[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-11-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #22 from Heiko Tietze  ---
*** Bug 138035 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #21 from Dieter  ---
There's the same question for character style dialog (see bug 138035)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-09-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #20 from Regina Henschel  ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #19)
> About the reset button
> Not really opinion about what what to do with the Reset button. Reset button
> doesn't work as expected in a number of cases (likely more to be discovered)
> * Press Apply & followed by reset doesn't work.

The purpose of the "Reset" button is to bring the _dialog_ into the state it
had, when opening the dialog. It has nothing to do with the document.

I think it is a question for accessibility whether to remove the "Reset"
button. The position of the "Reset" button is well known and the same in a lot
of dialogs, it is easily accessible with arrow keys. The alternative is to
cancel the dialog and reopen it. How easy is the latter for handicapped people?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-09-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #19 from Telesto  ---
Standard -> Parent style/ inherited style


About the reset button
Not really opinion about what what to do with the Reset button. Reset button
doesn't work as expected in a number of cases (likely more to be discovered)
* Press Apply & followed by reset doesn't work. 
* Press Reset in Area tab doesn't work etc.. 
* Reset in transparency tab doesn't work (after setting area fill & some
transparency)
* Table Properties -> Text flow tab & check break & select a style & press
Reset


It's slightly bloating the dialog, and confusion with they 'standard' button
(which should be renamed anyhow).

So removing the reset button has some advantages :-). Or someone has to fix a
number of issues someday.. No strong option on that.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-09-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #18 from Heiko Tietze  ---
*** Bug 136340 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-08-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-02-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-02-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-01-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-01-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-01-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-01-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #17 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
A relevant suggestion from bug #58132 

"Reset" button should be greyed if there is nothing to reset.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2020-01-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-12-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #15)
> But if the user can change the setting of the "parent" style (if I have
> understood the implications of comment #10, then I would propose "revert to
> parent" (or if too long, then "Use Parent" might be ok)

Or just "Revert" and some more informative tooltip.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-12-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-12-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-12-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-12-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
Not finding documentation in the help, and before finding this bug, I made some
experiments to figure out how "reset" and "standard" might work. 

Based on that experience, plus reading the discussion, here are a few comments.

1. Use-case for Reset:  Because there is a preview function in the side bar, it
is quite practical to (for example) change the font in the default style and
see the effects in the different styles.  And still be able to "reset" back to
where you started (without having to close and reopen the window).

2.  Note that LO Writer 6.0 Guide (p. 192) says:

"If you want to reset the properties of a child style to that of the parent
style, click the Standard button located at the bottom of each Paragraph and
Character style dialog."

(I could not see that the guide discussed the "reset" button, but maybe this
sentence shows a "natural" expectation that "Standard" resets -- which suggests
a value in not using both "reset" and "standard" -- or a need to change the
Guide.)

3.  "Undo" is not such a bad alternative for "reset"  for it functions like a
Ctrl-Z  (or users will just have to learn what "reset" does -- if is gets
documented.)

4.  About "Standard" vs. "Use Parent" 

>From a user perspective, I would propose:  use "Standard" if it means "the
setting goes back to the "factory setting" (i.e, the way a fresh LO
installation would have it.)  

But if the user can change the setting of the "parent" style (if I have
understood the implications of comment #10, then I would propose "revert to
parent" (or if too long, then "Use Parent" might be ok)

5.  As pointed out in comment #13, these buttons appear for all the tabs in the
dialog box.  I have not tested them, but would they apply only to settings in a
tab?  or to all the settings across all the tabs?  This might also be relevant
in the documentation.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-12-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128469

--- Comment #14 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to John from comment #13)
> I think it will be OK that pressing this button will simply does nothing.

That requires the button to be disabled. Doing nothing is not an option. 

> Notice that "Standard" button is currently located on all the tabs of the
> Style window, including the "Organizer" tab, though on "Organizer" tab it
> does nothing.

The button is on the footer and thereby not related to the tabs. It applies to
the Organizer by changing the relation and detailed description.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from John  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #12)
> Some styles do not have a parent. What about "Original style"?

I believe you mean "Default Style".

I think it will be OK that pressing this button will simply does nothing.

Notice that "Standard" button is currently located on all the tabs of the Style
window, including the "Organizer" tab, though on "Organizer" tab it does
nothing.

In other words, this behavior will not be something new.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #10)
> "Parent style" is good. "Default" is not so good, because the parent need
> not be the default. Or instead of "Parent style", which can also mean a
> copy, perhaps "Use Parent".
Some styles do not have a parent. What about "Original style"?

(Would be handy if for e.g. those buttons there would always appear a
tooltip..)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from John  ---
> Use Parent

I like it more than "Parent style because it's "verb", not "noun". Thus, it is
consistent with "Reset" and "Apply", which are verbs too.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Regina Henschel  ---
"Parent style" is good. "Default" is not so good, because the parent need not
be the default. Or instead of "Parent style", which can also mean a copy,
perhaps "Use Parent".

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Dieter Praas  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> For Standard I could imagine "Default" or "Parent Style".

I support this, because I suppose, that most of the users don't know the
meaning of "Standard"

We also have "Reset" in all other style dialogs and and "Standard" in Character
and Frame dialog. There should be consistency.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Regina Henschel  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> Proposals to rename are so far:
> 
>  Reset--> Revert
>  Standard --> Reset

That produces confusion. The user rightly expects the "Reset" button to do the
same as in previous versions.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from John  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)

Reset--> Undo or Clear or some
Standard --> Reset

?

My main point is that Standard should be changed to Reset. Because this is what
the user expect, I believe.

The new name for Reset button is a question.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Proposals to rename are so far:

 Reset--> Revert
 Standard --> Reset

An alternative to "Revert" could be "Unapply" (worse term though). But I don't
like those over-sophisticated terms, It's not easier to understand for users
who don't read this ticket. If we keep Apply best antonym is Reset. 

For Standard I could imagine "Default" or "Parent Style".

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Cor Nouws  ---
IIRC, this has been discussed. Or the HELP for the buttons has been improved
recently... In any case: good that you support the idea of better wording /
popup, John.
Removing honestly is no option..

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from John  ---
Well, to be honest I regret about my idea to remove the "Reset" button. It
works in symmetry with "Apply" button - and therefore, to preserve the
consistency, it should be preserved. 

However, the names are not perfect. I would rather suggest to think about the
better names - and nothing more.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Regina Henschel  ---
The "Standard" button is currently the only way to remove a setting in the
style, so that the inherit setting is used. It must stay until a different
solution is implemented and tested.

It should be possible, to cancel and reopen the dialog instead of the "Reset"
button. But I don't know whether it works. The problem is, that touching a
field will produce an entry of that value to the style, but when? Is there no
entry if "Reset" is used? Is there no entry if "Cancel" is used?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128469

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Reset should revert all modifications you made while the dialog is open. But
admittedly it has a very limited use-case. And if we talk about this I don't
see much need to reset style settings to the parent and if we remove the Reset
function we should consider the same for Standard.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 128469] PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG: "Reset" and "Standard" buttons: confusing names

2019-10-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128469

Dieter Praas  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de,
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Summary|UI: "Reset" and "Standard"  |PARAGRAPH STYLE DIALOG:
   |buttons: confusing names|"Reset" and "Standard"
   ||buttons: confusing names
   Keywords||needsUXEval
 Blocks||107833

--- Comment #1 from Dieter Praas  ---
(In reply to John from comment #0)
> Description:
> The style window have 2 buttons with very similar names: Standard and Reset.

I assume, you mean paragraph style dialog => I precisd bug title

> * Standard: resets the settings of the style to those of parent style
> * Reset: works very similar to Cancel. The only difference that it doesn't
> close the window.

I don't know the function of that buttons and I couldn't find informations in
help

cc: Design Team for further input


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107833
[Bug 107833] [META] Writer paragraph style bugs and enhancements
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