Here are some ideas for GNUnix as an alternate distribution:
This Operating System is very simple in appearance, with the main menu
containing a set of re-branded best of breed applications allowing
the new user to begin work quickly.
The install is very minimal (such as
Miles Fidelman wrote:
In what respect do Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, etc. (Linux), or FreeBSD,
OpenBSD, NetBSD, DragonflyBSD, etc. not fully respect user freedom?
http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html
There are plenty of distributions to choose from
I'm just saying we could use a
for
hosting Free Software, it will be obvious the same can be done for the
more important issues of food and housing and health-care.
Sincerely,
Patrick Anderson
http://SourceFreedom.BlogSpot.com
http://ImputedProduction.BlogSpot.com
http://SocialSufficiencyCoalition.BlogSpot.com
, as such corporations will
be on our side by definition.
Sincerely,
Patrick Anderson
http://SourceFreedom.BlogSpot.com
.
This is a short (somewhat incomplete) description of how to proceed.
Please ask questions and help me fix what is wrong with the idea.
Sincerely,
Patrick Anderson
http://ImputedProduction.BlogSpot.com
Ziv Leyes wrote:
how are you thinking it will be possible to implement those
plans, ideas, etc. in our messy and corrupted society?
In small groups that buy and co-own the Means of Production
very much like any business or organization, but with the
following Terms of Operation as self-enforced
John Sullivan wrote:
I see how it's relevant to the concept of freedom, but this list is
specifically for discussions surrounding the LibrePlanet project -- the
Web site, the annual conference, and the network of groups. So let's
keep a narrower focus.
There is also
Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote:
running a (paid-for by the users) service that would
integrate the many different communication and
cloud-based platforms that are Free Software
1.) Will the User/Owners *buy* the hosting, or will
they each already own as much as they have
paid for
http://www.ryzom.com/en/
For all those that do, we should represent the LibrePlanet Gaming Collective
there!
Is Free as in Freedom hosting/subscription outside the LibrePlanet agenda?
http://www.ryzom.com/en/mmorpg-rpg-mmo-subscription-options.html
We refuse to tackle this problem and so
Ted Smith wrote:
Can someone from the FSF comment on whether this is relevant
or not for this list? This topic generates a lot of discussion but (I
would bet money) not any actual activism opportunities for the FSF
or local LibrePlanet groups.
Is it because Danny is talking about sharing
Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
research/reach further freedom.
Discovering the solutions to this problem is our next step toward
completing the liberation of software and simultaneously in
understanding how to host free as in freedom production in the
physical realm.
But such discussion is usually
Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
using a commercial service where free open
source software is behind all the infrastructure
Even if the network service provider uses 100%
Free Software, you are still at their mercy when
it comes to whether they read your emails and
use that data to target
Ted Smith wrote:
What would you have us do?
We must write a Terms of Operation analogous to the GNU GPL, but in
a form that can be applied to physical property.
This Terms of Operation will be a legally-binding social contract
that hardware co-owners can then choose to apply to some of their
Bryan Baldwin wrote:
it might be a mistake to count on being
about to go all in on law making revolution.
I just want to clarify that my approach is not to
beg the governments nor the corporations, but
to create new corporations that use the legally-
biding social contract I sometimes call the
Miles Fidelman wrote:
Pledge $25 or more
Access to software on release date -
Hi Miles,
Does this option include source-code for
that component?
If so, then I think I understand the confusion.
To some of us, it sounds like you are saying
For $25, the user receives binaries, but not
Mark Holmquist wrote:
there's a dollar amount sitting between binary and source,
He is keeping the binaries and source bundled together,
but is only distributing those *bundles* to people who pay.
To some, the word 'code' is synonymous with 'source',
but sometimes programmers (such as Miles)
Ramana Kumar wrote:
written to use the data from a server
without storing a local copy.
Maybe this is already done in Java?:
http://bitcoinj.GoogleCode.com {BitCoinJ implements the simplified
payment verification mode of Satoshis paper. It does not store a full
copy of the block chain, rather,
Patrick patr...@spellingbeewinnars.org wrote:
I want to find another licence that provides
all possible freedoms for end users but does
not open doors of oppression for crooks.
Are the distributors crooks only because they
are charging money for those copies?
What if they give your program
Patrick wrote:
I have thought about selling binaries and
source without makefiles.
I'm confused why you want to distribute the
source at all...
If you don't want anyone to ever build the
project, then what good does the source
code do for those who receive it?
Patrick wrote:
I want the code to be used by end users
in any way except to resell for a profit
What do you hope to solve by stopping the
resale of software for a profit?
How does selling Free Software hurt you
or anyone else?
Thanks for this Ramana.
The points in the article are very true.
The overall message I receive is quality is maximized when artisans
play for community benefit.
We can create a setting where artisans can play all day long without
worring about food, shelter and basic health-care.
This Basic
...
In the end we will need to discover the meaning of Free as in
Freedom for sharing the costs of *hosting* software. We need a new
way to share physical property that preserves user freedoms - a sort
of 'PropertyLeft' that co-owners will use property rights to apply to
their shared assets.
Patrick
See Network Services Aren't Free or Nonfree; They Raise Other Issues:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/network-services-arent-free-or-nonfree.html
The document seems to say it is impossible to safely share hardware.
But it is not impossible, we just don't yet know how.
We will forever be
. One could say (perhaps the following is not the best use
of language) this is some distinction between juridical and
political perspectives about Free Software.
Em Dom, 2012-12-02 às 11:13 -0700, Patrick Anderson escreveu:
Under this definition Cloud software and patented codecs become
non
I use the ARPA account at http://freeshell.org which is a one-time fee
of $36, but may not be enough storage and/or bandwidth for your
needs...
I wish I could find a group interested in defining the meaning of Free
as in Freedom hosting, for then we could conqure this issue completely
and for all
We absolutely refuse to organize to co-own the hardware for our mutual
benefit, and so must always put ourselves at risk of those who *do*
own the hardware.
We will forever cower and beg and cry and plead those property owners
until we, the users are finally willing to accept the risks of
I have some made some very important discoveries about how to organize
production so we can safely scale while still retaining User Freedom in the
physical realm.
I would really appreciate being a part of a team working toward that goal.
Sincerely,
Patrick Anderson
.
As it is, we are trying to call a rose a cabbage and wondering
why nobody gets it...
Sincerely,
Patrick Anderson
Economic Systems Engineer
http://CrossCrowdPredictiveProduction.github.io
://imputedproduction.blog.com/2011/05/20/longer-explanation
Sincerely,
Patrick Anderson
Economic Systems Engineer
http://CrossCrowdPredictiveProduction.github.io
in the next couple days about that approach
which requires a minimum size and complexity to
host the housing and food and hospitals needed for us
to have a decent standard of living.
Sincerely,
Patrick Anderson
According to those who would apply the
GNU GPL to software and ND to opinion,
I wonder which license I should (ideally)
use to write software that expresses opinion.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Aaron Wolf wolft...@riseup.net wrote:
On 05/27/2015 07:48 AM, Yoni Rabkin wrote:
choosing to
Just curious if anyone is working on how to host such works in a Free
as in Freedom manner.
Bit-torrent is good, but we want to be able to guarantee the file
doesn't disappear.
We could extend the protocol to include block redundance and deduplication.
But how can we compensate those who choose
> if the product were a power wheelchair,
> which has both hardware and software, comes in
> a variety of sizes, and has a cushion by a different
> vendor which may not be open, how would things work
> with what you propose?
Think of the extreme limitations of the GNU project
when it first began.
We can solve this by learning how to share the land and tools needed
to make all we need.
The GNU GPL speaks of User Freedom, but this is only for bits.
Sharing space and atoms seems impossible, but really it isn't.
Once we find a better way to share the Means of Production in the
physical
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