[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149944] Base: Dialog for User Administration couldn't be resized - too small when translated to German to show all buttons

2022-07-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149944

--- Comment #8 from Commit Notification 
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Adolfo Jayme Barrientos committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/d75c5c1f61a174b3b333e9db6536ab15cc37d00b

tdf#149944 Do away with some excessive, unwarranted horizontal spacing

It will be available in 7.5.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149944] Base: Dialog for User Administration couldn't be resized - too small when translated to German to show all buttons

2022-07-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149944

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149944] Base: Dialog for User Administration couldn't be resized - too small when translated to German to show all buttons

2022-07-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149944

--- Comment #7 from Adolfo Jayme Barrientos  ---
As a first step before a full redesign, we can implement
https://community.documentfoundation.org/t/proposal-remove-12-px-left-margin-from-all-gtkframes/6896
for this dialog and shave 36 pixels off the button row.

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/137642

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149944] Base: Dialog for User Administration couldn't be resized - too small when translated to German to show all buttons

2022-07-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149944

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Alex Thurgood from comment #5)
> ... at least with regard to the permissions grid, we have an example 
> of a control which exceeds the designed width.

Yes, that's true. The dialog has some other issues too such as no proper
padding and the dropdown is somehow cut off at left for me (can see just *LIC).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149944] Base: Dialog for User Administration couldn't be resized - too small when translated to German to show all buttons

2022-07-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149944

--- Comment #5 from Alex Thurgood  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)


> We decided to make dialogs non-resizable as they are controlled by the
> content. However, if the dialog provides controls with user input that might
> exceed the designed width or height, eg. lists, edit fields etc., the dialog
> should be resizable.
> 
> 
> This particular dialog can easily have the proper size. My personal
> preference from c2 is to go with icon-only buttons right of the dropdown.


I understand the rationale, but in this case, at least with regard to the
permissions grid, we have an example of a control which exceeds the designed
width. That would probably need addressing as well.

Other UIs, e.g. MySQLWorkbench (not that I'm citing that as an example of best
practice, but certainly an example of one current practice), proposes a grid
control with vertically organized choices (tick box), rather than horizontal.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149944] Base: Dialog for User Administration couldn't be resized - too small when translated to German to show all buttons

2022-07-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149944

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Alex Thurgood from comment #3)
> Unfortunately, this behaviour isn't consistent across the UI.

>From https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/PropertyDialog:

Dialogs should work with a size of 800 × 600 pixels and should not be
resizable. Take care about high resolution displays (i.e. QXGA and more).

We decided to make dialogs non-resizable as they are controlled by the content.
However, if the dialog provides controls with user input that might exceed the
designed width or height, eg. lists, edit fields etc., the dialog should be
resizable.


This particular dialog can easily have the proper size. My personal preference
from c2 is to go with icon-only buttons right of the dropdown.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149944] Base: Dialog for User Administration couldn't be resized - too small when translated to German to show all buttons

2022-07-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149944

--- Comment #3 from Alex Thurgood  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Dialogs are non-resizable by design. We could adjust the width depending on
> content or get rid of the awkward buttons and have all in a menu button next
> to the dropdown. Or go with icon-only buttons.

Unfortunately, this behaviour isn't consistent across the UI.

For example, when comparing a Calc document, the changes dialog *is* resizable,
and IMHO, it is good that it is, as trying to resize columns to get everything
to fit in a preconstrained space, or else using the horizontal scroller is a
PITA, especially, as in the case of the current dialog, if you move to right to
see the users rights and permissions with the horizontal scrollbar, you lose
sight of the table for which you are consulting/adjusting the permissions. That
is not a user friendly experience at all, especially when you might have 50 or
so tables with only slight variations in the table name (as is frequent in real
world applications).


I'm also not a big fan of simplifying down to the icon level only because this
is highly dependent on how people see, visualise and understand graphical
representations.

I suppose having a menu button might be one way to simplify things, but I'm
always concerned that the user of the interface ends up making more mouse
movements than before, and would that really simplify things for keyboard only
users as well?

If I want to navigate that dialog with the keyboard, I can tab key through the
buttons in sequence to get to where I want to and press enter on the
highlighted key (or other UI component) to execute. If we add an "Action"
button with a dropdown menu, then not only do I have to tab to the button, I
then also have to key down (or up assuming both directions are allowed) to
select the action I want to execute leading to the opening of the follow-on
dialog.

Honestly, I don't know what's best here, and it still doesn't solve the issue
of the horizontal scrolling / absence of resizable dialog.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149944] Base: Dialog for User Administration couldn't be resized - too small when translated to German to show all buttons

2022-07-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149944

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Dialogs are non-resizable by design. We could adjust the width depending on
content or get rid of the awkward buttons and have all in a menu button next to
the dropdown. Or go with icon-only buttons.

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