[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141676] OPTIONS DIALOG: Split "Add Paragraph and Table spacing at tops of pages" into two separate options

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141676

Dieter  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Split "Add Paragraph and|OPTIONS DIALOG: Split "Add
   |Table spacing at tops of|Paragraph and Table spacing
   |pages" into two separate|at tops of pages" into two
   |options |separate options
 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de,
   ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
 Blocks||113944
   Keywords||needsUXEval
 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|

--- Comment #1 from Dieter  ---
Rarding to
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-GB/text/shared/optionen/01041000.html?System=WIN=WRITER=modules/swriter/ui/optcompatpage/OptCompatPage#bm_id2023987
this setting is onl valid for the first page of a document? If this is true,
this fact should be mentioned in the dialog


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113944
[Bug 113944] [META] Options dialog's Writer settings bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141483] SIDEBAR: Convert style filter menu into several orthogonal filters

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141483

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141168] [ENHANCEMENT] Allow raise/lower position by 0%

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141168

--- Comment #9 from ajlittoz  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8)
> implement this feature in LibreOffice :-)

I admit I'm a bit tempted, but the code size is really huge. Is there any
design documentation describing the implementation principles (class semantics
and others)?

Should I start by reading ODF?

I must also tell I don't like autogen and m4. I prefer CMake.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141651] INDEX: Table of figures Hyperlink points to caption, should point to parent frame

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141651

Dieter  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||89606
Summary|Table of figures Hyperlink  |INDEX: Table of figures
   |points to caption, should   |Hyperlink points to
   |point to parent frame   |caption, should point to
   ||parent frame
 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|
   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de,
   ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org

--- Comment #1 from Dieter  ---
I confirm the described behaviour with

Version: 7.1.3.1 (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: fa76d07d7006a0e2866c3247cef2d5eb55ae8369
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB
Calc: CL

Additional information:
If you choose "Create from Objects" in the type tab you get the desired result

Let's decide design team, if an improvement is useful here.
cc: Design-Team


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89606
[Bug 89606] [META] Table of Contents and Indexes bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141168] [ENHANCEMENT] Allow raise/lower position by 0%

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141168

--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to ajlittoz from comment #7)
> Eventually, could not Default Character Style be considered as a placeholder
> for the attributes in the paragraph style?

As a consequence, all CS would have to be specified in percent. Many users are
used to font size in points, like 12pt and 10pt, and need a calculator to get
the correct value.
And ultimately I believe it will not solve your problem. But why don't you
create an extension, maybe per direct formatting?

> I should perhaps start to learn LaTeX.

Or C++, and implement this feature in LibreOffice :-)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 140568] Allow page gutter position 'Right' for left pages

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140568

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||mikekagan...@hotmail.com

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
I would expect the gutter at right for left pages. The checkbox "gutter on
right side" is quite confusing here and affects only odd pages for the mirrored
layout. Can we rename "Left" to "side" and put it automatically at left on even
pages and right otherwise? And remove the checkbox.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 140565] Add a view option for 'Book view' to suppress page gutter

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140565

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
IMO, we rather have too many view options right now. Another one for very rare
case is confusing for most users. Plus, setting up a gutter (or any other
property) should result in a corresponding WYSIWYG visualization. My take: show
the gutter as requested in bug 140564, also in book mode. => WF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141910] Redesign the Label UI

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141910

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyMedium, easyHack,
   ||skillCpp, topicDesign

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Easyhack, still some C++ knowledge needed. Code pointer: 

sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/cardmediumpage.ui
sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/labelformatpage.ui
sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/labeloptionspage.ui

sw/source/ui/envelp/*

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 105550] FORMATTING Pasting text changes paragraph format in older LO document

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105550

--- Comment #14 from Heiko Tietze  ---
But if the paragraph is empty with Default PS, isn't it a convenience feature
to keep the source style? Pretty easy to paste without styles anyway.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141452] Rename Tools > Chapter Numbering back to Outline Numbering

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141452

Xisco FaulĂ­  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||xiscofa...@libreoffice.org

--- Comment #20 from Xisco FaulĂ­  ---
(In reply to Dieter from comment #15)
> Eyal, I think Design-Team should decide finally in one of the next meetings.
> Since everybody can join it's meetings, everybody should accept the decision
> then. Heiko, if you disagree, please add a comment.

I agree with Dieter.
Eyal, would it be possible for you to join the next UX Team meeting ?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141453] Better integration of outline numbering with paragraph and numbering styles

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141453

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||103370
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #0)
> * Why can't we have multiple paragraph-style-linked numbering schemes?
> * Why shouldn't the numbering styles/schemes be viewable and configurable
> via the (List) Styles pane?
> * Why should the dialog for configuring Numbering styles not simply allow
> for levels to be associated with paragraph styles and/or outline levels?

Many answers are given on bug 104206 which is a duplicate itself of bug 62032
(would do the same for this one). The confusion has been reported in bug 83071
or bug 96274. And we introduced a tooltip as first band aid in bug 122637.

=> DUP of 62032 (keep in mind that QA works on numbers; the priority of tickets
raise with duplicates and people on CC)


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103370
[Bug 103370] [META] Outline/Chapter numbering bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141839] Resize selected table cells individually

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141839

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
Summary|Non-adjacent table rows |Resize selected table cells
   |with unequal column widths  |individually
   |snap to same width when |
   |adjusted|
 Blocks||107553
   Severity|normal  |enhancement
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
I still believe the other way around, snap by default and resize selected cells
individually on demand, is easier than snapping per special interaction (eg
with ctrl being pressed). Most users need simple tables and are accustomed to
the current behavior too. 

Could imagine that a "cells" tab in the table properties dialog (or better an
extra dialog) to enter precise values for the selected cells is needed as well.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107553
[Bug 107553] [META] Writer table styles bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141483] SIDEBAR: Convert style filter menu into several orthogonal filters

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141483

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Yes, the Stylist has room for improvements. This was discussed in the past and
will be hopefully addressed in a GSoC project this year.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 90646 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141452] Rename Tools > Chapter Numbering back to Outline Numbering

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141452

--- Comment #19 from Timur  ---
I don't have an opinion in favor of Outline or Chapter, nor I followed in
detail, but I was against the change for the sake of continuity. 
Already in the beginning it was clear that this is not clear improvement. Even
if some small, nor enough to do it in my opinion. 
Some would be satisfied, some not. Not worth a change and 2 reports.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141452] Rename Tools > Chapter Numbering back to Outline Numbering

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141452

--- Comment #18 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #9)
> 1. Believes that the numbering features are to be found outside of Format |
> Paragraph (or even the format menu) and outside the Numbering Styles sidebar.
> 2. Believes they should look for a relevant feature in the Tools menu.
> 3. Knows that Chapter numbering will apply to sub-chapter-level elements, or
> in a chapterless documents.

All true but not directly related to the terminology of Outline vs. Chapter. We
concluded somewhere else that chapter numbering should be available on the
actual numbering tab in the paragraph properties dialog.
Whether Outline or Chapter, none seems to be perfectly clear without reading a
documentation or doing the usual trial and error. Once you know the workflow
labels are kinda inferior.
Most of us are not native speakers. The implicit translation could result in
misinterpretation. I would trust in the recommendation of native speakers,
which is Dave here. No offense to anyone, many of you are linguistic geniuses.
A good idea, if it comes to localization questions, is to involve the l10n
team. Ideally via mailing list.


We all pull together. Controversial opinions are necessary to ponder different
views, and somehow we have to make a choice. I'm also not happy with every
democratic decision taken in the past. But have to ask myself: is it really
worth to fight?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141483] SIDEBAR: Convert style filter menu into several orthogonal filters

2021-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141483

Dieter  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de,
   ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
Summary|Convert style filter menu   |SIDEBAR: Convert style
   |into several orthogonal |filter menu into several
   |filters |orthogonal filters
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11
   ||4886
 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|QA:needsComment
   Keywords||needsUXEval

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