Re: writing attribute style:background-transparency
Hi Regina, Am 23.09.2016 um 00:40 schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Armin, Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi Regina, tried, but could not create one (tried frames in SW, too). Might have to do with the change of SW FillStyle/Transparency attributes to the full Draw ItemSet. These get written with the same attributes as for draw objects, but before the change that attribute might have been used. It would be loaded and converted at import, though. Thus, might be if you use an older version which had not that change and insert a frame and set transparency, but no guarantees Direct hit :) AOO 3.4.1 writes a style:background-transparency for a Writer frame with background color and transparency. LibreOffice 5.3 writes style:background-transparency too, but in addition it writes draw:fill, draw:fill-color and draw:opacity. Yes, this is to have some backward compatibility. This means that the 'old' style to safe it might be removed in the future, but the new ones will stay. The new ones are the same as complete draw/fill style for graphic objects, thus unifying that stuff. HTH! LibreOffice writes draw:fill, draw:fill-color and draw:opacity too in style:page-layout-properties, however there without style:background-transparency. But for draw:fill, draw:fill-color and draw:opacity it is the same problem as for style:background-transparency: It is not allowed in style:page-layout-properties. So my conclusion is, that a transparent property for page background is indeed needed. But I would suggest not to extend the style:background-transparency, but the draw:xyz attributes, because they are richer and already used in LibreOffice. Kind regards Regina HTH! ALG Am 21.09.2016 um 19:36 schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi all, the ODF TC is going to discuss issue OFFICE-3770 [1], which is about the attribute style:background-transparency. I'm trying to generate a document by LibreOffice, in which this attribute is used. But in all my tries I always get draw:opacity or draw:opacity-name (in case of gradient). Do you know a situation where LibreOffice writes the attribute style:background-transparency ? Kind regards Regina [1] https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3770 ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice -- -- ALG (PGP Key: EE1C 4B3F E751 D8BC C485 DEC1 3C59 F953 D81C F4A2) ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
ODF 1.3 and fancy-draw-fillstyles (was: Re: writing attribute style:background-transparency)
On 23.09.2016 00:40, Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi Armin, > > Armin Le Grand schrieb: >> Hi Regina, >> >> tried, but could not create one (tried frames in SW, too). >> >> Might have to do with the change of SW FillStyle/Transparency attributes >> to the full Draw ItemSet. These get written with the same attributes as >> for draw objects, but before the change that attribute might have been >> used. It would be loaded and converted at import, though. >> >> Thus, might be if you use an older version which had not that change and >> insert a frame and set transparency, but no guarantees > > Direct hit :) > > AOO 3.4.1 writes a style:background-transparency for a Writer frame with > background color and transparency. LibreOffice 5.3 writes > style:background-transparency too, but in addition it writes draw:fill, > draw:fill-color and draw:opacity. > > LibreOffice writes draw:fill, draw:fill-color and draw:opacity too in > style:page-layout-properties, however there without > style:background-transparency. But for draw:fill, draw:fill-color and > draw:opacity it is the same problem as for > style:background-transparency: It is not allowed in > style:page-layout-properties. i wasn't aware of this problem, so appears to have the same issue as , which we discuss below. > So my conclusion is, that a transparent property for page background is > indeed needed. But I would suggest not to extend the > style:background-transparency, but the draw:xyz attributes, because they > are richer and already used in LibreOffice. thanks for bringing up this topic, it reminded me of something on my todo-list... unfortunately ODF has 2 sets of attributes for "backgrounds", i'm calling them the "writer-legacy-backgrounds" and the "fancy-draw-fillstyles" - this is presumably a result of the 2 different implementations from StarOffice. it turns out that the "fancy-draw-fillstyles" are more expressive than the "writer-legacy-backgrounds", so Armin refactored Writer to use these natively, and only create the "writer-legacy-backgrounds" as an emulation in the UNO API for backwards compatibility and to export them to ODF. the ODF 1.2 element allows for only the "writer-legacy-backgrounds" attributes, but the element allows both sets of attributes. obviously the "writer-legacy-backgrounds" were never produced by anything other than Writer. the "writer-legacy-backgrounds" confusingly have 2 different attributes for transparency, the "style:background-transparency" is applied if there is a background color while there is a nested element like to apply transparency to an image. now the problem is that current LO Writer will produce the "fancy-draw-fillstyles" also for paragraph styles (and the UI is based around them too) but it's not allowed in ODF 1.2 so we write foreign element. so i guess in ODF 1.3 we either need to add the to paragraph styles, or add the "fancy-draw-fillstyles" attributes to . currently the has a lot of attributes: > 17.21 > > The element specifies formatting properties for > chart, draw, graphic, and frame elements. > > The element is usable within the following > elements: 16.4 and 16.2. > > The element has the following attributes: > dr3d:ambient-color 20.67, > dr3d:backface-culling 20.69, > dr3d:back-scale 20.68, > dr3d:close-back 20.70, > dr3d:close-front 20.71, > dr3d:depth 20.72, > dr3d:diffuse-color 20.73, > dr3d:edge-rounding 20.74, > dr3d:edge-rounding-mode 20.75, > dr3d:emissive-color 20.76, > dr3d:end-angle 20.77, > dr3d:horizontal-segments 20.78, > dr3d:lighting-mode 20.79, > dr3d:normals-direction 20.80, > dr3d:normals-kind 20.81, > dr3d:shadow 20.82, > dr3d:shininess 20.83, > dr3d:specular-color 20.84, > dr3d:texture-filter 20.85, > dr3d:texture-generation-mode-x 20.88, > dr3d:texture-generation-mode-y 20.89, > dr3d:texture-kind 20.86, > dr3d:texture-mode 20.87, > dr3d:vertical-segments 20.90, > draw:auto-grow-height 20.91, > draw:auto-grow-width 20.92, > draw:blue 20.94, > draw:caption-angle 20.95, > draw:caption-angle-type 20.96, > draw:caption-escape 20.97, > draw:caption-escape-direction 20.98, > draw:caption-fit-line-length 20.99, > draw:caption-gap 20.100, > draw:caption-line-length 20.101, > draw:caption-type 20.102, > draw:color-inversion 20.103, > draw:color-mode 20.104, > draw:contrast 20.105, > draw:decimal-places 20.106, > draw:draw-aspect 20.107, > draw:end-guide 20.108, > draw:end-line-spacing-horizontal 20.109, > draw:end-line-spacing-vertical 20.110, > * draw:fill 20.111, > * draw:fill-color 20.112, > * draw:fill-gradient-name 20.113, > * draw:fill-hatch-name 20.114, > * draw:fill-hatch-solid 20.115, > * draw:fill-image-height 20.116, > * draw:fill-image-name 20.117, > * draw:fill-image-ref-point 20.118, > * draw:fill-image-ref-point-x 20.119, > * draw:fill-image-ref-point-y 20.120, > * draw:fill-image-width 20.121, > draw:fit-to-contour 20.122, > draw:fit-to-size 20.123, > draw:frame-display-border 20.124, > draw:frame-display-scrollbar 20.126,
Re: writing attribute style:background-transparency
Hi Armin, Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi Regina, tried, but could not create one (tried frames in SW, too). Might have to do with the change of SW FillStyle/Transparency attributes to the full Draw ItemSet. These get written with the same attributes as for draw objects, but before the change that attribute might have been used. It would be loaded and converted at import, though. Thus, might be if you use an older version which had not that change and insert a frame and set transparency, but no guarantees Direct hit :) AOO 3.4.1 writes a style:background-transparency for a Writer frame with background color and transparency. LibreOffice 5.3 writes style:background-transparency too, but in addition it writes draw:fill, draw:fill-color and draw:opacity. LibreOffice writes draw:fill, draw:fill-color and draw:opacity too in style:page-layout-properties, however there without style:background-transparency. But for draw:fill, draw:fill-color and draw:opacity it is the same problem as for style:background-transparency: It is not allowed in style:page-layout-properties. So my conclusion is, that a transparent property for page background is indeed needed. But I would suggest not to extend the style:background-transparency, but the draw:xyz attributes, because they are richer and already used in LibreOffice. Kind regards Regina HTH! ALG Am 21.09.2016 um 19:36 schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi all, the ODF TC is going to discuss issue OFFICE-3770 [1], which is about the attribute style:background-transparency. I'm trying to generate a document by LibreOffice, in which this attribute is used. But in all my tries I always get draw:opacity or draw:opacity-name (in case of gradient). Do you know a situation where LibreOffice writes the attribute style:background-transparency ? Kind regards Regina [1] https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3770 ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: writing attribute style:background-transparency
Hi Regina, tried, but could not create one (tried frames in SW, too). Might have to do with the change of SW FillStyle/Transparency attributes to the full Draw ItemSet. These get written with the same attributes as for draw objects, but before the change that attribute might have been used. It would be loaded and converted at import, though. Thus, might be if you use an older version which had not that change and insert a frame and set transparency, but no guarantees HTH! ALG Am 21.09.2016 um 19:36 schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi all, the ODF TC is going to discuss issue OFFICE-3770 [1], which is about the attribute style:background-transparency. I'm trying to generate a document by LibreOffice, in which this attribute is used. But in all my tries I always get draw:opacity or draw:opacity-name (in case of gradient). Do you know a situation where LibreOffice writes the attribute style:background-transparency ? Kind regards Regina [1] https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3770 ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice -- -- ALG (PGP Key: EE1C 4B3F E751 D8BC C485 DEC1 3C59 F953 D81C F4A2) ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: writing attribute style:background-transparency
On 22/09/16 00:58, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > Hi Regina, > > you wrote: >> Do you know a situation where LibreOffice writes the attribute >> style:background-transparency ? >> > lotuswordpro/source/filter/xfilter/xfframestyle.cxx does - and perhaps > other libs from DLP do as well? For the while, the only background-* variable that is relevant to transparency/opacity that DLP libraries -- at least those that I maintain -- write is fo:background-opacity for text. Obviously, this does not work and is happily ignored :) Cheers F. -- Please avoid sending me Word, Excel or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: writing attribute style:background-transparency
Hi Regina, you wrote: > Do you know a situation where LibreOffice writes the attribute > style:background-transparency ? > lotuswordpro/source/filter/xfilter/xfframestyle.cxx does - and perhaps other libs from DLP do as well? But it's curiously missing from anything related to xmloff... Cheers, -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
writing attribute style:background-transparency
Hi all, the ODF TC is going to discuss issue OFFICE-3770 [1], which is about the attribute style:background-transparency. I'm trying to generate a document by LibreOffice, in which this attribute is used. But in all my tries I always get draw:opacity or draw:opacity-name (in case of gradient). Do you know a situation where LibreOffice writes the attribute style:background-transparency ? Kind regards Regina [1] https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3770 ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
