[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 113418] scrolling vertical tab bar instead of horizontal multi-tab dialogs

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113418

--- Comment #10 from zyklo...@web.de ---
Created attachment 138511
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=138511=edit
Builder settings layout

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 113418] scrolling vertical tab bar instead of horizontal multi-tab dialogs

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113418

--- Comment #9 from zyklo...@web.de ---
Well, you’re complaining about icons being too small, while in the current
implementation, there aren’t any at all…? Additionally, these headings with
icons would then look like the current LO menu implementation, which fulfills a
pretty similar purpuse (making settings accessible via a menu structure).
There, I also don’t see a downside of icons next to the text.

Still, you could of course do that with big icons and sub settings menus, like
you proposed. But I really wouldn’t do modes at all, because a lot of users
(like me) activate that instantly, just for not missing anything when searching
for a setting (and never deactivate it again). Additionally, you’ll have two
completely different settings windows, depending on which mode you’re in, what
makes it pretty complicated to find/remember a setting, and is confusing at
all.

Instead I’d rather do an “Advanced” Settings page with sub-settings, for having
no mode conflicts and a user then learns faster, what’s in there and if he/she
needs to (ever) look into it. When you have modes, it’s far harder to learn if
you need expert mode or not. And I’d call that mode “advanced” instead of
“expert”. ;)


I append my proposal for a new Gnome Builder settings UI, I did last week. What
do you think about that? On the left pane, you’ll have the main categories
(with big icons if you like). And then you have a GtkStackSwitcher at the top
of the main view for sifting through sub-settings. This way you don’t need to
“get back to the upper menu layer” (with the main menus being hidden), and you
also don’t have big structures/trees. With everything being split in a vertical
main menu and a horizontal sub menu, you’ll also recall setting’s locations
faster than in any kind of tree or mode.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 106345] In search of a better name for last line justification

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106345

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC||philip...@hotmail.com
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #5 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 98211 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 106345] In search of a better name for last line justification

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106345

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114534
[Bug 114534] [META] Paragraph alignment bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] StartCenter: adjust Help and Extension buttons to use same UI when hoovering mouse so UI experience is unified and consistent (comment 12)

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
   |.freedesktop.org|
 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #19 from Heiko Tietze  ---
While I agree with the idea to keep the UI clean and also think that placing
rarely used buttons at a prominent position isn't a good idea to promote the
function, the overall opinion is to keep things as they are. Stuart's
evolutionary argument is striking to me, and the buttons are not too obtrusive.
=> WFM


Remark: The better advertising of extensions is to have them directly where
needed
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/11/11/additions-to-libreoffice/

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 94091] Removing File > Printer Settings

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94091

--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Can we agree on moving the controls from this dialog to Tools > Options >
(sw|sc|sd) > Print?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 92499] Start Center GUI for the Templates button dropdown needs alignment and proper styling

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92499

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
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--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Looks like there is agreement on right-aligning the context menu. Removing
needsUX.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 89062] Start center and menu bar still accessible when document loading bar running

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89062

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
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--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Possible solutions: disable access to controls in the start center while
loading, make this particular loading modal (e.g. feedback to the loading in an
extra dialog - awkward for small files), show the target module immediately
(ideally with first data). I would prefer the latter.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 88180] Feature Request: File Picker Improvements

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88180

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
While your suggestions make a lot of sense, the internal file dialogs will
always have a bad usability compared to the native. It was introduced to
support Qt4 (VCL backend kde4) and to provide additional CMIS functions. Both
have been solved meanwhile or will be replaced soon, so the only reason for
internal dialogs is the generic VCL backend and the headless mode. Therefore
first steps have been made (bug 114484) to retire the internal dialogs. Rather
than enhancing the functionality we should strip down any non-essential
feature.

(Would be good to hear your opinion, Dave, with a lot of users.)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 105853] UI: Options page Calc > Formula, section Separator looks odd

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105853

Cor Nouws  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #5 from Cor Nouws  ---
is fixed in Version: 6.1.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: aa0b08980aba7bc82ab75151129b0c643cde7dfa
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.13; UI render: default; VCL: gtk2; 
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@70-TDF, Branch:master, Time:
2017-12-04_23:24:32
Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL.UTF-8); Calc: group threaded

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 113418] scrolling vertical tab bar instead of horizontal multi-tab dialogs

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113418

--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Small or medium sized icons are not suited as headlines, IMHO, it has to be an
outstanding eye catcher compared to functions in the right content section. And
text right of the icons may end in trouble with localization, or your dialogs
grow like Gnome's.

My solution to this was to show a few items with big buttons for the most
important properties along with an overview of settings, and a small list or
tree (with no icons) in another expert mode, which is also being activated if
the user clicks on a link in the mentioned overview. It looks like this
http://scrabble.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Configuration:Rules

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114369] Label workflow requires simplification

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114369

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 113931] MAILMERGE Add button to the Mail Merge toolbar to insert MM fields

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113931

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 113931] MAILMERGE Add button to the Mail Merge toolbar to insert MM fields

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113931

Timur  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #4 from Timur  ---
So, we have "Data Sources" button in MM toolbar and a single click opens
"Database selection". You browse to tables and drag fields where you want.
Proposal was (if I understood it) to add another button to MM toolbar that
would open "Database selection" (and then also tables and fields). 
So, you would save that one click to open Data Sources but would loose visual
overview of fields data, possibility to drag where you want and get that field
at cursor position. 

Heiko didn't support this one. I don't know why he didn't close so I'll do it.
Just because I also didn't understand the value of this comparing to the
effort. 
Gabor, if you don't agree please set again as Unconfirmed. Or get someone in CC
who could say more.

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