(In reply to Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) from comment #10)
> Did you check with the document from the bug report

I see, there is no "Remove Hyperlink" in this document unless you add one.
Rather than hiding I would just disable the command. However, even with
hyperlink it's not possible to run the command with cursor on a different
position, making the multiselection impossible (add http://www.libreoffice.org
somewhere and select the full paragraph).

Interesting issue: Tested first with Calc (6.4) and while removing a single
hyperlink works well it cuts the text on multiselection. Different topic?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128555] UI: "Remove hyperlink" is missing in context menu for selected text

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128555

--- Comment #10 from Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #9)
> This is how it already works in 6.3.3.2  If there is one (or more) hyperlink
> in the selected text, then "Remove hyperlink" is shown.  If there is no
> hyperlink in the selected text (even if it is All text), then "Remove
> hyperlink" is not shown.  (so no problem like reported in bug #120734)

Did you check with the document from the bug report (attachment 145862)?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128555] UI: "Remove hyperlink" is missing in context menu for selected text

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128555

--- Comment #9 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8)
> Another solution is to check whether the text contains a link
> and enable the command respectively. Doubt it's worth the effort.

This is how it already works in 6.3.3.2  If there is one (or more) hyperlink in
the selected text, then "Remove hyperlink" is shown.  If there is no hyperlink
in the selected text (even if it is All text), then "Remove hyperlink" is not
shown.  (so no problem like reported in bug #120734)

As for "Paste unformatted".  (Sounds like a good solution -- if one knew about
this command in advance.  I didn't.)  But also sometimes, you may want to copy
everything over, and then later decide to remove some, but not all the
hyperlinks.  That would not be possible with the "Paste unformatted" solution.

Maybe the original bug reporter also has some good (or better) examples?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 62851] UI: Shapes without name cannot be selected via Navigator

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62851

Jean-Baptiste Faure  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|enhancement |normal

--- Comment #14 from Jean-Baptiste Faure  ---
From comment #13, changed from enhancement to normal.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127892] Calc sheet tabs: Option to make compact (use smaller font and less padding like in <=6.2)

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127892

--- Comment #13 from Libomark  ---
I am using the default look with no themes; small icons Karasa Jaga, running
6.3.2.2 (x64) under vanilla Win 7 Pro (not Aero).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127892] Calc sheet tabs: Option to make compact (use smaller font and less padding like in <=6.2)

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127892

--- Comment #12 from Libomark  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> This change was done to solve bug 124572 and well appreciated. The font
> should be UI default and padding gives room for icons. Don't think we should
> clutter the options with a "compact view".

Padding does not give space for icons as a feature.  If you look at my
attachment above, you will see that the space between tabs "X" and "Y" is
narrow.  If I protect tab "Y", the width of the "Y" tab increases from 7.7mm to
13.9mm.  The protect icon is rather fat (and even looks rude!), and space is
also added to the right side of "Y".

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127892] Calc sheet tabs: Option to make compact (use smaller font and less padding like in <=6.2)

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127892

--- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Created attachment 155593
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=155593=edit
Screenshot with LibO 6.2

(In reply to Libomark from comment #10)
> Created attachment 155592 [details]

That looks weird. Much less margins with 6.3 and 6.4 here, tested with gen,
gtk3, and kde. What OS/DE are you running and what theme have you enabled?

I made the screenshot with 6.2.8.2 (same result with master/6.4) under
Linux/KDE using Emacs theme for Gtk3 apps; started the application per
SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk3 /usr/bin/soffice

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128282] restart manually numbering of numbered lists

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128282

--- Comment #17 from Dieter Praas  ---
Created attachment 155591
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=155591=edit
Screenshot of Bullet and Numbering context menu in LO 6.4

(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #16)
> That already is available in LibreOffice .. ?!

No. (see screenshot)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127892] Calc sheet tabs: Option to make compact (use smaller font and less padding like in <=6.2)

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127892

--- Comment #10 from Libomark  ---
Created attachment 155592
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=155592=edit
6.3 sheet tab spacing

I have uploaded an image that shows my eyeballed estimated of tab spacing white
spaces, based on a few of the tabs from the well-known BP World Energy Data
resource.  Altogether there is over 11 cm of whitespace in displaying 9 tabs,
with bigger spaces for tabs with longer names.  This includes additional space
lost at the left side of the screen through the larger icons.  

Pedro may like to know I was working on this when his latest comment was
posted.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128344] clone-brush needs more functions

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128344

Cor Nouws  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl

--- Comment #4 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #3)
> (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> > Another idea is to have a
> > menu with two functions (and the default as today), like for New, Open, 
> > Save. 
> I prefer this idea. The solution with tooltip is not precise enough (only
> paragraph style? also paragraph style?). I think, we can't put all
> possibilities into the tooltip.
+1

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128351] TABLE-PROPERTIES: Add "Row" tab

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128351

Cor Nouws  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl
Version|6.0.7.3 release |Inherited From OOo

--- Comment #2 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #1)
> Personally I think users would expect a row tab if there is a column tab,
> but it's not so important.
Similar thoughts here

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128282] restart manually numbering of numbered lists

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128282

Cor Nouws  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl

--- Comment #16 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #14)
> (In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #11)
> > So not a bug, but perhaps the need for at least a little improvement to make
> > numbering more user friendly. I suppose an easy way could be to add "Restart
> > Numbering" to paragraph context menu.
> 
> What about this idea, Heiko?
That already is available in LibreOffice .. ?!

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127892] Calc sheet tabs: Option to make compact (use smaller font and less padding like in <=6.2)

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127892

Cor Nouws  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl

--- Comment #9 from Cor Nouws  ---
About how few pixes is this?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128469

Cor Nouws  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|6.2.7.1 release |Inherited From OOo
 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl

--- Comment #5 from Cor Nouws  ---
IIRC, this has been discussed. Or the HELP for the buttons has been improved
recently... In any case: good that you support the idea of better wording /
popup, John.
Removing honestly is no option..

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127892] Calc sheet tabs: Option to make compact (use smaller font and less padding like in <=6.2)

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127892

--- Comment #8 from Pedro  ---
> It really seems to be the height of arrogance to suggest that code which
> already exists should be denied to the many users who appreciate what it
> offers.  All we need is the option to use it.

Instead of name calling you could probably provide attachments to document your
complaints so that they can be addressed.
I provided attachments to back up my position. You did not.
Arrogant would be if I came here name-calling or insinuating something about
your character without providing any useful that could be acted upon.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128626] STATUSBAR: Wrong page number after page break with renumbering

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128626

Dieter Praas  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11
   ||7231

--- Comment #4 from Dieter Praas  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> (In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #2)
> > This behaviour was discussed in a previous bug, but I couldn't find it.
> 
> Bug 117231?

Yes

Vito, if you change to book view, you see the blank page. Please also read the
informations there about how to deal with page breaks.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 117231] There is no way to suppress Writer inserting blank pages to make page No. 1 a right-hand page (Formatting)

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117231

Dieter Praas  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12
   ||8626

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127892] Calc sheet tabs: Option to make compact (use smaller font and less padding like in <=6.2)

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127892

--- Comment #7 from Libomark  ---
As soon as you give a sheet a useful name in 6.3 additional spaces are inserted
around it and the tab takes up more horizontal space.  Those who use large
numbers of sheets will find that the number of tabs they can access is reduced
by the added character padding, with more tabs lost the shorter the names they
devise.  There is also no question that there is more vertical space taken up
by the new regime.  It is quite wrong to compare a default presentation with
assumptions about how users employ font size, row height and zoom and
toolbars/icon fonts to optimise the display of their sheets. 

It really seems to be the height of arrogance to suggest that code which
already exists should be denied to the many users who appreciate what it
offers.  All we need is the option to use it.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128626] STATUSBAR: Wrong page number after page break with renumbering

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128626

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #2)
> This behaviour was discussed in a previous bug, but I couldn't find it.

Bug 117231?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128421] TABLE: Don't draw the top and bottom border of the row that breaks across pages

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128421

--- Comment #10 from Miklos Vajna  ---
Not optimal, optional, sorry.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128555] UI: "Remove hyperlink" is missing in context menu for selected text

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128555

--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Reverting the patch reintroduce the confusion reported in bug 120734. At least
we should rename the command to "Remove hyperlink(s)" or "Clear hyperlinks".
Another solution is to check whether the text contains a link and enable the
command respectively. Doubt it's worth the effort.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128421] TABLE: Don't draw the top and bottom border of the row that breaks across pages

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128421

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to John from comment #7)
> I understand the words, but I don't understand the question itself...

Sorry, I've put two ideas in one sentence. 

First, the (inner) border needs to enabled to show up in the document. If you
format the table without, there wouldn't be any problems.

Second, the question is what you expect when you print the test document. Is
the border at the bottom of the page visible or do you expect the same as
requested here.

And finally I mentioned that MSO does the same. We have to make sure the round
trip (save to docx, load in different app, etc.) doesn't break the document.
Could be done by formatting this particular cell border - but I see this as a
major show stopper.

Miklos, what's your opinion?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128555] UI: "Remove hyperlink" is missing in context menu for selected text

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128555

--- Comment #7 from Xisco Faulí  ---
(In reply to Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) from comment #6)
> (In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #5)
> > Copy and paste a paragraph (or more) from Wikipedia.
> > (it will most likely have many hyperlinks.)
> > 
> > In 6.3.3.2 it is possible to select part or all of this copied text to
> > remove all the selected hyperlinks (at one go).  This is practical when one
> > wants to have the text from Wikipedia, but does not want all the hyperlinks
> > (because of formatting, etc.)  (Same kind of situation with other webpages.)
> 
> Can't you use the "paste unformatted" feature for this?

+1. That's what I would do in order to avoid future problems with styles,
hyperlinks, etc...

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128555] UI: "Remove hyperlink" is missing in context menu for selected text

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128555

--- Comment #6 from Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #5)
> Copy and paste a paragraph (or more) from Wikipedia.
> (it will most likely have many hyperlinks.)
> 
> In 6.3.3.2 it is possible to select part or all of this copied text to
> remove all the selected hyperlinks (at one go).  This is practical when one
> wants to have the text from Wikipedia, but does not want all the hyperlinks
> (because of formatting, etc.)  (Same kind of situation with other webpages.)

Can't you use the "paste unformatted" feature for this?

Anyway, I guess I will probably just revert the patch causing this.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128555] UI: "Remove hyperlink" is missing in context menu for selected text

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128555

Dieter Praas  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128555] UI: "Remove hyperlink" is missing in context menu for selected text

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128555

sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|1   |0
 Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED

--- Comment #5 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) from comment #4)
> is there any specific use case where this is needed?

Copy and paste a paragraph (or more) from Wikipedia.
(it will most likely have many hyperlinks.)

In 6.3.3.2 it is possible to select part or all of this copied text to remove
all the selected hyperlinks (at one go).  This is practical when one wants to
have the text from Wikipedia, but does not want all the hyperlinks (because of
formatting, etc.)  (Same kind of situation with other webpages.)

With 6.4.0.0 -- it is necessary to take them one at a time.

Additional information.  6.3.3.2 does not have tdf#120734.  That is, the
"remove hyperlink" command is only shown when the selected text includes one
(or more) hyperlink(s).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128626] STATUSBAR: Wrong page number after page break with renumbering

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128626

Xisco Faulí  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128555] UI: "Remove hyperlink" is missing in context menu for selected text

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128555

Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
 Status|NEW |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #4 from Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  ---
Hm the remove hyperlink now does what it's supposed to do: It removes the
hyperlink under the cursor.

Why should a user expect the "Remove hyperlink" function to work when selecting
any amount of text (which might include hyperlinks) - is there any specific use
case where this is needed?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128421] TABLE: Don't draw the top and bottom border of the row that breaks across pages

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128421

--- Comment #7 from John  ---
> How would you expect a table with inner border to be printed? With or without 
> border at the row with a page break?

I understand the words, but I don't understand the question itself...

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128532] Uniformity to be applied by default to styles 'Heading x'

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128532

--- Comment #4 from ricky.t...@gmail.com ---
I did not know that something would be wrong with identifying levels via italic
weight. I learn every day, don't I? Remember please those illustrations
–Heading 1 to Heading 3 and Heading 9 to Heading 10–; they did presently show,
to anyone, thus a developer, that it was obviously not according to the way you
depicted it. Have you attempted to ignore that fact or trying to convince me to
see something else that what it is? Hopefully a mistake.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128532] Uniformity to be applied by default to styles 'Heading x'

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128532

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Ricky, do you have some kind of standard in mind how headings are formatted?
Otherwise, what's wrong with identifying levels via italic weight.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128421] TABLE: Don't draw the top and bottom border of the row that breaks across pages

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128421

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
How would you expect a table with inner border to be printed? With or without
border at the row with a page break?

It is, BTW, the same behavior as MSO Word has. WYSIWYG...

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128616] Add decorations to manual page break marker line showing the break's properties: "with page style" and "with page number"

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128616

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
So the one icon (the first in your mockup) means a different page style is
applied and the second shows up if the page number is set manually (or if there
is a way to modify it automatically). And no icon means off. Left/right
alternating documents have the icon between every page, for example.

That requires very clear symbols - I wouldn't know the meaning without reading
this topic for quite a while. The alternative is to grey out icons, which is
less optimal since the new icons would always be there and rather confuse the
Benjamin users who don't care. But at least a tooltip is needed.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126128] Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of scrolling

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128

Xisco Faulí  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|NEW
 Resolution|FIXED   |---

--- Comment #14 from Xisco Faulí  ---
Putting it back to NEW until things get sorted out

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126128] Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of scrolling

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128

--- Comment #13 from andreas_k  ---
what's the maximum size for mobile? This information is essential for me cause
I update a lot Dialogs within the 6.4 release circle.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126128] Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of scrolling

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128

--- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Andras Timar from comment #11)
> As I wrote, our (or rather our customer's) problem was with the Online, on
> mobile. We forward ported this patch from our release branch to master, but
> if you think it's not good, then you can revert it, or add a better
> solution. Probably it would not harm our future Online product, because we
> are introducing native JS dialogs on mobile, anyway.

Please revert yourself, the doer is always right. UX's duty is to convince
people not to be the police.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126128] Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of scrolling

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128

--- Comment #11 from Andras Timar  ---
As I wrote, our (or rather our customer's) problem was with the Online, on
mobile. We forward ported this patch from our release branch to master, but if
you think it's not good, then you can revert it, or add a better solution.
Probably it would not harm our future Online product, because we are
introducing native JS dialogs on mobile, anyway.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128616] Add decorations to manual page break marker line showing the break's properties: "with page style" and "with page number"

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128616

--- Comment #4 from Mike Kaganski  ---
Created attachment 155569
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=155569=edit
Mockup for the icons in the page break dashed line

Please note that the menu is absolutely unrelated thing, and doesn't help
seeing the properties of the break without inspecting it - i.e., just by
scrolling through the document and looking at the document content and
formatting (with formatting marks enabled).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128278] TABLE: Table columns: use percents as a default

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128278

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128278] TABLE: Table columns: use percents as a default

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128278

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #1)
> I can't confirm it with

> 5. Return to "Table" tab and change the alignment to "Left". 
...and check "[ ] Relative".

Units are everywhere given in absolute values unless you set relative, for
example there are many requests around font size in percent. My preferred
solution is a per-control switch (linked across similar controls in this case)
as discussed in bug 72662.

Back to the topic: with percent by default we cannot switch back to absolute
values. And many use cases require this. So my take is WF.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128616] Add decorations to manual page break marker line showing the break's properties: "with page style" and "with page number"

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128616

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
There is the context menu that shows up when the cursor rests on the break for
a few seconds. This menu gives access to Paragraph: Text flow. Not sure that we
can do better with text at the blue line (and don't understand what exactly
should be there).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126128] Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of scrolling

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128

--- Comment #10 from andreas_k  ---
Created attachment 155561
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=155561=edit
2 column layout

I also have an WIP for an two column layout this will save a lot of space, but
this doesn't follow the renewal from 2016 see.

https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2015/12/22/area-fill-options-made-consistent/

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126128] Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of scrolling

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128

--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We can discuss anything, including this solution. Minimum size is defined in
the HIG as 1280x768px/WXGA, the dialog has with VCL=kde 769x591 and with
VCL=gtk3 796x650 with stable/6.2.8.2. Master changes this to 870x580 (gtk3).

If a dialog takes too much vertical space it's the print dialog bug 127782 and
we consider different options. The area dialog received a lot of love and it
would be a pity when the concept is watered down.

On a personal note, the new ratio is 1:1.5 for the whole dialog but close to
1:2 for the content, while the old ratio is 1:1.2 / 1:1.8, which is closer to
the common 4:3 format. In other words, long but short dialogs feel badly
designed to me.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126128] Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of scrolling

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128

--- Comment #8 from andreas_k  ---
(In reply to Andras Timar from comment #6)
> If a dialog does not fit on the screen, it's a bigger UX problem IMHO. We
> discovered this bug on mobile with Online.

Guideline say an Dialog should be max. 800 x 600 px, so if this is not correct,
please say the new minimum size.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/PropertyDialog

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126128] Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of scrolling

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128

andreas_k  changed:

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 CC||kain...@gmail.com

--- Comment #7 from andreas_k  ---
Size Before: 705 x 583 px
Size After:  678 x 540 px
Saved pixel:  27 x  43 px

Guideline say Dialog maximum size is 800 x 600 px.

Win10 sure at GTK3 backend it's even more.

Yes the Area tab is the largest tab and if you change this 4 items you can save
space at ALL dialogs where Area tab was available. So it's the best place to
save space.

I would be happy to support you with make the Area Dialog smaler but as Heiko
wrote don't destroy the three column arrangement.

Options to save space:
- Make the Preview square (save horizontal space)
- Found out why the center Options column is that width (and make it smaler)
- reduce rows in Gradient Option section (save vertical space)
  maybe Center (X/Y): left align to the two spinners
  maybe Increment left align and than right Automatic and spinner (not sure it
will work)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126128] Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of scrolling

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128

--- Comment #6 from Andras Timar  ---
If a dialog does not fit on the screen, it's a bigger UX problem IMHO. We
discovered this bug on mobile with Online.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126128] Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of scrolling

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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URL||https://design.blog.documen
   ||tfoundation.org/2015/12/22/
   ||area-fill-options-made-cons
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126128] Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of scrolling

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Created attachment 16
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=16=edit
Screenshot old vs. new

New/master left vs. old/stable right.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126128] Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of scrolling

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||tima...@gmail.com

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Gülşah, your patch [1] destroys a clear concept just to save a few pixels
space. You sacrifice the functional assignment of the three columns with
presets, properties, and preview to some random alignment (based on your
personal preference since there are no comments on this ticket; Xisco CC'ed
himself because of spam) - I understand this as serious damage on usability.
White space is not your enemy.

[1] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/81910/

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128616] Add decorations to manual page break marker line showing the break's properties: "with page style" and "with page number"

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128616

--- Comment #2 from Mike Kaganski  ---
A code pointer: SwPageBreakWin::Paint in
sw/source/uibase/docvw/PageBreakWin.cxx.

Possibly a page icon (something like small LO icon), and a "#" icon, could be
inserted to the left part of the line, so that instead of

- - - - - - - ...

it would look like

[] #  - - - - ...

(note that the left position of the [] (symbolizing the rectangular "page"
icon) is the same as currently the left point of the dashed line, so that the
icons are not extending outside of the page left edge)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128616] Add decorations to manual page break marker line showing the break's properties: "with page style" and "with page number"

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128616

Dieter Praas  changed:

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 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de,
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--- Comment #1 from Dieter Praas  ---
+1 from my side for this idea.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128278] TABLE: Table columns: use percents as a default

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128278

Dieter Praas  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|
   Severity|enhancement |minor
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de

--- Comment #1 from Dieter Praas  ---
I can't confirm it with

Version: 6.3.3.1 (x64)
Build ID: f41f4c7f9507aeca13cb9df51f34d80e8ba30a99
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: default; VCL: win; 
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI-Language: en-GB
Calc: threaded

and also not with

Version: 6.4.0.0.alpha1 (x64)
Build ID: cc57df8f942f239d29cb575ea5a7cb01405db787
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 18362; UI render: GL; VCL: win; 
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

Columns always shows absolute units (I treid with every setting in alignment)

Please make sure
a) that you use the latest version of of LibreOffice from
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ ?
b) Make sure, that the reported issue is not related to corruption in the user
profile. Please reset your
 Libreoffice profile (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile) and
re-test?

I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to
'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug is still present in the latest version and with a
fresh user profile. Change to RESOLVED WORKSFORME, if the problem went away.

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