Re: [libreplanet-discuss] How do you get a new desktop computer fitting FSF LibrePlanet principles?...

2017-11-10 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I don't know if this was already answered, but look at [1] (it's a shortcut for [2]). It's recommended to support these instead. The price if compared to how much work is put to provide RYF devices. :) Non-RYF have cheaper prices that might not have the freedoms of the software as value,

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] How do you get a new desktop computer fitting FSF LibrePlanet principles?...

2017-10-10 Thread Thomas Harding
Le 10 octobre 2017 02:34:46 GMT+02:00, Don Saklad a écrit : >Good qualities of the sale transactions are important for consumers at >a) what store/dealer you choose to get your respects your freedom >ryf new desktop computer from > >and b) how well the ryf store/dealer is

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] How do you get a new desktop computer fitting FSF LibrePlanet principles?...

2017-10-09 Thread Don Saklad
Good qualities of the sale transactions are important for consumers at a) what store/dealer you choose to get your respects your freedom ryf new desktop computer from and b) how well the ryf store/dealer is available after sale. Compare, for example

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] How do you get a new desktop computer fitting FSF LibrePlanet principles?...

2017-10-03 Thread Ben Gailly
Ok, excuse me for my useless interruption.. On 10/03/2017 09:14 PM, Félicien Pillot wrote: > Le Mon, 2 Oct 2017 22:32:01 +0200, > Ben Gailly a écrit : > >> I think that the most useful will be to buy a compliant laptop (as >> those sell buy Thinkpenguin such as Lenovo Thinkpad

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] How do you get a new desktop computer fitting FSF LibrePlanet principles?...

2017-10-03 Thread Félicien Pillot
Le Mon, 2 Oct 2017 22:32:01 +0200, Ben Gailly a écrit : > I think that the most useful will be to buy a compliant laptop (as > those sell buy Thinkpenguin such as Lenovo Thinkpad T60 or T400), buy > a compliant free-software wireless card (such as AR7291) for laptop > and make a

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] How do you get a new desktop computer fitting FSF LibrePlanet principles?...

2017-10-02 Thread John Sullivan
Wes Frazier writes: > Their not certified RYF (for reasons that escape me) but several > vendors who do RYF laptops have done desktops too at various times > (depending on stock). Minifree has done so in the past (though their > not offering one at the moment).

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] How do you get a new desktop computer fitting FSF LibrePlanet principles?...

2017-10-02 Thread Ben Gailly
I think that the most useful will be to buy a compliant laptop (as those sell buy Thinkpenguin such as Lenovo Thinkpad T60 or T400), buy a compliant free-software wireless card (such as AR7291) for laptop and make a software flash with Libreboot... And if you install on top of it Trisquel,

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] How do you get a new desktop computer fitting FSF LibrePlanet principles?...

2017-10-02 Thread Wes Frazier
Their not certified RYF (for reasons that escape me) but several vendors who do RYF laptops have done desktops too at various times (depending on stock). Minifree has done so in the past (though their not offering one at the moment). Vikings.net has one at this link:

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] How do you get a new desktop computer fitting FSF LibrePlanet principles?...

2017-10-02 Thread Félicien Pillot
Le Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:36:05 -0400, Don Saklad a écrit : > How do you get a new desktop computer fitting FSF LibrePlanet > principles?... it's easier to get an iMac, for many folks it's too > challenging to get a desktop fitting the Free Software Foundation > LibrePlanet

[libreplanet-discuss] How do you get a new desktop computer fitting FSF LibrePlanet principles?...

2017-10-02 Thread Don Saklad
How do you get a new desktop computer fitting FSF LibrePlanet principles?... it's easier to get an iMac, for many folks it's too challenging to get a desktop fitting the Free Software Foundation LibrePlanet principles. Usability and navigability of information is difficult, for example at