[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 100100] Emoji toolbar control

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Bug 100100 depends on bug 144348, which changed state.

Bug 144348 Summary: Remove bundled emoji font
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144348

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Bug 100100 depends on bug 105689, which changed state.

Bug 105689 Summary: Emoji toolbar button (bug 100100 emoji.json implementation) 
not functional on Windows
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105689

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 100100] Emoji toolbar control

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--- Comment #17 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Gerry from comment #16)
> Will the Emoji toolbar be still marked as experimental in LibreOffice 6.3? I
> hope that this feature has gotten into the standard features. Thanks

No way, the control is not ready! 

@Samuel, I know Akshay has moved on since his excellent work GSOC 2016/2017 but
the main thing keeping us from bringing this out of experimental is its
complete failure on Windows builds--ref bug 105689 The thumbnail views of each
emoji's glyph are not rendered to the grouped frame.

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--- Comment #16 from Gerry  ---
Will the Emoji toolbar be still marked as experimental in LibreOffice 6.3? I
hope that this feature has gotten into the standard features. Thanks

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--- Comment #15 from V Stuart Foote  ---
*** Bug 119095 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 100100] Emoji toolbar control

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Bug 100100 depends on bug 102271, which changed state.

Bug 102271 Summary: Emoji drop-down menu is empty
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--- Comment #14 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
Additional fixes that need to be done are listed in this google doc.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MuP_rU2l7YSNAGqFSIb90a_NH05RzPY_gIsGK2Q3j40/edit?usp=sharing

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 100100] Emoji toolbar control

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Bug 100100 depends on bug 101511, which changed state.

Bug 101511 Summary: Crash when clicking emoji group button
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101511

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
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--- Comment #13 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
(In reply to Luke from comment #12)
> In Windows 10, when I click on the "Emojis" button, Writer instantly
> crashes. Has this been tested on OS X and Windows?

Yes its reported in bug 101511.

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--- Comment #12 from Luke  ---
In Windows 10, when I click on the "Emojis" button, Writer instantly crashes.
Has this been tested on OS X and Windows?

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--- Comment #11 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
So akshay has began working on this with the following merged patch. The button
is hidden in the standard toolbar.

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/26700/

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--- Comment #10 from jonathon  ---
Rather than an emoji only toolbar, ensure that bug 34882
(https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34882) is fixed.

Emoji are simply a special case of the issue described at
Really basic missing features and enhancements >  Insert Special Characters ->
Recent Characters (
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Really_basic_missing_features_and_enhancements#Insert_Special_Characters_-.3E_Recent_Characters
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--- Comment #9 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Luke from comment #8)
> If you want to have a section of Emoji-like graphics in the galley, that's
> fine. But we should not call it emoji. Right now I can text a message with
> emoji from an Android to an iOS device, and copy that into a web browser to
> post in a forum. Every app in the process treats the emoji as a character
> and handles it naively. Our gallery "emoji" would not work into this flow. 
> 
> If we’re going to join the party, let’s do it properly, and universally by
> treating them as unicode characters. This way content that we generate will
> be universal and work well with all the other mobile and web software that
> supports emoji.

But that is my point, we already handle them correctly in the framework for the
Special Character dialog and with the Autocorrect based keyboard entry of the
"Emoji" string. To manipulate as Unicode glyphs within streams of text -- that
belongs within the Special Character framework or the Autocorrect entry.

For use as "graphics" with a limited selection of artwork -- those should go
into the Gallery, or another content panel of the Sidebar (to allow search by
codepoint, name or "Emoji" string). Placed into the Gallery they would only be
graphics. But you still have to organize them in some sense--why not use the
Unicode blocks of codepoints and naming?

Really in that context the only thing that remains Emoji about them is the
Unicode codepoint and glyph they'd represent.

Would also suggest that the localized "Emoji" entries in the Autocorrect tables
should probably be used to localize the names/labels of glyphs in both GUI
contexts and extend Special Character and Gallery to make use of the values for
search.

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--- Comment #7 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Certainly there are options here. Emoji as glyphs for Unicode code points are
present in font families as single OpenType and TTF characters.  Those should
remain the primary treatment--responding to font selection methods
(autocorrect, Alt+x toggle, and Special Character dialgo) and allowing size,
color and selection of any other face the font supports.

Probably best that we not try to use Gallery to hold font glyphs. Too
unwieldy--and which font?  But Gallery is not "Bitmap" only, and as most Emoji
are designed and published as SVG by Unicode codepoint, a selection of SVG
rendering of the Emoji graphics could certainly be added to Gallery.

Perhaps the Creative Commons (CC BY 4.0) Emoji art offerings from EmojiOne
might be a good source? 

http://emojione.com/wp-content/uploads/assets/e1-svg.zip  

Organizationally it would be simple to add some subset to the Gallery--just
stick with the Unicode codepoint as name (Unicode character name as
annotation), and group by Unicode block.

Would have to decide which blocks. Maybe "Miscellaneous Symbols and
Pictographs", "Emoticons", "Ornamental Dingbats",  "Transport and Map Symbols"
all from the SMP. Based on availability and quality of the SVG to go into the
Gallery.

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--- Comment #6 from Luke  ---
Emojis are Unicode characters. If I insert an emoji, I want it to remain a
character, unless I explicitly convert it to a bitmap. The galley should only
be used for bitmap images. Mixing up these concepts seems like it would lead to
confusion, bugs, and low quality output. Having the option to convert Emojis to
bitmap is OK, but it should not be the default behavior.

I'd like to see a new dialog box to handle Emojis separately, although V
Stuart's idea would work too.

OS X, Windows, and Android all have native support for emoji. I’d also like to
see us use those glyphs whenever possible.

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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) from comment #4)
> > Character sets contains of a variation of emojis?
> Can you please explain what you want to say here? I don't get it.

I wasn't aware that Unicode is bloated by that much emojis
(http://unicode.org/emoji/charts/). 

I would still show them in the Gallery. This approach has the advantage of
being independent from the character set chosen by the user. And most likely
emojis are expected there. However, Stuart's idea to have a filter for the
special character widget sounds good as well. That could be implemented with
the new design for this dialog
(http://user-prompt.com/libreoffice-design-session-special-character/).

In general I'm not excited about the idea. My hesitation comes from the fact
that we should keep the toolbar clean. Only the most frequently used functions
have to be there. And the use case of emojis is rather a chat, meaning an auto
conversion from :-) into the respective symbol at the comments makes sense.

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--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> What's wrong with the gallery? What is the use case - that frequently
> happens as it should become a toolbar items? Character sets contains of a
> variation of emojis?

The emoji can be either glyphs from a font family by Unicode codepoint, or
could be a full color graphic linked to the same.

Currently we have a selection defined [1] for the auto-correct based tables
used for keyboard emoji entry. It places the glyph variant for the currently
active font (or fallback font) by Unicode codepoint. And the font can be
styled.

But there are literally hundreds of symbols to be drawn from as "emoji"
described on the multiple Unicode pages, so yes they might work OK from the
Gallery--but which ones?

Suppose we could start with the 900 or so László chose, but think that might be
overwhelming in a gallery format.

=-ref-=
[1]
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=d3c12e22aafd30387a20b437d956cafead314ec1

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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
What's wrong with the gallery? What is the use case - that frequently happens
as it should become a toolbar items? Character sets contains of a variation of
emojis?

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--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Great idea!

Perhaps a check box/radio button selection to filter the Special Character
dialog?

Also, as majority of Emoji are assigned codepoints described in the Unicode
supplementary multilingual plane (SMP), we have issues in displaying emoji with
BMP default Liberation Serif. 

And font fallback substitution to use SMP has been a mess of late.

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