Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-09 Thread Raymond

Date: Thu,  9 May 2002 23:31:40 -0700
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

Quoting neil barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 06:04:00 +
> From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
> 
> 
> >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 04:27:39 +
> >From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
> >
> >>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >>Very good, Matthew, the player will end up listening to itself so you'll
> >>end up with MP3s controlling the MP3 player ... I can think of many songs
> >>that'll have one or more of those keywords in them.
> >
> >Hmm... that hadn't occurred to me.  But I was always under the impression
> >that each person had to train voice recognition software to recognize
> >his/her particular voice.  I would think that it would be extremely
> >difficult for software to pick out particular words in the sound of music
> >being played.
> 
> The problem is more likely to be that it can't separate you out from the 
> music it's playing. Hence clever filters that listen to the music and to you
> 
> and make sure there's as little of the music on your signal as possible. 
> Tricky, but doable, but computationally expensive unless you happen to have
> 
> a handy DSP.

Of course, you do have to ask yourself, how hard can it be to push a button? For
not an awful lot more than $10 you could build a suitable control module with a
PIC16F84 and standard code fragments available around the 'net that'll plug into
the libby's serial port (or perhaps you could even bring the serial port lines
out yourself and do away with the minidock), with a few buttons that you can
arrange nicely on your steering wheel, gear stick or wherever you could reach
them without taking your eyes off the road and control things that way. I'm
pretty sure there's a serial control plugin for Winamp (originally designed to
let a Palm or HP calculator control Winamp) that could be used for this purpose
...


- Raymond



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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-09 Thread neil barnes

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 06:09:01 +
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition


>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 05:20:29 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
>
>>From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>>Of course, you could use one lib to do the playback, and one lib to do the
>>voice recognition...
>
>This might be the biggest stumbling block.  If voice recognition software
>requires as much of the system resources as the MP3 player, the L70 
>wouldn't
>cut it, would it?  How about the L110?

Dunno, never tried it.  Find the software, make it work, use P5Mon or 
similar to see how much processor it's using. Or just try it. There's a dos 
version of mgp123 which doesn't use any great amount of processor power, but 
is a little restricted in its capabilities (it knowa bout start and stop!)

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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-09 Thread neil barnes

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 06:04:00 +
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition


>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 04:27:39 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
>
>>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>>Very good, Matthew, the player will end up listening to itself so you'll
>>end up with MP3s controlling the MP3 player ... I can think of many songs
>>that'll have one or more of those keywords in them.
>
>Hmm... that hadn't occurred to me.  But I was always under the impression
>that each person had to train voice recognition software to recognize
>his/her particular voice.  I would think that it would be extremely
>difficult for software to pick out particular words in the sound of music
>being played.

The problem is more likely to be that it can't separate you out from the 
music it's playing. Hence clever filters that listen to the music and to you 
and make sure there's as little of the music on your signal as possible. 
Tricky, but doable, but computationally expensive unless you happen to have 
a handy DSP.

>
>That said, I'm amazed what voice recognition is cabable of on the phone
>these days.

Check out http://digitalacoustics.com/  I wrote 
the code that cleans up the signal before it gets to the voice recognition 
section.

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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-09 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 05:20:29 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

>From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice recognition to 
>>control MP3 playback in the car.  I'd love to be able to say UP for louder 
>>volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, BACK for the 
>>previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD etc.  Who was it 
>>that suggested this a few months back for GPS software, and got me 
>>thinking??
>
>W, the voice recognition should be fairly easy (though it may want 
>more processor time than the mp3 player is willing to give up...) but the 
>adaptive filtering to get rid of all the other noise (like the mp3 audio 
>output!) might be a bit...er...interesting.

Yeah... microphone placement would be important if it's going to work at 
all.  How about a set of headphones with those directional mics.  Actually 
would only need a directional mic like the ones used in aviation headsets  
that you position right up to your mouth

>Of course, you could use one lib to do the playback, and one lib to do the 
>voice recognition...

This might be the biggest stumbling block.  If voice recognition software 
requires as much of the system resources as the MP3 player, the L70 wouldn't 
cut it, would it?  How about the L110?

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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-09 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 04:27:39 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Quoting Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice recognition > to 
>control MP3 playback in the car.  I'd love to be able to say UP > for 
>louder volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, > BACK for 
>the previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD > etc.  Who was 
>it that
>
>Very good, Matthew, the player will end up listening to itself so you'll 
>end up with MP3s controlling the MP3 player ... I can think of many songs 
>that'll have one or more of those keywords in them.

Hmm... that hadn't occurred to me.  But I was always under the impression 
that each person had to train voice recognition software to recognize 
his/her particular voice.  I would think that it would be extremely 
difficult for software to pick out particular words in the sound of music 
being played.

That said, I'm amazed what voice recognition is cabable of on the phone 
these days.  It didn't take software trained to my voice for the UPS 
tracking line to recognize an alpha-numeric code the first tiume I read it 
off the other day!  Wonder if it could do as well with music playing in the 
background.

M.

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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-07 Thread neil barnes

Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 08:05:23 +
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition


>Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:18:12 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
>

>I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice recognition to
>control MP3 playback in the car.  I'd love to be able to say UP for louder
>volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, BACK for the
>previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD etc.  Who was it 
>that
>suggested this a few months back for GPS software, and got me thinking??

W, the voice recognition should be fairly easy (though it may want 
more processor time than the mp3 player is willing to give up...) but the 
adaptive filtering to get rid of all the other noise (like the mp3 audio 
output!) might be a bit...er...interesting.

Of course, you could use one lib to do the playback, and one lib to do the 
voice recognition...

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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-06 Thread Frans Verhaag

Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 08:11:37 +0200
From: Frans Verhaag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

Matthew Hanson wrote:

> Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:18:12 +
> From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
>
> >>Raymond wrote:
> >>
> >>How 'bout using Voice Recognition Software - just talk to your Libby (some
> >>of do already!) and tell it what to do with no need for mice, keyboards,
> >>etc.
> >
> >Ewww ... I've got a real dislike of voice recognition software ... besides
> >which if my libby actually KNEW what I was saying to it half the time it'd
> >probably pack up and leave! ;-)
>
> I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice recognition to
> control MP3 playback in the car.  I'd love to be able to say UP for louder
> volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, BACK for the
> previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD etc.  Who was it that
> suggested this a few months back for GPS software, and got me thinking??

I gues it was me who raised the subject then:
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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-06 Thread Clarence

Date: Tue,  7 May 2002 01:21:41 -0400
From: "Clarence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

>
>Quoting Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:18:12 +
>> From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
>> 
>> 
>> I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice 
recognition to 
>> control MP3 playback in the car.  I'd love to be able to say UP 
for louder 
>> volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, BACK 
for the 
>> previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD etc.  
Who was it that
>
>Very good, Matthew, the player will end up listening to itself so 
you'll end up
>with MP3s controlling the MP3 player ... I can think of many 
songs that'll have
>one or more of those keywords in them.
>
>A case of the tail wagging the dog (or perhaps the tip heating 
the soldering
>iron)?
>
>
>- Raymond
>
>


Actually, I've seen a circuit (I'll see if I can find it again) 
that used a 68HC11, a voice-rec module, and 64k of ram. The 
software side was pretty complicated, if I remember correctly. 
Anyways, like many higher-end cellphones, it recorded the camber 
of the speaker's voice along with the spoken command. It also 
constantly polled the microphone in order to set the sampling 
baseline to be that of the background noise. It would then only 
accept commands that were so many decibels above baseline.

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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-06 Thread Raymond

Date: Mon,  6 May 2002 20:54:44 -0700
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

Quoting Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:18:12 +
> From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
> 
> 
> I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice recognition to 
> control MP3 playback in the car.  I'd love to be able to say UP for louder 
> volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, BACK for the 
> previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD etc.  Who was it that

Very good, Matthew, the player will end up listening to itself so you'll end up
with MP3s controlling the MP3 player ... I can think of many songs that'll have
one or more of those keywords in them.

A case of the tail wagging the dog (or perhaps the tip heating the soldering
iron)?


- Raymond



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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-06 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:18:12 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

>>Raymond wrote:
>>
>>How 'bout using Voice Recognition Software - just talk to your Libby (some 
>>of do already!) and tell it what to do with no need for mice, keyboards, 
>>etc.
>
>Ewww ... I've got a real dislike of voice recognition software ... besides 
>which if my libby actually KNEW what I was saying to it half the time it'd 
>probably pack up and leave! ;-)

I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice recognition to 
control MP3 playback in the car.  I'd love to be able to say UP for louder 
volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, BACK for the 
previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD etc.  Who was it that 
suggested this a few months back for GPS software, and got me thinking??

M.


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