Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Hiding/Showing the page breaks in writer

2011-09-27 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Cedric, cedric.bosdonnat@free.fr wrote (27-09-11 22:40) Regina (IIRC) mentioned break before or after. And currently, we only have before, AFAIAA. Hence my remark. (But don't get me wrong: I do not ask for a new feature here!) We can have page break after in the Text Flow tab... so I

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] Styles cleanup removing option page std fonts

2011-10-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (19-10-11 17:19) Let me take it to ux-advise :-) Good idea :-) Maybe related to Cedrics default-template implementation: a way to easily choose another template ('style sheet') - this in contrast to the current way of importing styles via the function in the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Make the toolbars not popping-up randomly

2011-11-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Jan Holesovsky wrote (19-11-11 03:32) On 2011-11-18 at 23:56 +0100, Christoph Noack wrote: * When we've presented some proposals within the OOo Renaissance project, people mentioned that vertical space is valuable due to widescreen displays. So what about

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Make the toolbars not popping-up randomly

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Christoph, Christoph Noack wrote (21-11-11 22:00) A very first step (an initial cheap solution) might be to add another side pane which can accommodate the today's toolbars. If this toolbar is visible / accessible all the time, no need for a jumping document - quite the contrary, since the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Input bar UX

2011-12-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (12-12-11 18:03) On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 15:00 +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote: I really love the new input line feature :-) Me too (as they say) :-) OTOH AFAICS we're missing a screenshot of it in action in the features page:

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Tooltips options removal, was: Automatically select an option page if a user clicks on a category

2011-12-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi August, Stefan, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote (21-12-11 13:52) Next, maybe a good next thing to do would be to remove the first two options from here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Whiteboards/KillOptions#General (the options I mean are Tooltips/Extended tooltips) I recognise the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Tooltips options removal, was: Automatically select an option page if a user clicks on a category

2011-12-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote (22-12-11 16:26) just a heads-up: the options On the Load/Save page: * Save Save URLs relative to file system * Save Save URLs relative to internet need some discussion still, so it's best to wait with any action concerning those. Indeed. AFAIK, people make

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Table of Contents hyperlinks by default

2011-12-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Cedric, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote (23-12-11 11:15) That style is never used in the code... so we can change it to anything we want here. I'll assign that style to the ToX hyperlinks As it seems to be an impossible quest to get something visible but pretty, I'm wondering whether a new

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Remove options Show preview of fonts and Show font history

2011-12-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Stefan, *, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote (23-12-11 12:06) Right, that's part of the plan, too. We named it the AOP, or Advanced Options Panel, but it is not specced out yet. Look forward to think about that. I would like to take the stand that we should not shy away from (completely)

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [REVIEW 3-5: Late feature] Improvements in the header / footer behavior

2011-12-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Kendy, *, Jan Holesovsky wrote (29-12-11 14:15) - Appearing / disappearing of the controls after 1 second I noticed that most of the time when I am using that, I am terribly impatient even if it is just 1 second, and end up clicking the header / footer area hoping that it will

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [REVIEW 3-5: Late feature] Improvements in the header / footer behavior

2011-12-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Kendy, Jan Holesovsky wrote (29-12-11 17:22) On 2011-12-29 at 14:46 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: How does that behave when while scrolling the mouse moves over the top/bottom of a page? Like, when you use the mouse wheel? It seems that there are cases when it makes the makers to appear

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [REVIEW 3-5: Late feature] Improvements in the header / footer behavior

2011-12-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Ivan Timofeev wrote (30-12-11 16:35) And... is it possible to show the controls only on a single page? See the attached screenshot - it's absolutely crazy! %-) :-) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [REVIEW 3-5: Late feature] Improvements in the header / footer behavior

2012-01-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (04-01-12 13:04) Is it easy / possible to trigger the header appear etc. only on a mouse-move event ? :-) +1 (as expressed earlier ;-) ) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [PATCH 3.5 and master] Avoid UI bugs in translations

2012-01-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Korrawit Pruegsanusak wrote (07-01-12 06:48) Forward this to libreoffice-ux-advise. Would be good to have it before string freeze, which is due next Monday :) Sounds reasonable to me ... However, I remember there has been quite extensive discussion / testing (in which I wasn't involved, so

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [REVIEW 3-5: Late feature] Improvements in the header / footer behavior

2012-01-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Build just finished LibreOffice 3.6.0alpha0+ Build ID: ba759d7-ebf1e88-87c767e-libreoffice-3-5 branch-point Jan Holesovsky wrote (07-01-12 04:34) Show the page break tab under the mouse instead of the end of the line. it does, but I cannot click on it. It disappears when

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] use a geometric progression for zooming

2012-01-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Tim, Tim Hardeck wrote (14-01-12 18:21) I have created a patch to address fdo#44173. Zooming does now base on a geometric progression instead of an arithmetic one. Since the zoom factor is not only used in Draw but for all other applications 1.2 seems like a good choice but the value could

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] use a geometric progression for zooming

2012-01-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Tim, Tim Hardeck wrote (16-01-12 21:38) The problem is that if you start from a manual set zooming level or the full page zoom like for example 66% the values are different then the one you calculated. I know - it was just an example. So I have created some stimple functions which round

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] Re: [PATCH] optimized zoom to use more common intervals

2012-01-25 Thread Cor Nouws
Tim Hardeck wrote (25-01-12 15:29) On Wednesday 25 January 2012 12:46:02 Jan Holesovsky wrote: Also I changed the ZOOM_FACTOR from 1.1 to 2^(1/4), it feels better here, the 1.1 means way too much wheel rotation to increase / decrease the zoom considerably; but of course can be changed easily

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] fdo#37775 - EasyHack: Recent Documents not updated by Save Save As...

2012-02-12 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Ivan, Muhammad, Ivan Timofeev wrote (12-02-12 09:21) On 08.02.2012 17:06, Muhammad Haggag wrote: This patch changes LO behavior so that we update recent documents on file open, save, save as, save all, and close. The previous behavior was to only update the list on document close.

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] fdo#37775 - EasyHack: Recent Documents not updated by Save Save As...

2012-02-12 Thread Cor Nouws
Korrawit Pruegsanusak wrote (12-02-12 13:30) IMHO the case which 'file open' would be useful is already described in the bug comment 0 and 4: saving with a new name doesn't get old name into the list. Yes, if that is the technical reason, and can't be (easily) solved different (as suggested

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] conditional format dialog

2012-02-12 Thread Cor Nouws
pierre-yves samyn wrote (08-02-12 15:09) In the same token, there are good ideas in the conditional formatting dialog of the extension report builder (see screenshot). - Up and Down keys to change the order of conditions - Indeed handy ! The plus and minus keys to add - delete conditions

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] calc background colors ...

2012-02-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Kohei Yoshida wrote (15-02-12 17:29) 1. Put a value in cell A1. 2. Move the cursor to A2. 3. Ctrl-D to copy the value of A1 into A2. For me this never worked in Calc .. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] The no border text feature in Writer 3.5 is not complete

2012-02-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, NoOp wrote (17-02-12 05:31) On 02/15/2012 02:44 AM, Jan Holesovsky wrote: The current (3.5) design looked as the best option, was in the daily builds [http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/] for several months, and nobody complained - so we were happy with it; what a pity that you

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] System::Beep() removal

2012-02-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Thomas, Thomas Arnhold wrote (21-02-12 13:20) What do you think, is it save to remove it?! Or would you think this would be a gain in usability? Is it possible for you to polish my crystal bowl a bit, e.g. where do we have those beeps. Just from what pops up in my mind, I think those

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] The no border text feature in Writer 3.5 is not complete

2012-02-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Cedric Bosdonnat wrote (20-02-12 15:47) Don't hesitate to grab a daily build to test it. daily/Linux-x86_10-Release_Configuration/ still missing :-\ Luckily I did a local build yesterday, and while doing my work with that, was catched by the new funcionality. Great solution. Thanks! If

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [UX advise] Key navigation in ValueSet controls

2012-03-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Matteo, Stefan, Great that you care for this, Matteo! And of course that you helped with discussing, Stefan. I'm a bit late: trouble to keep in track with the various topics in the community, but found this important enough to read and try to add some thoughts. Sorry if it is a bit too

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] Mouse centered zooming concept

2012-03-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Tim, Tim Hardeck wrote (22-03-12 16:49) I just wanted to specify some issues I would like to get feedback on: Ah yes, I remember your previous mail, that I was net able to reply on. Since I can read some code, and know the discussion, I could understand your question. But indeed, in

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice-qa] Visual representation of calc borders slightly changed

2012-04-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Markus, Markus Mohrhard wrote (04-04-12 03:11) I just pushed a fix for fdo#33634 to master. :-) Please have a special look at visual appearance, export to pdf, printing, print preview and all areas that you know which use borders. Have found fdo#48377 - possiprolly related ? Cheers,

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] mouse centered scrolling

2012-04-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote (13-04-12 12:30) See the mockup attached for what I would propose. Looks useful and good to me ! On the same subject: my favourite is adding Ctrl-key commands to use zoom-in/out, as in other software. Some notes on that : - UNO:ZOOMIN en UNO:ZOOMOUT already

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] mouse centered scrolling

2012-04-28 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Astron, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote (27-04-12 15:27) Oh, pain... yes, Ctrl-+/- would be really cool. Unfortunately, Excel also seems to use Ctrl-+/- for Insert/Delete Cells. On the other hand, having zoom on Ctrl-[/] would mean, at least for me, that you need to press three keys for

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] mouse centered scrolling

2012-04-28 Thread Cor Nouws
Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote (28-04-12 17:38) Le 28/04/2012 15:27, Regina Henschel a écrit : The position of [ and ] depends on local. A German keyboard has it on AltGr+8 and AltGr+9. Yes. FR kbd has them on AltGr+5 / AltGr+) Thanks Regina and Jean-Francois for this info. Apart from

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] New Templates for LibreOffice

2012-05-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Alex, Alexander Wilms wrote (01-05-12 15:02) I'm Alex and member of the design team. I've created some templates, mostly for Impress. Some of them are uploaded on templates.libreoffice.org and seem to be rather popular. That's cool :-) Would it be possible to replace the old

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] New Templates for LibreOffice

2012-05-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Alex, Alexander Wilms wrote (01-05-12 17:53) Here are the templates I uploaded: I've had issues with Plone, though, which means that not all of them are downloadable. To me, those look great! [...] I think the templates Ubuntu, Green, Glossy and Gray look alright, the other ones look

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Header/Footer widget ...

2012-05-28 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Kendy, Jan Holesovsky wrote (28-05-12 15:43) Not at the very moment, but I suppose this fits a bugfix definition so we still have time to do that for 3.6 :-) When you look at the area, maybe this one can be looked at too? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45959 Regards, --

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Color schemes

2012-07-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Jan Holesovsky wrote (26-07-12 10:33) My reasoning is that I doubt that a user is going to switch between themes just according to her/his mood ;-) [...] [This shouldn't affect the possibility to install an extension that will change the colors.] I have no idea about who uses it, but the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] paste special in LibO calc

2012-07-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Kees, Kees 538 wrote (01-03-12 11:14) I have remark about paste special in calc. When you use paste special in calc all options (accept value) are enabled. You have to disable all options you don't need and enable the value option (if you need this one) Won't it be easier if all options

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] new header / footer click-to-reveal bits ...

2012-08-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Cedric, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote (23-08-12 14:59) No, it's a temporary header/footer... that can just remain if you need it, but should be remove if you clicked there by mistake. OK, that is pretty strait forward. Has also been considered (I do not follow the list closely) to use the click

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] new header / footer click-to-reveal bits ...

2012-08-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (26-08-12 21:08) This because of the nice possibilities that the control offers of course. (Sorry, I've no Debian 32bits snapshot available). OK decided to try a Windoos daily in the VM. And I see that what I write actually is there. Great! (didn't do any thorough testing yet

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Killed the ButtonBar in slide sorter

2012-09-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Kendy, Jan Holesovsky wrote (25-09-12 16:00) Cor Nouws píše v Út 25. 09. 2012 v 14:58 +0200: Hmm, currently the pop-up is the (only?) way to see the name of the slide. How should we think about that? That is not changed currently, as that is a tooltip, and shows outside OK, if that's

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Rename Slide Design

2012-10-27 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Mirek, Olivier, * Mirek M. wrote (25-10-12 21:29) On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Olivier Hallot We only have to enphasize the difference between presentation template and slide template - no you or me, or any knowledgeable LO user - but average user may get confused by

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Need Developer Input about Options

2012-11-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Mirek, *, Mirek M. wrote (24-10-12 23:47) We're in the middle of our option analysis [1] and we'd like to know whether the following options are still needed and, if so, what their use cases are: - Screen font antialiasing (font size from which text should be antialiased) I guess this may

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Need Developer Input about Options

2012-11-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Regina Henschel wrote (02-11-12 12:40) Now that you touch this: In section Print Reduce Print Data the option Reduce gradients: That features is broken https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120890 Suggestion is to remove it totally. Some drawings with gradients do not print for me

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Input about Options WAS Re: Need Developer Input about Options

2012-11-05 Thread Cor Nouws
Mirek M. wrote (02-11-12 01:21) On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl mailto:oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Analyses/Global_Options Is it OK if I add some opinions on that page (again)? Post them here. :) Well, here we go

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [libreoffice-design] Re: Input about Options WAS Re: Need Developer Input about Options

2012-11-09 Thread Cor Nouws
when I do not join, I just trust that my ideas may contribute to discussion/choices. On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Mirek M. wrote (02-11-12 01:21) On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Making conditional formatting dialogs more discoverable

2012-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Alexander, Alexander Wilms wrote (16-11-12 19:15) I don't know how the various teams determine whether something should be part of the default toolbar, but I think it'd be worth it. A Mock-up: http://ubuntuone.com/02DplrrUcydYMOZ4QXr8cW Looks good (as the features do). Am I correct if I

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] color managing in LibO

2012-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi *, Markus Mohrhard wrote (15-11-12 17:42) [...]While one can argue that only a few colors are really necessary it creates big problems in interoperability when you get a document that uses colors that we don't offer. Opening such a document, the color is offered as custom 1 (or such) in

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Default Styles in Writer

2012-11-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Samuel, Initial remark: Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote (23-11-12 17:48) [..] Reasons: * Text body is the same as Default Style, except that it has a margin at the bottom, so I would suggest to remove Default Style from the list. This is not true. Nearly all styles inherit from Default Style. And

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Icons in menus by default

2012-11-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (23-11-12 17:57) There's not so much that I can do in code without a relative huge amount of effort, but this one is well doable. And since I was involved in the discussion, I offer kindly to do this :-) I've created the bug first https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] test

2012-11-26 Thread Cor Nouws
ping .. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Icons in menus by default

2012-11-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (25-11-12 14:29) I've created the bug first https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57510 Someone in the issue says that it's very unusual in Mac. That is something I've no idea about. Others? -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Default Styles in Writer

2012-11-27 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Rafael, * [ First: the paragraphs in your mail shows up in my Thunderbird as one long line. Could you pls check if there is some gmail setting curing that :-) Also: If you have the previous mails replying to them each and preferably in-line, helps me spending less time on mail reading

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] New svtools/uiconfig/ui/restartdialog.ui

2012-11-27 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Stephan, Stephan Bergmann wrote (27-11-12 14:13) Just a heads-up that http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=872d76228fc440d22924b69a391f027dbdc8e693 Introduce a Restart dialog that allows to automatically restart LO introduces a new .ui-style dialog that could probably

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] New Layout for Insert Table Dialog

2012-11-28 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (27-11-12 12:14) Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote (26-11-12 23:11) I renamed the button AutoFormat to Table Styles. I'm not yet convinced that that is appropriate. Although some real improvements have been mate to the feature last year, I think we need to be more careful with renaming

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Scrollbar size minimum

2012-12-08 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Mirek, *, Mirek M. wrote (08-12-12 11:30) I've been using LibreOffice under elementary OS for a while, [...] What should I imagine with elementary OS ? Does that give restrictions compared to my usual Linux desktop? On the other hand, a separate bar for tabs would make working with

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] new listbox in calc options pages

2012-12-08 Thread Cor Nouws
Markus Mohrhard wrote (08-12-12 02:41) Ok, I'll have a look at it. Originally I tried to keep the option inside the Libreoffice Calc group but Load/Save might make sense too. I would go for the first, e.g. Calc Formula as mentioned by someone else. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] new listbox in calc options pages

2012-12-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Markus team ;-) Markus Mohrhard wrote (07-12-12 22:35) Since 4.0 we are able to use the cached values written into OOXML files to prevent a slow recalculation when opening a file. Hoewever Excel and Calc don't always give the same result for formulas so we (Eike, Kohei and me) agreed that

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Advice required on auto text resize (Impress)

2012-12-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, (Having the pleasure to work with it recently, I started to look in my archive for this mail list... ) Stefan Knorr wrote (11-10-12 15:15) so, here's a more constructive try to make the autofit feature better: First thanks for the feature :-) And yes, there is some opportunity to

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

2013-01-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Kendy Jan Holesovsky wrote (07-01-13 11:32) Please let me know if this is acceptable, and if you need any help with the review. Idea looks great to me and is an invitement for futher enhancements in the future :-) I gues the code in a daily from 2012-12-28 (1) is not yet complet? I see

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template Manager: UI to reset the default template

2013-01-09 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Cedric, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote (09-01-13 16:49) Hum, yet another reply to myself... the Gear popup menu has the action to reset the default template. Nice and cool looking developments! However it strikes met that key board functionality is not yet OK (build 2013-01-07). Any idea if that

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template Manager: UI to reset the default template

2013-01-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Cedric, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote (10-01-13 08:40) I'll need help to track these down: I would consider them as bugs. Could you please report a list of the missing things in that area? As far as I can see, everything is missing. File New Templatemanager * Tab - no result * Ctrl+Tab -

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] new listbox in calc options pages

2013-01-12 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (12-12-12 18:11) Kohei Yoshida wrote (12-12-12 14:29) On 12/12/2012 01:32 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: Of course I think it deserves a clear explanation in Help and Release notes, with examples that help users understand whether they should bother at all. But also it looks as a very

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager - the menu entries

2013-01-14 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Cedric, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote (14-01-13 09:30) The idea of a new template manager was to bring the content of that old menu to the users. At least now they don't have to discover that item (too far down in the File Menu) that triggers a sub-menu. Is there a certain position in the menu's

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager - the menu entries

2013-01-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Cedric Cedric Bosdonnat wrote (15-01-13 10:06) On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 20:32 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: [...] And I still see File New .. for editing or managing not as a natural route. Then may be we should find a new Wording for the File New ... menu item. In a not so far future

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager - the menu entries

2013-01-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (15-01-13 13:15) [...] Just below the group Wizards. Since it's only one line, it won't disturb the rest of the menu (since the new item Save as template can be removed). And it will make the features for templates, thus the new dialog, much better visible :-) Hi, Since

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] impress: text color context menu ...

2013-02-27 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Chris, Chris Lord wrote (25-02-13 16:04) [...] - Font colour is now red, bullets remain black. Yes. Bullets/numbering has its own properties ;-) You choose Format Bullets/numbering in the menu, and find out that on the tab Customize you can select the color. (Better is to do that in the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] impress: text color context menu ...

2013-02-27 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (25-02-13 12:06) [...] I assume we should not be offering the correction context menu if we have a selection - to make it possible to right-click change the color eg. of a single technical word ? :-) I agree with that. -- -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Bug 61495 - Backspace behavior

2013-03-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Maciej, Maciej Rumianowski wrote (01-03-13 15:56) I've found a Bug in LibreOffice Writer (61495 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61495) and now I'm trying to fix this. [..] Good idea. For now, I suspect the export code.. goes out of list. I don't know how Office Word react

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Increase MAX_FILTER_ENTRIES in Styles and Formatting dialog

2013-03-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Stefan Knorr wrote (13-03-13 23:09) To be honest, to me it looks like we have too many filters there... Do we know why those were added and who make use of them? If not, let's keep them. In my experience there are always people that use the advanced features - reasons for what they love

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Possible change of Calc option : Expand references when new columns/rows are .. ?

2013-03-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Eike, Eike Rathke wrote (20-03-13 14:36) On Thursday, 2013-03-14 11:25:43 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: Working with users, I quite often have the impression that it's wrong that the setting Tools Options Calc General Expand references when new columns/rows are inserted is set to OFF

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Possible change of Calc option : Expand references when new columns/rows are .. ?

2013-03-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi * mariosv wrote (21-03-13 00:47) I think you point in the appropriate direction. As I can remember, the issue in user forums use to be about how to get this auto-expand. Even more, if was possible to get the row/column formulas from previous row/col in the inserted row/column. Also I think

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Possible change of Writer option : turn 'number recognition' off by default

2013-03-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Changing the default Number recognition to be turned of makes that people are not confronted with numbers that change by them self. So two ways to look at this: a. they do not have to sit with their hands in their hair :-) b. do not get confronted with the idea/possibility that

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Editing external templates

2013-04-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Rafael, Rafael Dominguez wrote (26-03-13 16:45) Since the removal of the old template manager dialog, lots of user have complaining that now they cant open external templates for edit. After talking to Cedric about it we concluded that we have two options: 1.- Add the action to the Template

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Possible change of Writer option : turn 'number recognition' off by default

2013-04-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (31-03-13 01:07) Ideas? Yes, that is has been implemented already many months * ago, but apparently is not always visible for me, since I often drag old user profiles with me ;-) Closing this one. Cor * http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Advise needed: alignment as part of clear direct formatting function

2013-04-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Lior and Navin, Lior Kaplan wrote (04-04-13 14:09) Following the work of Navin (CCed) on fdo#40496 we found out that we need to define the behavior of the clear direct formatting function regarding alignment. At the moment clear direct formatting also clears the text alignment back to the

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager issues pending

2013-05-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Worked myself through the list with template related issues and - apart from all great progress - found a few that are still open. And with 4.1 approaching rapidly... 60589 - [Template manager]: Can not copy styles between different files and templates 61396 - FILEOPEN: [Template

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Change default shortcut of Redo action

2013-05-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Mirek M. wrote (10-05-13 23:16) On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:05 PM, JorenDC joren.libreoff...@telenet.be I verified the behavior of other programs, and I see most of them (randomly: Firefox and on Linux (Mint), Adobe Reader on Windows, Twitter (v2.2.0) and native 'text editor' on Mac OSX,

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Impress : general feed back

2013-05-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michel, Michel RENON wrote (09-05-13 16:11) While working on entrance animations, I also ran an simple test of Impress and found bizarre behaviors : https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr#Impress_4.0_:_urgent_bugs_and_enhancements Thanks for gathering those and writing down. I

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager issues pending

2013-05-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Thanks for the ideas / proposals. Here few additions from me: Cedric Bosdonnat wrote (13-05-13 09:50) Hi Mirek, Michel, On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 10:47 +0200, Mirek M. wrote: 60589 - [Template manager]: Can not copy styles between different files and templates [...] Given that I

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager issues pending

2013-05-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (20-05-13 01:39) only managed to add the checkbox option to the gtk+, kde4 and native dialogs, still pending the windows one and mac, but i dont have access to a mac, so its hard to work on that one. Joren - also in cc here - does have and does some useful patches now

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager issues pending

2013-05-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Joren wrote (20-05-13 02:00) Willing to help: SURE! Able to help ... mmh, I don't know :-). At least I can test on Mac if new patches comes out (or if you have a draft patch I can verify/test it on mac. I'm not sure I can develop something for mac (without bugging other devs to help me out :)

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager issues pending

2013-05-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Rafael Dominguez wrote (20-05-13 04:05) I did the rest of them already, ill push it tomorrow and ill send you a msg after, so you can test it. Wow :) thanks a lot! -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org ___

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager issues pending

2013-05-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Michel Renon wrote (20-05-13 16:25) Well, that was already proposed 2 times in this thread ! ;-) Great that your memory is better then mine :-) Thanks for summarising... It seems to me that a simple dialog before opening template/creating new file is technically much simpler and more

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] study for tool bar labels

2013-05-25 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Not sure if on this list the next has been seen: http://user-prompt.com/tip-the-tool-how-to-label-toolbar-functions/ A nice study by Heiko from User Prompt, of whom I remember Björn from our conferences :) What do the people here think? Could be well possible to use to improve out

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Better colors for LibreOffice

2013-05-25 Thread Cor Nouws
Another nice post I recently saw: http://www.openlogic.com/wazi/bid/289690/A-more-colorful-LibreOffice-unveiled Does the subject 'better colors' belong to the UX list .. ? :) Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org ___

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Better colors for LibreOffice

2013-05-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote (25-05-13 23:44) On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Does the subject 'better colors' belong to the UX list .. ? :) Oh yes. Thanks for pointing that useful article out. It really moves LibreOffice out of the 90s :-) Now I did

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager issues pending

2013-05-27 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi ... Would be really lovely to get some more feed back on the mail from last week! Cor Cor Nouws wrote (20-05-13 01:36) Hi all, Thanks for the ideas / proposals. Here few additions from me: \ -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager issues pending

2013-05-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Rafael Dominguez wrote (20-05-13 04:05) I did the rest of them already, ill push it tomorrow and ill send you a msg after, so you can test it. Hi Rafael, Just to make sure that I didn't miss anything: did you already have a change to push the work? Kind regards, Cor -- - Cor -

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Template manager issues pending

2013-05-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Cor Nouws wrote (20-05-13 01:36) Cedric Bosdonnat wrote (13-05-13 09:50) On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 10:47 +0200, Mirek M. wrote: I'm not the best person to design for the dialog. Still I find this design from you :) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Proposed White Board Status - UX

2013-06-03 Thread Cor Nouws
. Are there experiences from other teams with such tags? E.g. do they find them easy to remember, how/when do they make use of the tags... Thanks, Cor -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member ___ Libreoffice

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-04 Thread Cor Nouws
the Sidebar: for eating space and for promoting bad habits :( it's clear that I would rather see support for the use of styles. So I mocked up a little version with various style categories shown at the same time. Would appreciate your ideas :) thanks ciao, Cor -- - Cor Nouws - http

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Cor Nouws
for your ideas, Cor -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo

[Libreoffice-ux-advise] LO's styles are more confusing then MSO's (Was Re: some thoughts on the Sidebar)

2013-09-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi David, dollyp wrote (06-09-13 23:11) snip Direct formatting is less effective than using styles but LO's styles are if anything more confusing to the average user than MSO's. Hmm. would you mind to explain why that is the case, in your opinion? thanks, Cor -- - Cor Nouws - http

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Cor Nouws
button bar. So you could be able to reopen the panel you need with one click. Currently, you need to reopen the Sidebar then click the panel button. [Thanks to Regina for answering this ;) ] Ciao! Cor -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-09-18 Thread Cor Nouws
. But I agree that there is a real opportunity for improving, thanks to the side bar! Cheers, Cor -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Cor Nouws
and is a key part of iWork. Cheers, Cor PS See you in Milan? -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-09-18 Thread Cor Nouws
on the UX list on the side bar is to be found here http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-ux-advise/2013-September/002323.html -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member ___ Libreoffice-ux

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-18 Thread Cor Nouws
See you in Milan? Yes, I hope so. :) :) - good to continue part of the conversation while looking at the screen! thanks best, Cor -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member ___ Libreoffice-ux

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Patch review for change of shortcut

2013-09-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Markus, Markus Mohrhard wrote (20-09-13 05:11) https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/5985/1 Thanks for asking. I say yes! (It's for https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67159 Danny didn't mention the bug number in the commit message.) Cheers, -- - Cor Nouws - http

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] some thoughts on the Sidebar

2013-09-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Jean-Fraincois, * [ picking up this thread, now/as far as time allows ] Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote (19-09-13 07:14) Le 18/09/2013 17:16, Cor Nouws a écrit : It would be my strong, very strong, preference to make controls for direct formatting hidden, far hidden, and clearly show

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LO's styles are more confusing then MSO's (Was Re: some thoughts on the Sidebar)

2013-09-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi David, dollyp wrote (18-09-13 18:38) Cor Nouws wrote I'm being very subjective here. I considered I was a master of using styles in MSO Word but I found it confusing moving to LO Writer. I acknowledge that as a concept styles should be used for everything and so it's perhaps

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