Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Free software and disabilities

2015-12-15 Thread John Sullivan 
Andrés Muñiz Piniella  writes:

> Yes, this is great! Extactly what me and my friend where discussing. I
> had heard about the directory and the hard work of people behind it
> but I kept forgetting about it.
> Using disabity search term
> https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?search=disability=Special%3ASearch
>
> Brings me to two projects that seem to be incredible: ATK and skipper. But 
> Sadly both project links go to 404.
>
> I have ccd directory-disc...@gnu.org but I guess I will need to subscribe to 
> it first.
>
> Hopefully I can find where the projects are now.
>

Help updating the entries appropriately would be much appreciated! And
if you do IRC, there is a meeting just about every Friday where people
get together and work on the Directory for a few hours, and discuss
improvements -- it's a good chance to learn how to do it. It's 12pm to
3pm EST (16:00 to 19:00 UTC) in #fsf on Freenode.

> PS: Thanks for #fsfbulletin

Happy to hear that you received it, thanks!

-john

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Free software and disabilities

2015-12-15 Thread Daniel Pocock 
On 16/12/15 00:19, John Sullivan wrote:
> Daniel Pocock  writes:
>
>> One thing we should be more conscious of is that there are funding
>> programs and grants available to make the world better for people with
>> disabilities.  It would be very interesting to try and ensure that some
>> of that money is going to free software rather than proprietary
>> software.  Developers don't typically have a disposition for filling out
>> application forms so if there are other volunteers who would like to
>> help look for such programs and match them to relevant free software
>> projects and help with paperwork it could give interesting results and
>> it may indirectly benefit other parts of the free software ecosystem.
> The FSF certainly has people and willingness to help with such
> grant/funding applications, if someone can bring them to our attention.

This one is pretty big

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-15/gillard-cries-while-introducing-disability-legislation/4690692

They promise "security and dignity" for people with a disability.  That
should include the choice to use free software shouldn't it?

I'm not sure exactly how the money trickles down in practice but there
is a lot of it to be spent.  If I understand correctly, it is not really
something for nothing, they hope it will enable more of these people to
work and pay tax in the long term so it may be applicable to some types
of business software.

E.g.
http://www.ndis.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/accessibility_strategy_plan.docx

and commercial software vendors are already getting on the bandwagon:

http://atmac.org/ndis-apple-events-2015

Regards,

Daniel

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Free software and disabilities

2015-12-15 Thread John Sullivan 
Daniel Pocock  writes:

> One thing we should be more conscious of is that there are funding
> programs and grants available to make the world better for people with
> disabilities.  It would be very interesting to try and ensure that some
> of that money is going to free software rather than proprietary
> software.  Developers don't typically have a disposition for filling out
> application forms so if there are other volunteers who would like to
> help look for such programs and match them to relevant free software
> projects and help with paperwork it could give interesting results and
> it may indirectly benefit other parts of the free software ecosystem.

The FSF certainly has people and willingness to help with such
grant/funding applications, if someone can bring them to our attention.

-john

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Free software and disabilities

2015-12-13 Thread Daniel Pocock 
On 13/12/15 15:09, Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote:
> El 10 de diciembre de 2015 23:50:42 GMT+00:00, John Sullivan  
> escribió:
>> amunizp  writes:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Speaking to someone the other day they mentioned that there wasn't a
>>> central place to go get disability supported solutions. Short from
>>> putting 'disability' in a package manager, is there any central place
>>> where one can look for faif supporting people with disabilities?
>>>
>>> Sadly my search only brought this article from 9 years ago [1].
>>>
>>> BTW I heard about sonar Gnu/Linux [2] which is an incredible project
>> a
>>> project and Jasper and Mycroft could be used as well. What I was
>>> looking for is where all these options are listed as well as the
>> stand
>>> alone faif packages that can be used in proprietary platforms.
>>>
>> You can try the categories/properties at https://directory.fsf.org. If
>> they aren't sufficient, then I'm sure directory-disc...@gnu.org would
>> like to hear suggestions for improving them. :)
>>
>> -john
> Yes, this is great! Extactly what me and my friend where discussing. I had 
> heard about the directory and the hard work of people behind it but I kept 
> forgetting about it.
> Using disabity search term
> https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?search=disability=Special%3ASearch
>
> Brings me to two projects that seem to be incredible: ATK and skipper. But 
> Sadly both project links go to 404.
>
> I have ccd directory-disc...@gnu.org but I guess I will need to subscribe to 
> it first.
>
> Hopefully I can find where the projects are now.
>
> PS: Thanks for #fsfbulletin


There was some discussion about this on a FOSDEM list recently. 
Somebody expressed an opinion that if software doesn't support users
with disabilities then the developers are discriminating against those
people.

It is not so simple though.  Developers don't actively discriminate, we
simply don't have time to do everything we would like to do if time and
money were unlimited.

One thing we should be more conscious of is that there are funding
programs and grants available to make the world better for people with
disabilities.  It would be very interesting to try and ensure that some
of that money is going to free software rather than proprietary
software.  Developers don't typically have a disposition for filling out
application forms so if there are other volunteers who would like to
help look for such programs and match them to relevant free software
projects and help with paperwork it could give interesting results and
it may indirectly benefit other parts of the free software ecosystem.

Regards,

Daniel

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Free software and disabilities

2015-12-13 Thread Andrés Muñiz Piniella 
El 10 de diciembre de 2015 23:50:42 GMT+00:00, John Sullivan  
escribió:
>amunizp  writes:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Speaking to someone the other day they mentioned that there wasn't a
>> central place to go get disability supported solutions. Short from
>> putting 'disability' in a package manager, is there any central place
>> where one can look for faif supporting people with disabilities?
>>
>> Sadly my search only brought this article from 9 years ago [1].
>>
>> BTW I heard about sonar Gnu/Linux [2] which is an incredible project
>a
>> project and Jasper and Mycroft could be used as well. What I was
>> looking for is where all these options are listed as well as the
>stand
>> alone faif packages that can be used in proprietary platforms.
>>
>
>You can try the categories/properties at https://directory.fsf.org. If
>they aren't sufficient, then I'm sure directory-disc...@gnu.org would
>like to hear suggestions for improving them. :)
>
>-john

Yes, this is great! Extactly what me and my friend where discussing. I had 
heard about the directory and the hard work of people behind it but I kept 
forgetting about it.
Using disabity search term
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?search=disability=Special%3ASearch

Brings me to two projects that seem to be incredible: ATK and skipper. But 
Sadly both project links go to 404.

I have ccd directory-disc...@gnu.org but I guess I will need to subscribe to it 
first.

Hopefully I can find where the projects are now.

PS: Thanks for #fsfbulletin


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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Free software and disabilities

2015-12-10 Thread John Sullivan 
amunizp  writes:

> Hi all,
>
> Speaking to someone the other day they mentioned that there wasn't a
> central place to go get disability supported solutions. Short from
> putting 'disability' in a package manager, is there any central place
> where one can look for faif supporting people with disabilities?
>
> Sadly my search only brought this article from 9 years ago [1].
>
> BTW I heard about sonar Gnu/Linux [2] which is an incredible project a
> project and Jasper and Mycroft could be used as well. What I was
> looking for is where all these options are listed as well as the stand
> alone faif packages that can be used in proprietary platforms.
>

You can try the categories/properties at https://directory.fsf.org. If
they aren't sufficient, then I'm sure directory-disc...@gnu.org would
like to hear suggestions for improving them. :)

-john

-- 
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GPG Key: 61A0963B | http://status.fsf.org/johns | http://fsf.org/blogs/RSS

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[libreplanet-discuss] Free software and disabilities

2015-12-10 Thread amunizp 
Hi all,

Speaking to someone the other day they mentioned that there wasn't a central 
place to go get disability supported solutions. Short from putting 'disability' 
in a package manager, is there any central place where one can look for faif 
supporting people with disabilities?

Sadly my search only brought this article from 9 years ago [1].

BTW I heard about sonar Gnu/Linux [2] which is an incredible project a project 
and Jasper and Mycroft could be used as well. What I was looking for is where 
all these options are listed as well as the stand alone faif packages that can 
be used in proprietary platforms.

[1] http://www.zdnet.com/article/open-source-and-disability/#!
[2] http://sonargnulinux.com/



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