Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-29 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi Cor, my time is very sparse as well. Sorry for the delay. Le 26/09/2013 21:05, Cor Nouws a écrit : -- styles and formatting window: possibility of hiding styles This allows document creators to have a set of basic styles which won't be used by the final users. These only see the styles

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Jean-Fraincois, * [ picking up this thread, now/as far as time allows ] Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote (19-09-13 07:14) Le 18/09/2013 17:16, Cor Nouws a écrit : It would be my strong, very strong, preference to make controls for direct formatting hidden, far hidden, and clearly show

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi David, dollyp wrote (06-09-13 23:11) I don't agree with your comments about the sidebar eating space. Using Writer on a widescreen notebook I prefer the option to have things down the side of the screen so that the maximum vertical space is available, but with Sheet a wider display is

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Jean-Baptiste, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote (10-09-13 07:54) I do not agree with that except in the case of Calc. In Writer I work always with the Navigator and/or the Stylist open. With the Sidebar, I can close the Formatting toolbar and gain vertical space. Yes, that is the idea. I think

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Mirek, Mirek M. wrote (09-09-13 14:46) I share your sentiments about the sidebar. It should definitely be hidden by default, as it adds minimal value in return for a bunch of wasted space and a less focused, messier interface. The exception to this would be Impress, because it already

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Olivier Hallot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Cor Em 18-09-2013 12:16, Cor Nouws escreveu: It would be my strong, very strong, preference to make controls for direct formatting hidden, far hidden, and clearly show styles in a useful way. HAve you any idea to share on how should be the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Mirek M.
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Hi Jean-Baptiste, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote (10-09-13 07:54) I do not agree with that except in the case of Calc. In Writer I work always with the Navigator and/or the Stylist open. With the Sidebar, I can close the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Cor, On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Hi Mirek, Mirek M. wrote (09-09-13 14:46) I share your sentiments about the sidebar. It should definitely be hidden by default, as it adds minimal value in return for a bunch of wasted space and a less focused,

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Mirek, Mirek M. wrote (18-09-13 22:03) OK. And maybe, when visible in the other modules, remove some formatting toolbar? I'm not sure if I said it in this post, but I look at the Properties panel as the replacement for modal dialogs -- like the Inspector in Mac applications. Thus I

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Mirek M.
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Hi Mirek, Mirek M. wrote (18-09-13 22:03) OK. And maybe, when visible in the other modules, remove some formatting toolbar? I'm not sure if I said it in this post, but I look at the Properties panel as the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi Cor, Le 18/09/2013 17:16, Cor Nouws a écrit : It would be my strong, very strong, preference to make controls for direct formatting hidden, far hidden, and clearly show styles in a useful way. \o/ Yeah! I love you! Go for it! We *need* that! Styles are the very feature that

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-10 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Jean-Baptiste, Jean-Baptiste Faure schrieb: Hi all, [..] Another nice feature of the Sidebar could be to partially close it, keeping visible only its small vertical button bar. So you could be able to reopen the panel you need with one click. Currently, you need to reopen the Sidebar

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-10 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi Regina, Le 10/09/2013 16:16, Regina Henschel a écrit : Hi Jean-Baptiste, [...] If you have enabled the sidebar in View menu, then a click on the closer cross of the sidebar will do exact that: Close the deck (= the area of the panels) but keep the menu tab bar open. So feature is already

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-09 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Cor, I share your sentiments about the sidebar. It should definitely be hidden by default, as it adds minimal value in return for a bunch of wasted space and a less focused, messier interface. The exception to this would be Impress, because it already relies on the task pane for key

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-06 Thread dollyp
in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-ux-advise-some-thoughts-on-the-Sidebar-tp4073014p4073341.html Sent from the UX-Advise mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, I took the freedom to post a blog about the subject. http://cor4office.blogspot.nl/2013/09/sidebar-avoiding-it-or-improve-it-for.html Of course I skipped some details about the Sidebar that IMHO are not so relevant for my point. Two quotes: So for me, two reasons to dislike the