Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Replicant or LineageOS or ???

[A.S.]

I've just saw that Neo900  has LTE \o/

P.S. and just for the record, there's this other project called
Freecalypso  (GSM) which
should be mentioned along GTA04 and Replicant.


On 14/06/17 12:49, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
> On 14/06/17 17:31, Adam Van Ymeren wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Daniel Pocock  wrote:
>>
>>> Is there anything like GTA04 in the pipeline that supports LTE / 4G
>>> though?  I saw it was discussed[4] for GTA04 but it is not clear.
>>>
>> Not that I know of.  I think the project is almost dead.  While the latest
>> revision GTA04A5 is currently being manufactured, there appears to be
>> dwindling interest in the project.  There were barely enough pre-orders to
>> do the current production run, I doubt there will be a GTA04A6 which is
>> disappointing.
>>
> The lack of pre-orders could be because users are waiting for a device
> with LTE / 4G
>
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Replicant or LineageOS or ???

[Daniel Pocock]

On 14/06/17 17:31, Adam Van Ymeren wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Daniel Pocock  wrote:
> 
>> Is there anything like GTA04 in the pipeline that supports LTE / 4G
>> though?  I saw it was discussed[4] for GTA04 but it is not clear.
>>
> 
> Not that I know of.  I think the project is almost dead.  While the latest
> revision GTA04A5 is currently being manufactured, there appears to be
> dwindling interest in the project.  There were barely enough pre-orders to
> do the current production run, I doubt there will be a GTA04A6 which is
> disappointing.
> 

The lack of pre-orders could be because users are waiting for a device
with LTE / 4G

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Replicant or LineageOS or ???

[Adam Van Ymeren]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Daniel Pocock  wrote:

> Is there anything like GTA04 in the pipeline that supports LTE / 4G
> though?  I saw it was discussed[4] for GTA04 but it is not clear.
>

Not that I know of.  I think the project is almost dead.  While the latest
revision GTA04A5 is currently being manufactured, there appears to be
dwindling interest in the project.  There were barely enough pre-orders to
do the current production run, I doubt there will be a GTA04A6 which is
disappointing.


The EOMA project [1][2] which is aiming to develop a standard for modular
computers has plans to do a cell phone eventually, however the current
design is using a 3G modem [3].  I hope they pull it off however.

[1] - https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop
[2] - http://rhombus-tech.net/
[3] - http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/hybrid_phone/
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Replicant or LineageOS or ???

[Tiberiu]

On 14.06.2017 16:58, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
> I know Replicant will (or is already, in version 6)

Replicant 6.0 has been released officially and it's the latest stable
version of this fully free distribution:

https://blog.replicant.us/2017/05/replicant-6-0-released/

Phones with Replicant 6.0 are readily available from Technoethical:

https://technoethical.com/mobile-devices

Thanks,
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Founder, Technoethical

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Replicant or LineageOS or ???

[Daniel Pocock]

On 14/06/17 15:53, Adam Van Ymeren wrote:
> On June 14, 2017 9:00:35 AM EDT, Daniel Pocock  wrote:
>>
>> With CyanogenMod gone, more and more people are looking at which OS to
>> use next.
>>
>> LineageOS[1] is the most well known successor, but how does it compare
>> to Replicant[2] when it comes to security and privacy?
>>
>> Are there other alternatives people should consider?  Various articles
>> have popped up[3] with comparisons.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LineageOS
>> 2. https://www.replicant.us/
>> 3. https://www.maketecheasier.com/cyanogenmod-alternatives-for-android/
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> Lineage includes binary blobs and firmware that many peripherals in phones 
> require.  Replicant does not.  So that is  +1 on Replicant side.
> 
> However the bigger problem with both is that on many phones the cellular 
> modem has direct read/write access to the system memory and is running 
> proprietary firmware that shipped with the device which can contain backdoors 
> and tracking software, some of which can even be activated when the cellular 
> modem claims to be "off"
> 
>  The best defense against this while still having a smartphone is something 
> like the GTA04 project, where the schematics are public and designed to 
> isolate the cellular modem such that it does not have full memory access and 
> the power is literally cut when you turn off the cellular.
> 
> Smartphone privacy is more than a software problem at this point, you also 
> need to be careful about the hardware you run it on.
> 

Yes, a device that you carry on your person does have unique privacy
risks as well and some people prefer not to have any (smart)phone at all.

Is there anything like GTA04 in the pipeline that supports LTE / 4G
though?  I saw it was discussed[4] for GTA04 but it is not clear.

Regards,

Daniel


4. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-April/066708.html

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Replicant or LineageOS or ???

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

I don't know how Replicant compares to LineageOS in terms of privacy and
security.

I know Replicant will (or is already, in version 6) based on
LineageOS. Besides, I know that Replicant is free/libre, while LineageOS
isn't (I assume this because there is no GNU FSDG compliance review for
LineageOS so far, and because Android and CyanogenMod are known for not
being compliant with the GNU FSDG, see
[[https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#CyanogenMod]]).

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Replicant or LineageOS or ???

[Adam Van Ymeren]

On June 14, 2017 9:00:35 AM EDT, Daniel Pocock  wrote:
>
>With CyanogenMod gone, more and more people are looking at which OS to
>use next.
>
>LineageOS[1] is the most well known successor, but how does it compare
>to Replicant[2] when it comes to security and privacy?
>
>Are there other alternatives people should consider?  Various articles
>have popped up[3] with comparisons.
>
>Regards,
>
>
>1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LineageOS
>2. https://www.replicant.us/
>3. https://www.maketecheasier.com/cyanogenmod-alternatives-for-android/
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Lineage includes binary blobs and firmware that many peripherals in phones 
require.  Replicant does not.  So that is  +1 on Replicant side.

However the bigger problem with both is that on many phones the cellular modem 
has direct read/write access to the system memory and is running proprietary 
firmware that shipped with the device which can contain backdoors and tracking 
software, some of which can even be activated when the cellular modem claims to 
be "off"

 The best defense against this while still having a smartphone is something 
like the GTA04 project, where the schematics are public and designed to isolate 
the cellular modem such that it does not have full memory access and the power 
is literally cut when you turn off the cellular.

Smartphone privacy is more than a software problem at this point, you also need 
to be careful about the hardware you run it on.

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[libreplanet-discuss] Replicant or LineageOS or ???

[Daniel Pocock]

With CyanogenMod gone, more and more people are looking at which OS to
use next.

LineageOS[1] is the most well known successor, but how does it compare
to Replicant[2] when it comes to security and privacy?

Are there other alternatives people should consider?  Various articles
have popped up[3] with comparisons.

Regards,


1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LineageOS
2. https://www.replicant.us/
3. https://www.maketecheasier.com/cyanogenmod-alternatives-for-android/

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