Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2019-01-17 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Meeks wrote: > * GSOC 2019 (Xisco) > AI: Submit proposal (Thorsten/Heiko/Xisco) > Done. Cheers, -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2019-01-17 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Meeks wrote: > * GSOC 2019 (Xisco) > AI: Submit proposal (Thorsten/Heiko/Xisco) > Done. Cheers, -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-12-06 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 06.12.18 17:51, Michael Meeks wrote: > Hi Markus, > > On 06/12/2018 16:46, Markus Mohrhard wrote: >>          + minor complaint wrt. single Chart save removal in calc >> (Heiko) >>             + how to know ? - checkout release notes >>   >> These people should feel free to

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-12-06 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 06.12.18 17:51, Michael Meeks wrote: > Hi Markus, > > On 06/12/2018 16:46, Markus Mohrhard wrote: >>          + minor complaint wrt. single Chart save removal in calc >> (Heiko) >>             + how to know ? - checkout release notes >>   >> These people should feel free to

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-12-06 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Markus, On 06/12/2018 16:46, Markus Mohrhard wrote: >          + minor complaint wrt. single Chart save removal in calc > (Heiko) >             + how to know ? - checkout release notes >   > These people should feel free to complain to me. However the removal was > necessary and

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-12-06 Thread Markus Mohrhard
Hey all, On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:31 PM Michael Meeks wrote: > + minor complaint wrt. single Chart save removal in calc (Heiko) > + how to know ? - checkout release notes > > These people should feel free to complain to me. However the removal was necessary and long

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-12-02 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Meeks wrote: > * Hackfests & Events (Thorsten) >+ next year hackfests coming up: >+ FOSDEM in February - 2 days before the conference expected. > Apologies, there's an off-by-one error: tentative FOSDEM schedule is as follows: Wednesday, January 30 * Hackfest at betacowork

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-11-30 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Meeks wrote: > * Hackfests & Events (Thorsten) >+ next year hackfests coming up: >+ FOSDEM in February - 2 days before the conference expected. > Apologies, there's an off-by-one error: tentative FOSDEM schedule is as follows: Wednesday, January 30 * Hackfest at betacowork

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-09-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 13/09/2018 16:35, Michael Meeks wrote: * IRC channel (cloph) + Spam wave seems over/in control by freenode – keep +r? + should we keep restriction to only registered nicks. + up to moderators – why not just lift it for dev channel (Thorsten) Had to enable it again now (after

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-09-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 13/09/2018 16:35, Michael Meeks wrote: * IRC channel (cloph) + Spam wave seems over/in control by freenode – keep +r? + should we keep restriction to only registered nicks. + up to moderators – why not just lift it for dev channel (Thorsten) Had to enable it again now (after

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-09-13 Thread Jan-Marek Glogowski
Am 13.09.2018 um 18:09 schrieb V Stuart Foote: > >> * CTRL+ALT+E isn't opening the extension dialog but inserts a "é" >> + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119676 >>+ bug?, see also 118269 >> + why do we have a hot-key for that dialog ? (Michael) >>+ not

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-09-13 Thread V Stuart Foote
From: Libreoffice-qa on behalf of Michael Meeks Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:35 AM To: libreoffice-dev; libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org > * CTRL+ALT+E isn't opening the extension dialog but inserts a "é" > +

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-09-13 Thread V Stuart Foote
From: Libreoffice-qa on behalf of Michael Meeks Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:35 AM To: libreoffice-dev; libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org > * CTRL+ALT+E isn't opening the extension dialog but inserts a "é" > +

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-07-12 Thread Kaganski Mike
+ top 5 reviewers: Pootle bot made 2988 review comments in 1 month, and 2988 in 1 year But was it awarded a t-shirt or something? :-) -- Best regards, Mike Kaganski ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call

2018-06-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Stephan Bergmann wrote: > * Jean-Sebastien: > + Linagora branch for French ministry (mimo branch) > + Tell us name of desired branch, will be added (Thorsten) > + Sub-branches even? Probably not needed > Done - also added Jean-Sebastien as committer, otherwise the whole branch

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call

2018-06-28 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Stephan Bergmann wrote: > * Jean-Sebastien: > + Linagora branch for French ministry (mimo branch) > + Tell us name of desired branch, will be added (Thorsten) > + Sub-branches even? Probably not needed > Done - also added Jean-Sebastien as committer, otherwise the whole branch

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-06-22 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 4:50 PM Michael Meeks wrote: >+ Tools > Options > Asian/CTL always active >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104318 The issue (at least the recent comment that revived it) argues that disabling CTL (and by extension CJK) by default makes it

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-06-07 Thread Noel Grandin
e On 7 June 2018 at 16:46, Michael Meeks wrote: > + also looked at Windows build / CPU > + total time ~50mins > + 5 minutes at the begin – checkout/dep gen. > + 8 min in middle & end – just 1 CPU core. > + 20mins – with just 1 core. > + so

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2018-05-30

2018-05-31 Thread Jan Iversen
Enviado desde mi iPad > El 30 may 2018, a las 18:38, Jan Holesovsky escribió: > > * Present: >+ Thorsten, Kendy, Heiko, Noel, Olivier, Xisco, Bubli, Stephan, Sophie, > Michael W., Drew, Eike, Cloph + jani (I was the first, when you asked for names). Rgds Jan I. > > * Completed

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-30 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 26/04/18 16:36, Michael Meeks wrote: + create & circulate new ESC time poll & CC dev list (Heiko) => https://doodle.com/poll/567nszb5tfzfxue4 Even if the times in the poll are in UTC, I assume we are looking for a time that will float with the CET/CEST summer-time change again

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-30 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 26/04/18 16:36, Michael Meeks wrote: + create & circulate new ESC time poll & CC dev list (Heiko) => https://doodle.com/poll/567nszb5tfzfxue4 Even if the times in the poll are in UTC, I assume we are looking for a time that will float with the CET/CEST summer-time change again

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-16 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Khaled, On Saturday, 2018-04-14 04:44:02 +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote: > > > There are two proposals for the project I want to mentor, but none of them > > > submitted any patches so far, so I'm not sure if we want any of these or > > > not. > > > > It's too late now because GSoC slot requests

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-13 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 01:32:59PM +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi Khaled, > > On Thursday, 2018-04-05 16:22:26 +, Khaled Hosny wrote: > > > There are two proposals for the project I want to mentor, but none of them > > submitted any patches so far, so I'm not sure if we want any of these or

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-10 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Khaled, On Thursday, 2018-04-05 16:22:26 +, Khaled Hosny wrote: > There are two proposals for the project I want to mentor, but none of them > submitted any patches so far, so I'm not sure if we want any of these or > not. It's too late now because GSoC slot requests should had happened

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-09 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 06/04/18 16:43, Stephan Bergmann wrote: Unfortunately, appears that none of the Gerrit/Jenkins bots will actually check such changes (as none of them apparently uses --with-help=...).  Leads to broken master that needs fixing like

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-06 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 05/04/18 16:48, Michael Meeks wrote: * Documentation (Olivier) + Help pages updated /fixes (G. Kelemen. S. Horacek, buovjaga, D. Roscek, ohallot, atimar, A. Gelmini) + (on going) wiki page on direct inline help page editing in gerrit (thanks to D. Ostrovsky, M.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-06 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 05/04/18 16:48, Michael Meeks wrote: * Documentation (Olivier) + Help pages updated /fixes (G. Kelemen. S. Horacek, buovjaga, D. Roscek, ohallot, atimar, A. Gelmini) + (on going) wiki page on direct inline help page editing in gerrit (thanks to D. Ostrovsky, M.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-05 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 5:22 PM 'Markus Mohrhard' via Khaled Hosny < khaledho...@eglug.org> wrote: > Hey, > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Michael Meeks > wrote: > >> >> >> * GSoC Application (Thorsten, Heiko) >>+ 42 final applications – deadline is over, please

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-05 Thread Markus Mohrhard
Hey, On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: > > > * GSoC Application (Thorsten, Heiko) >+ 42 final applications – deadline is over, please review! > + somewhat down on previous years; similar to other projects. >+ 16+ mentors >+ 10-15

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call 2018-02-01

2018-02-05 Thread Noel Grandin
On 1 February 2018 at 18:54, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > > > * Budgeting (Thorsten) > + collecting wish-lists: > + get some fast new Macs and host at Manitu > + gerrit updates > + other ideas for development topics ? > > SSDs for existing macs. SSD for

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-09-18 Thread Markus Mohrhard
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Markus Mohrhard < markus.mohrh...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Michael Meeks < > michael.me...@collabora.com> wrote: > >> Hi Markus, >> >> On 18/09/17 16:26, Markus Mohrhard wrote: >> > * Crash Reporter (Xisco) >> > +

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-09-18 Thread Markus Mohrhard
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: > Hi Markus, > > On 18/09/17 16:26, Markus Mohrhard wrote: > > * Crash Reporter (Xisco) > > + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/?days=128 > ... > > I already spent more than a day looking into

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-09-18 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Markus, On 18/09/17 16:26, Markus Mohrhard wrote: > * Crash Reporter (Xisco) >     + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/?days=128 ... > I already spent more than a day looking into that issue. It is not a > problem in LibreOffice or our tooling. Merged libraries generarted with >

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-09-18 Thread Markus Mohrhard
> > > * Crash Reporter (Xisco) > + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/?days=128 > + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.4.2 > + 2121 (last 7 days) > + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.5.2 > + 516 (last 7 days) > +

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-09-05 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2017-08-31 at 15:49 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > Looked for related bugs in Bugzilla (Xisco) >+ didn’t look in too much detail > + http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-ESC-call-20 > 17-08-17-tt4220768.html#a4221038 > AI:+ dialog / cropping →

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-08-31 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, On 31/08/17 16:35, khagaroth wrote: > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Michael Meeks > > wrote: > >+ calc/PDF – wrt. line-breaking: most concern > + Khaled ? driven away by annoying

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call 2017-08-24

2017-08-25 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi, Le 24/08/2017 à 16:53, Miklos Vajna a écrit : [...] * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 5.3.6 RC1 is on the mirrors, to be announced early next week Some time ago, new RC builds were systematically announced on several ML (dev, QA, projects). Now, several RC were not

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-07-21 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, On Friday, 2017-07-21 14:27:11 +0200, Markus Mohrhard wrote: > So my suggestion would be that we all try to write a few lines in a mail > when we have committed something that can/should be used by more developers. > > What do you think? I completely agree. Eike -- LibreOffice Calc

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-07-21 Thread Markus Mohrhard
Hey, On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Stephan Bergmann wrote: > > > * Berlin German community meeting (Thorsten) > > + Hard to track changes going in for non fulltime devs (Björn) > + somebody to summarize the commits going in? > + would that actually

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-15 Thread Antonio Faccioli - LibreItalia
Hy all, Il 2017-06-15 15:09 Michael Meeks ha scritto: Hi guys, On 15/06/17 11:04, Heiko Tietze wrote: Would say the arguments are on the table. Cloph, what is the drawback of adding appimage to our repo ? Can we shelve this, and discuss it in-person at the next ESC call; I've added it to

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-15 Thread Antonio Faccioli - LibreItalia
Hy all, Il 2017-06-15 15:09 Michael Meeks ha scritto: Hi guys, On 15/06/17 11:04, Heiko Tietze wrote: Would say the arguments are on the table. Cloph, what is the drawback of adding appimage to our repo ? Can we shelve this, and discuss it in-person at the next ESC call; I've added it to

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-15 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi guys, On 15/06/17 11:04, Heiko Tietze wrote: > Would say the arguments are on the table. Cloph, what is the drawback > of adding appimage to our repo ? Can we shelve this, and discuss it in-person at the next ESC call; I've added it to the agenda already =) I'm hoping to see Antonio

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-15 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi guys, On 15/06/17 11:04, Heiko Tietze wrote: > Would say the arguments are on the table. Cloph, what is the drawback > of adding appimage to our repo ? Can we shelve this, and discuss it in-person at the next ESC call; I've added it to the agenda already =) I'm hoping to see Antonio

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-15 Thread Heiko Tietze
Would say the arguments are on the table. Cloph, what is the drawback of adding appimage to our repo? Time, size, traffic? In your opinion it has only little benefit but when the costs are low that might be acceptable. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-15 Thread Heiko Tietze
Would say the arguments are on the table. Cloph, what is the drawback of adding appimage to our repo? Time, size, traffic? In your opinion it has only little benefit but when the costs are low that might be acceptable. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-14 Thread Jay Philips
> Hi Jay, *, Hi Cloph, >> 1) not having to install it on your system to run it (aka portable) > No need to install for TDF builds either. You would have to extract, which isnt simple for a regular user. >> 2) copying it on a usb and run it on any linux distro (atleast the minimum >> system

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-14 Thread Jay Philips
> Hi Jay, *, Hi Cloph, >> 1) not having to install it on your system to run it (aka portable) > No need to install for TDF builds either. You would have to extract, which isnt simple for a regular user. >> 2) copying it on a usb and run it on any linux distro (atleast the minimum >> system

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-13 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jay, *, On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 1:10 AM, Jay Philips wrote: > […] >> + unclear what the future holds here: Snap, FlatPack, AppImage (Michael) > > If its Libreoffice future, i believe AppImage will be it, as it provides > similar functionality as the portable

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-13 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jay, *, On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 1:10 AM, Jay Philips wrote: > […] >> + unclear what the future holds here: Snap, FlatPack, AppImage (Michael) > > If its Libreoffice future, i believe AppImage will be it, as it provides > similar functionality as the portable

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-12 Thread antonio . faccioli
Hi Michael, Jay, all Il 09.06.2017 10:59 Michael Meeks ha scritto: Hi Jay, On 09/06/17 00:10, Jay Philips wrote: + unclear what the future holds here: Snap, FlatPack, AppImage (Michael) If its Libreoffice future, i believe AppImage will be it, as it provides similar functionality as the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-09 Thread Jay Philips
Hi All, Sorry i wasnt able to attend today, so i guess i'll leave my comments by email. >  + unclear what the future holds here: Snap, FlatPack, AppImage (Michael) If its Libreoffice future, i believe AppImage will be it, as it provides similar functionality as the portable version found

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-09 Thread Jay Philips
Hi All, Sorry i wasnt able to attend today, so i guess i'll leave my comments by email. >  + unclear what the future holds here: Snap, FlatPack, AppImage (Michael) If its Libreoffice future, i believe AppImage will be it, as it provides similar functionality as the portable version found

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-09 Thread Jay Philips
Hi Michael, >    The "just run the console and do chmod +x " that > I see on their front-page is (I suspect) rather a bit of a usability > nightmare ;-) at least initially vs. say an app-store. Some 'technical' > people I know are impressed by command-line use ;-) As you can set the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-09 Thread Jay Philips
Hi Michael, >    The "just run the console and do chmod +x " that > I see on their front-page is (I suspect) rather a bit of a usability > nightmare ;-) at least initially vs. say an app-store. Some 'technical' > people I know are impressed by command-line use ;-) As you can set the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-09 Thread antonio . faccioli
Hi Michael, Jay, all Il 09.06.2017 10:59 Michael Meeks ha scritto: Hi Jay, On 09/06/17 00:10, Jay Philips wrote: + unclear what the future holds here: Snap, FlatPack, AppImage (Michael) If its Libreoffice future, i believe AppImage will be it, as it provides similar functionality as the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-09 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Jay, On 09/06/17 00:10, Jay Philips wrote: >> + unclear what the future holds here: Snap, FlatPack, AppImage >> (Michael) > > If its Libreoffice future, i believe AppImage will be it, as it > provides similar functionality as the portable version found on > windows, like > > 1) not having to

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-09 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Jay, On 09/06/17 00:10, Jay Philips wrote: >> + unclear what the future holds here: Snap, FlatPack, AppImage >> (Michael) > > If its Libreoffice future, i believe AppImage will be it, as it > provides similar functionality as the portable version found on > windows, like > > 1) not having to

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-05-11 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, On Thursday, 2017-05-11 15:44:56 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > + openhub statistics (2001-01-01), -1(-1) people did -1(-1) commits in 12 > month in -1(-1) lines of code > + Is that really so ? -1 lines is a lot ... Currently https://www.openhub.net/p/libreoffice says 30 Day

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-05-04 Thread Tommy
Michael Meeks wrote: * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 5.2.7 RC2 + on the mirrors as a final version, but no official announce yet. + the last of the 5.2.x line planned. 5.2.7 RC1 changelog still missing here:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-04-21 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2017-04-20 at 20:08 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > > + Google / ossfuzz: 27 fuzzers active now >   - unfortunately, addition of the doc one tipped us over some > upstream build infrastructure space limit so builds broken > upstream until that's sorted out >

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-04-06 Thread David Tardon
Hi, On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 08:22:04AM +1000, Chris Sherlock wrote: > > On 31 Mar 2017, at 10:59 pm, David Tardon wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 04:08:18PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > >> * Crashtest update (Caolan) > >>+ Google / ossfuzz: 24 fuzzers active

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-03-31 Thread David Tardon
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 04:08:18PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > * Crashtest update (Caolan) > + Google / ossfuzz: 24 fuzzers active now, unchanged > + not added any more tests – existing giving out enough noise > + lots of horsepower: they are also testing for local leaks &

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-03-02 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Meeks wrote: > $ cd online > $ git log libreoffice-5-3-branch-point..origin/libreoffice-5-3 --oneline > | nl -> 43 > Does not seem to match reality: $ git merge-base origin/master origin/libreoffice-5-3 0f2e5ef3fe8d52a2f58afc6d8ac19046df155202 $ git log

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-03-02 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Meeks wrote: > $ cd online > $ git log libreoffice-5-3-branch-point..origin/libreoffice-5-3 --oneline > | nl -> 43 > Does not seem to match reality: $ git merge-base origin/master origin/libreoffice-5-3 0f2e5ef3fe8d52a2f58afc6d8ac19046df155202 $ git log

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-03-02 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Thorsten, On 17/02/17 02:40, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > To expand a bit on that, very happy to say that Kopano > (https://kopano.com/) is sponsoring us to improve the stable TDF > branch of LibreOffice Online, which so far has not seen many > bugfixes. Curious; $ cd online $ git log

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-03-02 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Thorsten, On 17/02/17 02:40, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > To expand a bit on that, very happy to say that Kopano > (https://kopano.com/) is sponsoring us to improve the stable TDF > branch of LibreOffice Online, which so far has not seen many > bugfixes. Curious; $ cd online $ git log

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-02-17 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, On Thursday, 2017-02-16 15:43:18 +, Michael Meeks wrote: > + Most Pressing Bugs: http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs > + Older: > + Crash in: `anonymous > namespace'::ScCaptionCreator::UpdateCaptionPos() > + >

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-02-17 Thread Thomas Hackert
Michael Meeks wrote: > On 17/02/17 11:41, Pedro wrote: >> Is TDF hosting a free account version of LOO (not a nice acronym >> for British English people ;) ) at least for testing purposes? > > Heh - so - Collabora is already hosting that as a service for the > community - with integration into

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-02-17 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, On Thursday, 2017-02-16 15:43:18 +, Michael Meeks wrote: > + Most Pressing Bugs: http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs > + New: > + Pivot crashes Calc > + > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105858 > +

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-02-17 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Pedro, On 17/02/17 11:41, Pedro wrote: >> + online/TDF/LDAP accounts etc. (Michael) >> + https://user.documentfoundation.org > > I assumed this would point to a test version but it seems to be a login > interface only... Am I missing something? Riight - so we're working on a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-02-17 Thread Pedro
Hi Thorsten, Michael, all Thorsten Behrens-6 wrote > Michael Meeks wrote: >> + online (Michael) >> + online branch maintenance (Thorsten) >> + wondering for 5.3 – what’s the policy ? >> + not using gerrit much. >> + customer wants to do stabilization &

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-02-16 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Meeks wrote: > + online (Michael) > + online branch maintenance (Thorsten) > + wondering for 5.3 – what’s the policy ? > + not using gerrit much. > + customer wants to do stabilization & bug-fixing > - plan for one review in gerrit

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-02-16 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Meeks wrote: > + online (Michael) > + online branch maintenance (Thorsten) > + wondering for 5.3 – what’s the policy ? > + not using gerrit much. > + customer wants to do stabilization & bug-fixing > - plan for one review in gerrit

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-01-30 Thread Zolnai Tamás
Hi, > * TDF / Budgeting / Brainstorming (Thorsten) > + checkout spreadsheet: > https://demo.collaboracloudsuite.com/tdf/index.php/apps/richdocuments/index#719_%2FESC%20minutes > + currently ranked by highest score > + interesting ranking, thanks for rating. When will these

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-01-13 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 04:41:44PM +0100, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > So, dropping make 3.8.1 on Mac would clearly push people not to build > with the XCode system provided tools ? Well, it is still GNU make. But yes in general, its suggested to work on LibreOffice in a well defined

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2017-01-13 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 04:41:44PM +0100, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > So, dropping make 3.8.1 on Mac would clearly push people not to build > with the XCode system provided tools ? Well, it is still GNU make. But yes in general, its suggested to work on LibreOffice in a well defined

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2017-01-13 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 13/01/2017 à 15:03, Michael Meeks a écrit : > * make 3.81 (Michael S) > + Mac comes with 3.81 (Cloph) >+ but fine with dropping support for it. >+ if people build with lode – they get a current make anyway (Michael > S) > + recommended (JanI) So, dropping make

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2017-01-09 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: > […] > * Release Engineering update (Christian) > + 5.2.5 RC1 schedule acceleration ? > + fixes for both regressions in 5.2 > + Markus’ fix may help a lot with lots of shutdown crashes. >

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2016-12-16 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:40:21PM +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > To relay some stories from real life - there's _so_ much integration > with especially OpenOffice out there, coming from legacy systems, tons > of macro-ized applications, sometimes bespoke development with the > company

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2016-12-16 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Björn, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > 1/ We unpublish all API > Ok so far - > 2/ We give UNO user an opportunity to ask for republishing specific parts of >the API, when they provide a reasonable use case and promise to be the >"client steward" for these. > This is where the plan breaks

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2016-12-16 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:24:33PM +, Michael Meeks wrote: > > - we (core devs) still retain the perogatibve to do the ultimate decisions > > on > > UNO API changes > > You know - I still really like having some area where people can work > without asking someone; I think having

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2016-12-16 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Bjoern, On 16/12/16 12:11, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > Maybe we should change the meaning of "published" then? Currently, "published" > means a onesided promise to each and eevery person on this planet -- people > that we have > no relation with at all -- that we will never ever change this

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2016-12-16 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I have an even blunter suggestion: In a branch (branched off 5.2, for instance), we unpublish and rename all existing API. (For instance, s/com::sun::star/libreoffice/.) We make this very public, and make a test build available that contains it. And then we wait for reports what external software

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2016-12-16 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 10:42:43AM +, Michael Meeks wrote: > Hmm ! ;-) My concern would be that removing the 'published' tag > everywhere would end up making it much harder to change all UNO APIs. > There is a spectrum of views on how conservative (or otherwise) we > should be

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2016-12-16 Thread Michael Meeks
On 16/12/16 09:28, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:02:03PM +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: >> since the goal of the policy is "we can make incompatible changes >> whenever it doesn't affect any 3rd party extension or macro", the >> "published" tag is much less useful as

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2016-12-16 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 12/16/2016 10:28 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:02:03PM +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: since the goal of the policy is "we can make incompatible changes whenever it doesn't affect any 3rd party extension or macro", the "published" tag is much less useful as guidance

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2016-12-16 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:02:03PM +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: > since the goal of the policy is "we can make incompatible changes > whenever it doesn't affect any 3rd party extension or macro", the > "published" tag is much less useful as guidance than it may appear at > first glance. So, uhmm,

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2016-12-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Bjoern, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote on 15-12-16 19:10: > Yes, but the rationale was the extraordinary number of MM regressions we had > during the cleanup of the old (really horrible) code. That major cleanup is > finishe for the most part now, activity in the area is back to normal, so no >

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2016-12-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Bjoern, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote on 15-12-16 19:10: > Yes, but the rationale was the extraordinary number of MM regressions we had > during the cleanup of the old (really horrible) code. That major cleanup is > finishe for the most part now, activity in the area is back to normal, so no >

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2016-12-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:19:54PM +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: > Michael Meeks wrote on 08-12-16 17:56: > > + Mail merge regressions: http://tdf.io/mmregressions > > + 4 open; 4 open last meeting (2 OSX, 1 Linux, 1 generic but hard > > repro) > > => drop from the QA

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2016-12-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:19:54PM +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: > Michael Meeks wrote on 08-12-16 17:56: > > + Mail merge regressions: http://tdf.io/mmregressions > > + 4 open; 4 open last meeting (2 OSX, 1 Linux, 1 generic but hard > > repro) > > => drop from the QA

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2016-12-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote on 08-12-16 17:56: > + Mail merge regressions: http://tdf.io/mmregressions > + 4 open; 4 open last meeting (2 OSX, 1 Linux, 1 generic but hard > repro) > => drop from the QA section from now - always four. Counting 5 at the moment. -- Cor

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2016-12-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote on 08-12-16 17:56: > + Mail merge regressions: http://tdf.io/mmregressions > + 4 open; 4 open last meeting (2 OSX, 1 Linux, 1 generic but hard > repro) > => drop from the QA section from now - always four. Counting 5 at the moment. -- Cor

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2016-12-12 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Meeks wrote: > * TDF / Budgeting / Brainstorming (Thorsten) > + Idea generation: > + Community Building feature / fix / tooling > + Quality improvement tooling > + Hard / dull but necessary stuff not getting done > + Large missing features / function > +

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2016-12-11 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Meeks wrote: > * TDF / Budgeting / Brainstorming (Thorsten) > + Idea generation: > + Community Building feature / fix / tooling > + Quality improvement tooling > + Hard / dull but necessary stuff not getting done > + Large missing features / function > +

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2016-12-10 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 04:56:07PM +, Michael Meeks wrote: > + who else needs a Mac ? ... answers on a post-card. I think I can make use of one, if it can get here easily. I currently use the same Mac laptop for both Linux and Mac development, not the most productive setup.

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2016-12-10 Thread Katarina Behrens
Hello world > + Late features: > + separating images and icons for help modules (Olivier, Bubli) > + still waiting for Olivier's sample string change to write > the script. + we need to see the impact on translators. I'm slightly reluctant to make this 5.3

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2016-12-10 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Katarína Behrens wrote: > I'm slightly reluctant to make this 5.3 late feature, not because of > the impact on translations (which I clarified in another e-mail to > Cloph & Olivier) but because of the impact on how help is packaged > on all 3 platforms for TDF builds and Linux distributions. >

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2016-12-08 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 04:56:07PM +, Michael Meeks wrote: > + someone creating e.g. a Visual Studio extension that does > all the cygwin/git clone/gerrit bootstrapping would be much appreciated > though (Bjoern) > [...] > + eg. a pre-canned bundle with

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2016-11-25 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 11/25/2016 11:26 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: FWIW, up to this point we made no distiction between how we handle published and unpublished interfaces. We don't? At least my impression is that we do take 'published' into consideration when making informed changes to the API.

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