[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138642] Manual break dialog says (next) page style set to none. Appears to incorrect, the page layout is always based on a page style

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138642

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Somewhat bikeshedding here as I haven't seen any user complaining about the
missing [None] pages style. But anyway, either go with radio buttons as Regina
suggests (the text is a bit verbose and better suited for a tooltip) or a
checkbox similar to the page number below. 

( ) Line break
( ) Column break
(o) Page break
[x] New style [v]
[ ] Change page number  [ +-]

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138628] ClearDirectFormatting does not remove page break

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138628

--- Comment #3 from Mike Kaganski  ---
This obviously *is* direct formatting, and I bet there was some explicit
processing for page breaks not removed when clearing the direct formatting from
paragraphs. Of course we need to look into the code to be absolutely sure, but
it's my gut feeling, that this is a "feature" targeted on inexperienced users
coming from MS Office, and who are not used to the idea that page break is a
property of paragraphs.

Personally I would thing that a configuration would be useful for this, to
allow more complete clearing of direct formatting.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138628] ClearDirectFormatting does not remove page break

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138628

--- Comment #2 from tor...@yahoo.com ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> Clear _direct_ formatting does nothing but to remove formats like font
> weight, size, and color. It's a bit unclear what you mean with "style
> TextBody includes no page break"

**  In the styles list, right-click TextBody, choose Modify>TextFlow,
Breaks: Insert is NOT checked —at least, after a fresh installation of LO.
Try the converse with style Heading1: Check TextFlow, Breaks: Insert
PageBreak; apply ^1 to any text, make it a Heading1: new page; format it,
uncheck Breaks: PageBreak disappears; ^m restores the PageBreak.

> Why should one add a page break after/before text body?
**before. Because the text contains a frame which does not fit in the current
page, and LO has trouble displaying it. The page break moves text and frame to
a new page.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138642] Manual break dialog says (next) page style set to none. Appears to incorrect, the page layout is always based on a page style

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138642

--- Comment #2 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #1)
> Or make a choice
> * continue with current page style
> * start with other page style from here. Select:
> and show drop-down list only in the second case.

>From communication perspective I opt for the above: make choice here.

Thing is there is always a 'page style'. The question is if you explicitly set
one. This an be they same as the previous paragraph.. The difference occur only
when changing the page style for a area limited by page breaks..

[The other topic the page break line showing if explicit page style is set or
'inheriting' the previous one.. There bug reporting with a proposal in that
direction somewhere]. As part the long list of my complains (in)valid complains
regarding accessibility/work-ability with page styles. 

@Offtopic
However i'm also the opinion of 'page breaks' not being a part of paragraph
style by definition. I surely get they idea of connecting page break to
paragraph style, if this done explicitly on purpose. However as the only way,
I'm still not really convinced.. I never had the impression of page breaks
being attached to paragraphs in Word with all the quirks it brings.. [But this
touches ideology, and maybe even file format specifications] and rather
off-topic here

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138642] Manual break dialog says (next) page style set to none. Appears to incorrect, the page layout is always based on a page style

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138642

Regina Henschel  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de

--- Comment #1 from Regina Henschel  ---
Yes, {None] is not clear. In content it means "continue using current page
style".

So perhaps [current] would be better?

Or make a choice
* continue with current page style
* start with other page style from here. Select:
and show drop-down list only in the second case.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138641] Page style should be next page style in the insert page dialog

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138641

Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|normal  |enhancement
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> ---
Agree

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138453] TABLE STYLE: can't be turned off because there is no "OFF" option

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138453

Thomas Lendo  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||thomas.le...@gmail.com
 Blocks||107553

--- Comment #4 from Thomas Lendo  ---
Is this a duplicate of Bug 133198 - Unchecking the formatting checkboxes in
Autoformat dialog has no effect for the current table ?

It should be handled in the same way as the also missing 'no list' item in the
list styles of the Styles sidebar and menu.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107553
[Bug 107553] [META] Writer table styles bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138502] Spellchecker problems with multiple languages and custom languages

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138502

--- Comment #4 from arie...@trashmail.com ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> (In reply to ariel18 from comment #2)
> > Is it possible to set a user-defined...
> 
> Tools > Options > Language Settings > Writing Aids (or Options... in the
> spell checking dialog) allows to add a new dictionary, to edit, and to
> delete. 

Thank you, Heiko. I did find that setting for the .dic files, but I also wanted
to know about custom .aff files. 

In many Linux distros these will be under /usr/share/hunspell

They are the files that give permissible inflection types. They allow you to
say that if "dog" is a correctly-spelled word, so is "dogs" and "dog's" and
"dogs'". And if "Wort" is a word, so is "Wörter", and if "gehen" is a word, so
are "gehe", "gehst", "gegangen", and so on. The man page for hunspell describes
this in some detail (https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/4-hunspell/).

The custom dicts seem to use a different way of indicating inflections from the
default hunspell dicts (by analogy to other words, not by categories). This
means that if my custom words do not inflect just like an existing English
word, I have to add every inflected form individually to the custom
dictionaries.

So my question is, how do I add custom inflection patterns?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 117463] Create a Dialog that shows up on first boot of Writer/Calc/Impress for the user to pick its default UI

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117463
Bug 117463 depends on bug 138631, which changed state.

Bug 138631 Summary: "Apply to All" button in select preferred UI dialog can't 
be translated
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138631

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138453] TABLE STYLE: can't be turned off because there is no "OFF" option

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138453

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138642] Manual break dialog says (next) page style set to none. Appears to incorrect, the page layout is always based on a page style

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138642

Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
   Keywords||needsUXEval

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138641] Page style should be next page style in the insert page dialog

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138641

Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138640] Page break before/after terminology kind of confusing

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138640

Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org

--- Comment #1 from Telesto  ---
Lets do another round on the page-break topic. FWIW: i'm only attempting to put
a finger on a flaw which is context depended..

So they dialog makes some sense inserting a page break using - Format ->
Paragraph Style -> Text Flow -> Insert paragraph..

However the dialog becomes rather confusing if page break already present.. So
after/before being irrelevant in my perception. 
And of course dialog makes again sense for configuring styles.. 

However would appreciated if we could think about the design again, if
something can be done to improve things.

However not sure how much flexibility there is with shared code/dialog. Say if
it's possible to - for example - disable before/after for present page break
(so can only be configured if setting a new one or configuring a page style..
[Only some thing crossing my mind, without deep thoughts]

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138362] Cursor shape must change to indicate which cell is resized for hidden columns

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138362

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
I like this <-||-> vs <-|-> differentiation (and the better visualization than
our bold line between header cells). Let's do it.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138472] Calc enhancement: ignore rows when importing CSV

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138472

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
I fully agree with Miguel. But since we have a dropdown "Column Type" where
"Hide" is an option, we could easily add "Delete" to the list. This wouldn't
affect the usability of the import dialog. But still, it's hard to imagine that
users click through all columns for fine-tuning the import. Maybe the better
solution is a special extension or some kind of raw data preparation before the
import.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138502] Spellchecker problems with multiple languages and custom languages

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138502

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to ariel18 from comment #2)
> Is it possible to set a user-defined...

Tools > Options > Language Settings > Writing Aids (or Options... in the spell
checking dialog) allows to add a new dictionary, to edit, and to delete. Should
be easy to check Yòu against MyGreek and Yóu against MyFrench.
Admitted, this task is not easy and perhaps you just ignore the words
eventually ;-)

Guess the original request has been answered. Resolving the ticket as WF, feel
free to reopen.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138506] Retain modified style format (instead of using the default built-in style format) when copy cell range and paste as GDI format in Draw

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138506

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Severity|enhancement |normal

--- Comment #16 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Clearly a bug to me. Pasting content does not respect the actual cell style, if
existing. Happens for Calc object and for GDI.

We changed the cell styles and prior this version you just don't have
good/bad/error etc. For testing purpose I'd add another cell style "Foo" - this
is taken as defined into the target.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 124649] Menubar: Show icons for the most important items

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124649

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
   ||8621

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138621] three improvements in File > Templates and associated .uno commands

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138621

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12
   ||4649

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138621] three improvements in File > Templates and associated .uno commands

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138621

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61
   ||396
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl,
   ||kain...@gmail.com,
   ||pierre-yves.samyn@laposte.n
   ||et, riz...@libreoffice.org
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #0)
> 1. ”Open Template” should be renamed to ”Edit Template”
>(explains its function better)

It was changed from Edit for bug 61396. Maybe not intentionally since bug 61396
comment 18 talks about "Open for Editing".

> 2. The three entries in the File>Templates submenu 
> (Open Template, Save Template, Manage Templates)
>  should have their corresponding icons, such as appears
>  in Tools>Customize>Menus).

The ...menu:style="text" modification was done by Andreas for bug 124649. Only
the most relevant commands should have an icon as attractor. Keeping the other
less distracting is not so important in case of submenus.

> 3. In Tools>Customize>Menus>Search (enter:  temp)   
>(result: 4 .uno commands)
> 
> a. There are two ”Templates”, corresponding respectively to
> .uno:TemplateManager and .uno:NewDoc. Afaict, they do the same thing.  Is
> that the intention?

Seems so. But .uno:TemplateManager is not used in menus or toolbars anyway so
maybe we just hide it from the customization.

>   b.  the icon for the .uno:NewDoc command is exactly the same as the 
> icon in
> the menu for File>Templates  (but has different function).  Should be
> different icon. 

.uno:TemplateManager, to be hidden if we agree on a), is the same as
.uno:TemplateMenu but NewDoc has a decoration, at least with the KJ theme.
Please be more specific here.

> c.  Curiously, tooltip for .uno:TemplateManager is ”Templates”  
>  while tooltip for .uno:NewDoc is ”Show Templates Manager” 
> 
> If both .uno commands are retained (because of API?), perhaps tooltips
> should be improved.

The .uno:NewDoc works pretty well to me.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 117463] Create a Dialog that shows up on first boot of Writer/Calc/Impress for the user to pick its default UI

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117463

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||138631


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138631
[Bug 138631] "Apply to All" button in select preferred UI dialog can't be
translated
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138628] ClearDirectFormatting does not remove page break

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138628

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||mikekagan...@hotmail.com

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Clear _direct_ formatting does nothing but to remove formats like font weight,
size, and color. It's a bit unclear what you mean with "style TextBody includes
no page break" but given it's a direct formatting to the paragraph style
(context menu > paragraph > paragraph...) this is not direct formatting. There
should be a duplicate ticket requesting clear direct formatting to also clear
direct paragraph formats but cannot find it, closest are bug 71233 and bug
78371. Mike, any idea?

Why should one add a page break after/before text body?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138406] Permanently setting heading numbering font fails

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138406

Buovjaga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |
   |.freedesktop.org|

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138406] Permanently setting heading numbering font fails

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138406

Adolfo Jayme  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|NOTABUG |WORKSFORME

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