[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138786] PS formatting gets lost, if you paste text into an new document with same name of PS, but different settings (see comment 5)

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138786

--- Comment #9 from Dieter  ---
I agree with your reasoning, Mike.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138786] PS formatting gets lost, if you paste text into an new document with same name of PS, but different settings (see comment 5)

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138786

--- Comment #8 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> We can
> a) silently apply the target style (current situation)
> b) silently copy/rename of source style ("Caption_1", for example)
> c) show a dialog to resolve the conflict 

(In reply to Dieter from comment #7)
> So in the case you paste text from another document I would at least expect
> a message like: "You paste content from another document. Copied style
> formatting will be overwritten by styles with the same name." OK | Cancel |
> Don't show message again (Of course you can use a better English)

There are three actual cases usability-wise:

1. The user pastes as plain text - i.e., the current Ctrl+Alt+Shift+V behavior;
2. The user would want the pasted rich text to follow the styling of target
document (i.e., the same-name styles get the meaning they have in the target
document; absent styles are added; direct formatting is applied as in the
source) - i.e., the current Ctrl+V behavior;
3. The user wants the pasted text to look as it looked in the source. This is
what this issue is about.

The #3 indeed must *not* be implemented by modifying the existing styles
(because that would re-format existing text); and I would tell that renaming
styles would also be poor, because it would proliferate automatically generated
styles - consider a document, into which you copy some text from other source
many times - will it generate new style_1, style_2, ... style_N each time?

The reasonable implementation of "keep source formatting" paste option would be
to use the target styles, *but* additionally apply direct formatting atop, to
override any formatting in the target document which does not match what was in
the source. The "I want the text to look the same as in the source" case is a
clear sign of unstructured approach (at least locally), and DF is IMO
absolutely fine.

And IMO, some improvement of the paste process would be nice. A dialog is a
no-go; but we already have a drop-down paste toolbar button; and we could try
to implement more convenience tools - see e.g. how MS Word does that, by
displaying a floating toolbar on paste, with buttons allowing to change the
formatting of the pasted text *retroactively*. I don't suggest to copy that
approach, but I suppose that some improvement is possible without intrusive
(blocking) UI (which is a dialog).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152851] MathML import should work even when no xmlns attribute is present

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152851

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98
   ||827
 Blocks||118765
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118765
[Bug 118765] [META] MathML bugs
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152851] MathML import should work even when no xmlns attribute is present

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152851

--- Comment #4 from Regina Henschel  ---
I think, it is a valid enhancement request. It might be duplicate to bug 98827,
at least strong related. From a user point of view such feature is important as
it would allow to import  fragments. I would restrict the request to
texts, which have  root element and start with . The result might
not be as expected because LibreOffice's MathML support is at version 2.0. But
getting something the user then can edit is better than getting nothing.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152851] MathML import should work even when no xmlns attribute is present

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152851

--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> The RELAX NG schema, and I believe we are talking about this, has been
> introduced a while ago and we should support it. What do you think, Regina?

Looks to me that RELAX NG still requires a DTD of the xmlns: tag for the
content.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135474] Insert image location points to AppData\Roaming\LibreOfficeDev\4\user\gallery with a fresh profile

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135474

--- Comment #5 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 
 ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 129564 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138786] PS formatting gets lost, if you paste text into an new document with same name of PS, but different settings (see comment 5)

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138786

--- Comment #7 from Dieter  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> In the case of Writer, the goal of styles is to create a consistent
> document. Therefore b) makes no sense to me. Showing a dialog would be a
> major nuisance for most users, so maybe some kind of paste special option
> where all attributes are taken from the source. In fact pasting as RTF does
> not work, likely since we do not copy every single attribute.
> 
> My take: NAB, aka a).

Heiko, I understand your arguments, but I don't agree with the conclusion.
Original bug report shows, that it isn't always easy to figure out, why a
pasted text doesn't look as expected.

So in the case you paste text from another document I would at least expect a
message like: "You paste content from another document. Copied style formatting
will be overwritten by styles with the same name." OK | Cancel | Don't show
message again (Of course you can use a better English)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138786] PS formatting gets lost, if you paste text into an new document with same name of PS, but different settings (see comment 5)

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138786

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC||mikekagan...@hotmail.com

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Similar topic in bug 112697 for Impress.

We can
a) silently apply the target style (current situation)
b) silently copy/rename of source style ("Caption_1", for example)
c) show a dialog to resolve the conflict 

In the case of Writer, the goal of styles is to create a consistent document.
Therefore b) makes no sense to me. Showing a dialog would be a major nuisance
for most users, so maybe some kind of paste special option where all attributes
are taken from the source. In fact pasting as RTF does not work, likely since
we do not copy every single attribute.

My take: NAB, aka a).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147776] Add option to export slides from Impress as SVG without JavaScript

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147776

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11
   ||7708
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
   Keywords|needsUXEval |needsDevAdvice
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
 Blocks||111450
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to skierpage from comment #0)
> The SVG should Just Work. There's no animation, there is only a single
> slide, so there's no reason to require JavaScript. The behavior is
> counterintuitive. All the visual elements you see in Impress are in the SVG,
> they're just hidden and nested.

My first thought was to make it optional, which seems to be a fact according
comment 4. But actually I don't see such an option in
ooO.Common.Filter.Graphic.Export.SVG. 

=> needsDevAdvice

See also the potential duplicate bug 105641 "export of single objects should
produce SVG without javascript" with a preliminary patch.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111450
[Bug 111450] [META] SVG fileSave filter (Draw/Impress)
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151541] Provide "Edit filter settings" checkbox in File Open dialog

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151541

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Not a fan of adding options to system dialogs in general but since we manage
saving by this it's reasonable for open as well.

The alternative to checkboxes is to have different dialogs, one with options
the other "direct" as known from printing. Or to provide options in an extra
dialog, document properties come in mind, which wouldn't solve the loading at
all.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148164] Calc - Not so obvious to apply multiple borderstyles to a group of cells

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148164

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The widget has a triple state / overloaded functionality: you select one or
more borders to manipulate the attributes at once. And you can quickly change
it on/off. I voted for simplification in bug 143249.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 143249 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151541] Provide "Edit filter settings" checkbox in File Open dialog

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151541

Stéphane Guillou (stragu)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151541] Provide "Edit filter settings" checkbox in File Open dialog

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151541

Stéphane Guillou (stragu)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Blocks||102732
Version|unspecified |Inherited From OOo
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||stephane.guillou@libreoffic
   ||e.org
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|

--- Comment #1 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 
 ---
Sounds sensible to me, but copying in UX.

Discrepancy inherited from OOo:

OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
OOO330m20 (Build:9567)


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102732
[Bug 102732] [META] OS file dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126074] Icon styles should not modify official application icons in start center (and other relevant places)

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126074

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15
   ||2842

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152842] Colibre application icons in start center isn't match application icon in taskbar & or title bar

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152842

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12
   ||6074
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Blocks||103184
 Depends on||132398
   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC|heiko.tietze@documentfounda |libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   |tion.org|.freedesktop.org

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
It was decided in bug 126074 to not have a unique branding but theme-able
icons. It has been like this before the latest icon update for bug 132398 if
you switch from Colibre to any other icon theme. Now the main icon does not
follow Colibre anymore on Windows and you see the difference.

Tagging UX for information but resolving as NAB.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103184
[Bug 103184] [META] UI theming bugs and enhancements
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132398
[Bug 132398] Adopt new main application icons
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142801] Support partial transparency in table cell backgrounds

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142801

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |needsDevAdvice
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
You can achieve transparency with an extra shape layer between the background
image and the foreground table. The table needs to have no filling in this
case. However, this approach fails if the table should have a highlighted row,
for example.

The question is whether tables (or rather any object) can have a transparency
attribute likewise shapes. If so I'd agree with the requirement.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147783] Cannot undo typing in Hyperlink dialog

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147783

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |
   |.freedesktop.org|
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
In addition to my comment 5 (not worth much effort, though nice to have), it's
clear that adding undo/redo in dialogs must not spoil the application's undo
stack (ie. undoing the last action after the hyperlink dialog is closed should
not consider every single key stroke).

Added needsDevAdvice to understand if a) undo/redo in RichTextBox would be a
separate function and b) the effort is acceptable low (easyhackable). No need
for further input from UX.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152860] Find toolbar's "placeholder for message" (.uno:SearchLabel tooltip / label) makes it sound like something is missing

2023-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152860

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81
   ||925
 CC||tima...@gmail.com

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Yes, the tooltip on empty search results is awkward. Yet we need the label for
the customization dialog. Maybe adding an empty tooltip to the command
attributes solves the problem. Challenge for l10n though. Andras, what do you
think?

Alternatively I could imagine something more descriptive like "Search results"
or "Search information".

Code pointer:  in
officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/GenericCommands.xcu

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