[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 88038] WRITER WEB: handling of inserted images -- data URI embedding as base64 for email support, broke LO as HTML editor (comment 7)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 88038] WRITER WEB: handling of inserted images -- data URI embedding as base64 for email support, broke LO as HTML editor (comment 7)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 88038] WRITER WEB: handling of inserted images -- data URI embedding as base64 for email support, broke LO as HTML editor (comment 7)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 88038] WRITER WEB: handling of inserted images -- data URI embedding as base64 for email support, broke LO as HTML editor (comment 7)

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V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu changed:

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   Keywords||regression
   Priority|medium  |high
 CC||vasily.melenc...@cib.de
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   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63
   ||211
Summary|WRITER WEB: handling of |WRITER WEB: handling of
   |inserted images -- data URI |inserted images -- data URI
   |embedding as base64 for |embedding as base64 for
   |email support, broke LO as  |email support, broke LO as
   |HTML editor |HTML editor (comment 7)

--- Comment #13 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
Writer Web as a functional HTML editor has been missed!

@Vasily, if as Luke suggests in bug 48887 you are revisiting generation of
HTML-- rather than a simple revert of Ciorba's work to embed all images into
HTML as base64--could we test for mail merge and only embed in that case? Then
retain linked images within a Writer editable HTML.

@Ciorba Edmond you still with us?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 88038] WRITER WEB: handling of inserted images -- data URI embedding as base64 for email support, broke LO as HTML editor

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--- Comment #11 from e...@emilkirkegaard.dk ---
I would just like to add that this bug is very annoying for me. I use
LibreOffice to write scientific publications in and I want to export them to a
website. Due to the embedding, this is not currently feasible in an easy way,
either save as HTML or export to HTML.

My work around involves pasting into Wordpress which will then convert it.

If possible, I would like to know when a fix can be implemented?

Related problems:
Bug 87485 - Writer: embedded PNG results in slow scrolling 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org//show_bug.cgi?id=87485

Bug 48887 - FILESAVE: Save as HTML in Writer should not embed images 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org//show_bug.cgi?id=48887

I think the embedding is causing the extreme slowdown of scrolling. It is so
bad that I cannot edit my 60 page paper on my weak laptop (Linux Mint 17.1,
64bit) but only on my desktop (Win 8.1, 64bit).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 88038] WRITER WEB: handling of inserted images -- data URI embedding as base64 for email support, broke LO as HTML editor

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--- Comment #12 from Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com ---
We never give ETA's - this is a volunteer project, your options:

1) Fix it yourself;
2) Pay for a fix;
3) Find a friend/family member to fix it;
4) Wait...and it could be a long time (we have thousands of bug reports open
and in the grand scheme this one isn't that serious)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 88038] WRITER WEB: handling of inserted images -- data URI embedding as base64 for email support, broke LO as HTML editor

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--- Comment #10 from Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net ---
I absolutely agree with Jay, the data URI shouldn't be used per default.

- It's definitely not the standard in the web.
- Supporting it is not mandatory as per the HTML standards. Many browsers don't
support it.
- It's really a crude hack anyway, as it blows up the data size extremely.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 88038] WRITER WEB: handling of inserted images -- data URI embedding as base64 for email support, broke LO as HTML editor

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V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||edmond_cio...@yahoo.com,
   ||owen.ge...@gmail.com,
   ||tima...@gmail.com,
   ||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
Version|4.2.6.3 release |4.2.0.0.alpha0+ Master
   See Also||https://bugs.freedesktop.or
   ||g/show_bug.cgi?id=79730
Summary|WRITER WEB: Inserted image  |WRITER WEB: handling of
   |should default to insert as |inserted images -- data URI
   |link|embedding as base64 for
   ||email support, broke LO as
   ||HTML editor

--- Comment #7 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
Lets rest the Summary WRITER WEB: handling of inserted images -- data URI
embedding as base64 for email support, broke LO as HTML editor

That is the issue--so now what to do from Design / UX perspective.

Is LO functional for an intended use?  For emailing a document as HTML,
embedded is much more functional, convenient, and *is* the norm. So a yes
there.

But, it looks like we went too far in correcting bug 63211 -- MAILMERGE:
looses embedded image when e-mailing as html. See the commit and its help:

fdo#63211 - embed images in HTML export
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=
5dd1b3da57862a6577717544dde56482add89170

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/help/commit/?id=59090e419fef3a6ec7a5270585d72312dafb78d2

Michael Stahl called it in
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79730#c6

it looks like this commit will unconditionally(!) write the
images as embedded base64-encoded, regardless of whether
it is set as an embedded or linked image, and thus introduced
this regression

As a result we have bug 48887 and dup bug 79370

So, while the default of always embedding images (as data URL -- RFC 2397) is
not technically incorrect (I actually prefer to embed) unfortunately it has
broken the use of Writer Web's HTML source editor mode as it does not present
the data URI of the image, nor show its insertion point.

I've no problem with the default handling of images in ODF documents converted
to HTML being to embed them. But there should be working options for the
insertion of graphics into HTML documents by relative links or internet URI
(RFC 1808). 

Perhaps even give a user a configuration option to make inserting links their
preferred handling in all ODF converted to HTML. The HTML view editor
formatting, of linked images rather than embedded, has been lost since early in
the 4.2 cycle with HTML refactoring for fdo#63211.

And that absolutely needs to be corrected--in some fashion.

Most would agree that Writer's Web HTML editor is long overdue for rework--to
again make LibreOffice's HTML markup editing mode fully functional and regain
relevance as an HTML/XHTML editor. 

Design and UX functional goal should be to edit HTML 4  5 of various
structure, and support in-line CSS, and of course should expose any embedded
data URI.

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--- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #7)
Going to need new eyes (or stronger glasses I guess) that is bug 79730 not
79370
s/79370/79730/
s/rest/reset/

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