Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Use of Navigation Toolbar

2013-12-10 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt

Hi,

Am 10.12.2013 08:16, schrieb Cor Nouws:
I disagree with the latter ;) - as explained those are used. 
I didn't want to say that the Navigator is undocumented and confusing. I 
wanted to say that I first thought the Navigation toolbar has something 
to do with the Navigator. That was confusing to me.
But for the Navigation Toolbar: I've never seen any use of it (which 
does nos say everything, but still..). Maybe it's a remainder from the 
time that StarOffice had some integrated desktop and such?? Cheers, 
Maybe? If I was to decide, I would remove this. But I know there are 
other opinions, so I don't want to take any action here unless there are 
no voices against this.


Samel
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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Use of Navigation Toolbar

2013-12-10 Thread pierre-yves . samyn
Hi

 Message du 10/12/13 09:43
  But for the Navigation Toolbar: I've never seen any use of it (which
  does nos say everything, but still..). Maybe it's a remainder from the
  time that StarOffice had some integrated desktop and such?? Cheers,
 Maybe? If I was to decide, I would remove this. But I know there are
 other opinions, so I don't want to take any action here unless there are
 no voices against this.


I remembered this bar was introduced in version 3.4.1.
I had tested and had recovered two bugs (fdo#38436  fdo#38433).

The problem was already, at the time, the lack of documentation and
specifications making it difficult to test.

It seems to me that Rainer had raised the issue on lists (dev?): no answer...

AFAIK this bar is not used.

I would remindĀ  that my proposal to remove the navigation buttons of
the vertical scroll bar was to replace this currently unused bar.

Sorry, I missed the survey (no connection during this period).
I'm just a little disappointed because today's questions about this bar
show that my proposal had not been fully studied... It does not matter
since it seems that a majority has been found.

Regards
Pierre-Yves
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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Use of Navigation Toolbar

2013-12-10 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt


Am 10.12.2013 11:01, schrieb pierre-yves.sa...@laposte.net:


Sorry, I missed the survey (no connection during this period).
I'm just a little disappointed because today's questions about
this bar
show that my proposal had not been fully studied... It does not
matter
since it seems that a majority has been found.


Well, your proposal to create a new toolbar was also in the Survey.

Concerning the History feature you suggest to remove the toolbar and 
add History navigation as  another option to the Navigation floating 
window, right?


Well, that would make some sense. Better than leave it where it is IMO.
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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Use of Navigation Toolbar

2013-12-10 Thread pierre-yves . samyn
 Message du 10/12/13 17:12
 De : Samuel Mehrbrodt
 Well, your proposal to create a new toolbar was also in the Survey.

Yes, and I thank you. I just wanted to apologize for not being able to vote 
while everything was set up ...

 Concerning the History feature you suggest to remove the toolbar and add
 History navigation asĀ  another option to the Navigation floating window, 
 right?

Right :)

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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Use of Navigation Toolbar

2013-12-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote (10-12-13 09:43)

 I didn't want to say that the Navigator is undocumented and confusing. I
 wanted to say that I first thought the Navigation toolbar has something
 to do with the Navigator. That was confusing to me.

OK, thanks for clarifying :)
Misunderstanding pops up so easy ;)

 Maybe? If I was to decide, I would remove this. But I know there are
 other opinions, so I don't want to take any action here unless there are
 no voices against this.
You may have noticed that in general I'm quite conservative in removing
stuff :)
In this case... I would say wait a little longer and then cut it off.
On the other hand, the option to jump from one hyperlink to another
one,is something that one would expect in the navigation button/panel.
But it's not in there... Strange.


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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Use of Navigation Toolbar

2013-12-05 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt

Hi Regina,

thanks for explaining.
So what should we do about this one?
There's no documentation how to use it and I also find the name of the 
toolbar very confusing. It reminds me of the Navigator.


Samuel

Am 04.12.2013 17:38, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Samuel,

Samuel Mehrbrodt schrieb:

Hi,

in Writer there is a Navigation toolbar at View-Toolbars-Navigation.
I first thought, it has the same function as the Previous and Next
buttons in the Navigator, but this is not the case.

I don't really understand what these buttons do. The source code looks
like it is some kind of history navigation.

Does anyone know what the use that toolbar is?


Yes, they allow moving through the history of document intern 
hyperlinks like those buttons in browsers. It is from the category 
Internal, which is unique to LibreOffice. It looks like an 
unfinished feature. It has no extended tips.


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Use of Navigation Toolbar

2013-12-04 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Samuel,

Samuel Mehrbrodt schrieb:

Hi,

in Writer there is a Navigation toolbar at View-Toolbars-Navigation.
I first thought, it has the same function as the Previous and Next
buttons in the Navigator, but this is not the case.

I don't really understand what these buttons do. The source code looks
like it is some kind of history navigation.

Does anyone know what the use that toolbar is?


Yes, they allow moving through the history of document intern hyperlinks 
like those buttons in browsers. It is from the category Internal, 
which is unique to LibreOffice. It looks like an unfinished feature. It 
has no extended tips.


Kind regards
Regina

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