[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102203] UI: Command Insert > Page Number is confusing (in relation to also existing choice, at different place, to show/hide Master page Elements)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102203 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com |.freedesktop.org| Keywords|needsUXEval | Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze --- Meanwhile (6.1) , Page Number was removed from the Insert menu in favor of Slide Number, which is duplicated under Field (don't like this and would remove it). So I'd close the issue as WFM. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102203] UI: Command Insert > Page Number is confusing ( in relation to also existing choice, at different place, to show/ hide Master page Elements)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102203 Regina Henschel changed: What|Removed |Added CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de --- Comment #7 from Regina Henschel --- The page number can be shown using a field or using a presentation class. This is given in file format and cannot be restricted to one or the other. The users needs the ability to work on a presentation regardless which kind of page number it contains. Suggestions: Add the dialog to "Slides" instead of the "Master Elements" dialog. (Problems with dialog Master Elements are in bug 112327.) Title it "Manage Master Elements". Remove "Insert > Page number" and "Insert Header and Footer", which both go this dialog, see bug 104088. [I personal do not like the current dialog design, because it mixes working on a single slide with working on the master slide. But that is a different topic.] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102203] UI: Command Insert > Page Number is confusing ( in relation to also existing choice, at different place, to show/ hide Master page Elements)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102203 Yousuf Philips (jay) changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10 ||4088 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102203] UI: Command Insert > Page Number is confusing ( in relation to also existing choice, at different place, to show/ hide Master page Elements)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102203 Cor Nouws changed: What|Removed |Added Version|5.1.0.0.alpha0+ Master |Inherited From OOo Summary|UI: Command Insert > Page |UI: Command Insert > Page |Number is confusing (in |Number is confusing (in |relation to also exiting|relation to also existing |choice, at different place, |choice, at different place, |to show/hide Master page|to show/hide Master page |Elements) |Elements) --- Comment #6 from Cor Nouws --- to add some things I notice: - The preview, right in the Dialog Insert > Header and Footer - does hide master page elements that are not available (by the menu Slide > Master Page Elements) - does show elements that are selected in the dialog black, and gray if not A first idea: a label with the preview: "position / available master page elements" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102203] UI: Command Insert > Page Number is confusing ( in relation to also exiting choice, at different place, to show/ hide Master page Elements)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102203 Cor Nouws changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|UI - Command Insert / Page |UI: Command Insert > Page |Number is confusing |Number is confusing (in ||relation to also exiting ||choice, at different place, ||to show/hide Master page ||Elements) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102203] UI - Command Insert / Page Number is confusing
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102203 --- Comment #5 from bureautiqueli...@nantesmetropole.fr --- Hi Cor, Thanks for the 2 posts, makes the logic of the feature clear now: I didn't see the Designer and User point of view before. So yes, clarification is needed in the UI/Dialog to better reflect it, Regards, Eric Ficheux -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102203] UI - Command Insert / Page Number is confusing
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102203 Cor Nouws changed: What|Removed |Added Hardware|x86-64 (AMD64) |All Version|5.1.5.2 release |5.1.0.0.alpha0+ Master OS|Windows (All) |All --- Comment #4 from Cor Nouws --- so the rationale is that it's a design decision whether or not to allow a page number on a type of slide (master page) and a user decision whether or not to use it. Help says (on top of the page) "Adds or changes text in placeholders at the top and the bottom of slides and slide masters." I do not see a reference to the choice given to show/hide master elements (Slide > Master elements). Maybe the UI / dialog could make that link clear? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102203] UI - Command Insert / Page Number is confusing
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102203 Cor Nouws changed: What|Removed |Added CC||c...@nouenoff.nl --- Comment #3 from Cor Nouws --- (In reply to bureautiquelibre from comment #0) > > IMHO, the feature should be moved in another menu, maybe display (or format) > since it doesn't insert anything and perhaps the name changed for something > more explicit. Hi Eric, The menu allows to insert a page number (and a field 'date time' (or foo) and a field title), when I didn't add this type of content before. So 'Insert' makes sense from that perspective? OTOH, indeed there is a hidden relation with "Slide > Master elements" (In version 3.3.0.4 it was 'hidden' in View > Model > Master Elements) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102203] UI - Command Insert / Page Number is confusing
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102203 --- Comment #2 from bureautiqueli...@nantesmetropole.fr --- Hi, The following is only my opinion: Killing this menu entry in favor of the master slides seems to me the best for the following reasons: * The Insert/Page Number adds no additional feature: the same results can be achieved by working on the master slides directly. * Dealing with the master slides or master notes (don't know if it's the right name in English) looks easy to understand, it's straightforward: you see the item/field on the master slide, it displays on the slides, if it isn't there, it doesn't display on the slides. * The feature adds unnecessary complexity to how master slides work: to figure out if your page number will display, it must be in master slide AND enabled in the page number dialog ... seems a bit complicated for the average user who could easily think it's a bug. It also makes master slides confusing since you can get a result different than what is displayed in the master slides view. Regards, Eric -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102203] UI - Command Insert / Page Number is confusing
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102203 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||needsUXEval Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze --- So we could disable the menu entry when the master has no page field or we change the master, perhaps after confirmation. Or this menu entry gets kill in favor of the master slide. But nothing works really well. Ideas? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
