Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

2001-03-15 Thread neil barnes

Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:48:43
From: "neil barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

Just one question - is there any serious access you need that could not be 
handled by an internet cafe? Hotmail and friends can collect mail from POP 
mailboxes.

Neil


From: "Ken Hansen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:42:11 -0800

Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:32:15 -0500
From: "Ken Hansen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

Steve,

As it turns out, I think I will go for $24 for 10 hours access, additional
hours at $3-4/hr.

I think I would be hard pressed to use all 10 hours (the wife is coming
along...) in the five days, besides, I can justify $24 as a one-time
expense - compared to the cost of the trip, it is a bargain.

One thing I like to do with vacations is calculate my base burn rate, I 
take
the amount of money I am paying (let's say $1,000), then divide that by the
number of hours (call it 96, 4 days), then my burn rate is $10/hr just
*being* there (this of course, takes into account the cost of getting 
there,
the cost of eating while there, and all the disposable purchases I make
while I am there).

My burn rate for this trip is about $25/hr - if I add another $24 to the
total expense of the trip, my cost goes up to $25.20/hr... It is easy, the
ISP is willing to waive any one-time setup fees, so the total out-of-pocket
is $24.

BTW, the Bermudian Phone Co. has a surcharge for spending more than 60
minutes on one call... Interesting.

Ken
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Schone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...


  Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:54:57 -0500
  From: "Steve Schone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...
 
  Ken,
 
  Depends on what you plan to use the internet access for.  ATTglobal has 
a
  local number in Hamilton, Bermuda.  They have plans for as little as 
$5.95
a
  month for domestic access.  To that you would have to add $9.00/hr for
  "roaming" charges.  If you plan to only check email, you will be hard
  pressed to use and hour of time in just 5 days, unless you read all you
mail
  on-line.
 
  Steve Schone
 
  President
  Micro Solutions, Inc
  72 North Street, Suite 101
  Danbury, CT 06810
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Web Site: www.micsol.com
  phone : 203-748-4633
  fax   : 203-797-9849
  Micro Solutions is the pre-eminent Toshiba and IBM computer distributor
and
  service
  company.
  "We pride ourselves on being the best."
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ken Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:04 PM
  To: Libretto
  Subject: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...
 
 
  Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:35:54 -0500
  From: "Ken Hansen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...
 
  Hello all,
 
  My question has to do with getting internet acces while on a 5 day
vacation
  in Bermuda, the best I can come up with is  $30 for about 10 hours 
access
  (since I will only be there for 5 days, not a big problem) - does anyone
  here have any advice on providers, alternate access plans?
 
  For reference, see: http://bermuda-online.org/internet.htm
 
  Also, there is a company I like called HiTechCafe in CA that has a great
  deal on a real nice (refurb) Portege 3020 laptop - they are $599 w/96 
Meg
  RAM, 6.4 G HD, 10.4" 800x600 TFT display, 56K modem, etc.
 
  For further information, see:
 
http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct2.asp?sku=PORTEGE%2D3020CTdept%5Fi
  d=14
 
  (My wife has a Portege 3010, with a slightly slower CPU (P/266 MMX?) and
she
  loves it - I just wish I could justify one, I might consider displacing 
my
  Librettos...)
 
  Please, buy them all so that I am not tempted! I still have the L50 I 
was
  going to sell to defer the price of my L110!
 
  Ken
 

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RE: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

2001-03-15 Thread Steve Schone

Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:15:30 -0500
From: "Steve Schone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

Ken,

Sounds like a plan.  I've spent a fair amount of time in Bermuda on
business/pleasure, although I haven't been back there for a few years.  If
you need to know anything, send me an email.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Ken Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 1:42 AM
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...


Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:32:15 -0500
From: "Ken Hansen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

Steve,

As it turns out, I think I will go for $24 for 10 hours access, additional
hours at $3-4/hr.

I think I would be hard pressed to use all 10 hours (the wife is coming
along...) in the five days, besides, I can justify $24 as a one-time
expense - compared to the cost of the trip, it is a bargain.

One thing I like to do with vacations is calculate my base burn rate, I take
the amount of money I am paying (let's say $1,000), then divide that by the
number of hours (call it 96, 4 days), then my burn rate is $10/hr just
*being* there (this of course, takes into account the cost of getting there,
the cost of eating while there, and all the disposable purchases I make
while I am there).

My burn rate for this trip is about $25/hr - if I add another $24 to the
total expense of the trip, my cost goes up to $25.20/hr... It is easy, the
ISP is willing to waive any one-time setup fees, so the total out-of-pocket
is $24.

BTW, the Bermudian Phone Co. has a surcharge for spending more than 60
minutes on one call... Interesting.

Ken
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Schone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...


 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:54:57 -0500
 From: "Steve Schone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

 Ken,

 Depends on what you plan to use the internet access for.  ATTglobal has a
 local number in Hamilton, Bermuda.  They have plans for as little as $5.95
a
 month for domestic access.  To that you would have to add $9.00/hr for
 "roaming" charges.  If you plan to only check email, you will be hard
 pressed to use and hour of time in just 5 days, unless you read all you
mail
 on-line.

 Steve Schone

 President
 Micro Solutions, Inc
 72 North Street, Suite 101
 Danbury, CT 06810
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Web Site: www.micsol.com
 phone : 203-748-4633
 fax   : 203-797-9849
 Micro Solutions is the pre-eminent Toshiba and IBM computer distributor
and
 service
 company.
 "We pride ourselves on being the best."


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:04 PM
 To: Libretto
 Subject: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...


 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:35:54 -0500
 From: "Ken Hansen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

 Hello all,

 My question has to do with getting internet acces while on a 5 day
vacation
 in Bermuda, the best I can come up with is  $30 for about 10 hours access
 (since I will only be there for 5 days, not a big problem) - does anyone
 here have any advice on providers, alternate access plans?

 For reference, see: http://bermuda-online.org/internet.htm

 Also, there is a company I like called HiTechCafe in CA that has a great
 deal on a real nice (refurb) Portege 3020 laptop - they are $599 w/96 Meg
 RAM, 6.4 G HD, 10.4" 800x600 TFT display, 56K modem, etc.

 For further information, see:

http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct2.asp?sku=PORTEGE%2D3020CTdept%5Fi
 d=14

 (My wife has a Portege 3010, with a slightly slower CPU (P/266 MMX?) and
she
 loves it - I just wish I could justify one, I might consider displacing my
 Librettos...)

 Please, buy them all so that I am not tempted! I still have the L50 I was
 going to sell to defer the price of my L110!

 Ken




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Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

2001-03-14 Thread Ken Hansen

Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:39:36 -0500
From: "Ken Hansen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

My ISP (Verizon) does not have any access outside their area.

A 1-800 number will cost me $1+/minute for the call off the island
(remember, this is another country, not another state), and I don't think
1-800 calls work from overseas...

Oh, and about those Porteges - if you throw an 802.11b wirless network card
in one, the need for a CD-ROM drive diminishes quickly. If you rip your
records to MP3 format, the need is gone (for me anyway).

I decided to buy one, and I am glad I did now - they no longer have 96 Meg
RAM models, only 32 Meg ones for $549... When I return from my vacation I
will be selling my L50 kit, which consists of:

L50 w/32 Meg RAM, 3.2 Gig upgrade HD, Std. battery,
AC adpater, mini port replicator, floppy
Extended life battery
Enhanced port replicator
Original packaging/manuals/and a whole lot of diskettes (Win95, drivers,
etc.)

The unit is very, very clean,a nd if anyone would like to make a private
cash offer I would be happy to review them upon my return.

Thanks,

Ken
- Original Message -
From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...


 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:03:23 -0500
 From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

  For reference, see: http://bermuda-online.org/internet.htm
 
  Also, there is a company I like called HiTechCafe in CA that has a great
 deal on a real nice (refurb) Portege 3020 laptop - they are $599 w/96 Meg
 RAM, 6.4 G HD, 10.4" 800x600 TFT display, 56K modem, etc.


 You may find your ISP has 1-800 access, or Bermuda. CompuServe is
worldwide
 too

 This Portege, looks great for my wife, but NO CD-ROM?





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Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

2001-03-14 Thread Ken Hansen

Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:32:15 -0500
From: "Ken Hansen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

Steve,

As it turns out, I think I will go for $24 for 10 hours access, additional
hours at $3-4/hr.

I think I would be hard pressed to use all 10 hours (the wife is coming
along...) in the five days, besides, I can justify $24 as a one-time
expense - compared to the cost of the trip, it is a bargain.

One thing I like to do with vacations is calculate my base burn rate, I take
the amount of money I am paying (let's say $1,000), then divide that by the
number of hours (call it 96, 4 days), then my burn rate is $10/hr just
*being* there (this of course, takes into account the cost of getting there,
the cost of eating while there, and all the disposable purchases I make
while I am there).

My burn rate for this trip is about $25/hr - if I add another $24 to the
total expense of the trip, my cost goes up to $25.20/hr... It is easy, the
ISP is willing to waive any one-time setup fees, so the total out-of-pocket
is $24.

BTW, the Bermudian Phone Co. has a surcharge for spending more than 60
minutes on one call... Interesting.

Ken
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Schone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...


 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:54:57 -0500
 From: "Steve Schone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

 Ken,

 Depends on what you plan to use the internet access for.  ATTglobal has a
 local number in Hamilton, Bermuda.  They have plans for as little as $5.95
a
 month for domestic access.  To that you would have to add $9.00/hr for
 "roaming" charges.  If you plan to only check email, you will be hard
 pressed to use and hour of time in just 5 days, unless you read all you
mail
 on-line.

 Steve Schone

 President
 Micro Solutions, Inc
 72 North Street, Suite 101
 Danbury, CT 06810
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Web Site: www.micsol.com
 phone : 203-748-4633
 fax   : 203-797-9849
 Micro Solutions is the pre-eminent Toshiba and IBM computer distributor
and
 service
 company.
 "We pride ourselves on being the best."


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:04 PM
 To: Libretto
 Subject: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...


 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:35:54 -0500
 From: "Ken Hansen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

 Hello all,

 My question has to do with getting internet acces while on a 5 day
vacation
 in Bermuda, the best I can come up with is  $30 for about 10 hours access
 (since I will only be there for 5 days, not a big problem) - does anyone
 here have any advice on providers, alternate access plans?

 For reference, see: http://bermuda-online.org/internet.htm

 Also, there is a company I like called HiTechCafe in CA that has a great
 deal on a real nice (refurb) Portege 3020 laptop - they are $599 w/96 Meg
 RAM, 6.4 G HD, 10.4" 800x600 TFT display, 56K modem, etc.

 For further information, see:

http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct2.asp?sku=PORTEGE%2D3020CTdept%5Fi
 d=14

 (My wife has a Portege 3010, with a slightly slower CPU (P/266 MMX?) and
she
 loves it - I just wish I could justify one, I might consider displacing my
 Librettos...)

 Please, buy them all so that I am not tempted! I still have the L50 I was
 going to sell to defer the price of my L110!

 Ken




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Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

2001-03-13 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:03:23 -0500
From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

 For reference, see: http://bermuda-online.org/internet.htm

 Also, there is a company I like called HiTechCafe in CA that has a great
deal on a real nice (refurb) Portege 3020 laptop - they are $599 w/96 Meg
RAM, 6.4 G HD, 10.4" 800x600 TFT display, 56K modem, etc.


You may find your ISP has 1-800 access, or Bermuda. CompuServe is worldwide
too

This Portege, looks great for my wife, but NO CD-ROM?

Thanks

Pres Waterman W2PW
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Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

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RE: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

2001-03-13 Thread Steve Schone

Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:54:57 -0500
From: "Steve Schone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

Ken,

Depends on what you plan to use the internet access for.  ATTglobal has a
local number in Hamilton, Bermuda.  They have plans for as little as $5.95 a
month for domestic access.  To that you would have to add $9.00/hr for
"roaming" charges.  If you plan to only check email, you will be hard
pressed to use and hour of time in just 5 days, unless you read all you mail
on-line.

Steve Schone

President
Micro Solutions, Inc
72 North Street, Suite 101
Danbury, CT 06810
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: www.micsol.com
phone : 203-748-4633
fax   : 203-797-9849
Micro Solutions is the pre-eminent Toshiba and IBM computer distributor and
service
company.
"We pride ourselves on being the best."


-Original Message-
From: Ken Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:04 PM
To: Libretto
Subject: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...


Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:35:54 -0500
From: "Ken Hansen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

Hello all,

My question has to do with getting internet acces while on a 5 day vacation
in Bermuda, the best I can come up with is  $30 for about 10 hours access
(since I will only be there for 5 days, not a big problem) - does anyone
here have any advice on providers, alternate access plans?

For reference, see: http://bermuda-online.org/internet.htm

Also, there is a company I like called HiTechCafe in CA that has a great
deal on a real nice (refurb) Portege 3020 laptop - they are $599 w/96 Meg
RAM, 6.4 G HD, 10.4" 800x600 TFT display, 56K modem, etc.

For further information, see:
http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct2.asp?sku=PORTEGE%2D3020CTdept%5Fi
d=14

(My wife has a Portege 3010, with a slightly slower CPU (P/266 MMX?) and she
loves it - I just wish I could justify one, I might consider displacing my
Librettos...)

Please, buy them all so that I am not tempted! I still have the L50 I was
going to sell to defer the price of my L110!

Ken




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Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

2001-03-13 Thread David Nedved

Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:11:14 -0800 (PST)
From: David Nedved [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

--- Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This Portege, looks great for my wife, but NO CD-ROM?

Oh come off it!  A libretto owner complaining about not having a
CD-ROM?

Actually, my 70CT is too slow and I also want a portege, but I don't
quite think that this is enough of an upgrade.  I'm looking at the 3490
(700? mhz, 128-256 MB, 20 GB, 1024x768, integrated 56K  LAN, 3.4? lbs,
fast IRda, USB, $2400 direct from Toshiba).  Does anyone have any
experience with the Portege line (specifically the 3490)? 
Specifically, is a 3.something pound Portege still easy to toss into a
backpack and not really notice it or does the bigger footprint make it
a lot harder to bring along than the Libretto?  The weight isn't much
more, but the size certainly is...

It's such a shame that the newest libby is so limited in processor and
RAM.  I can see that Toshiba is trying to make this a "niche item", but
I use my 70CT day-in day-out as my only computer, and just can't see
paying $2600 from dynamism for a 266 with 64 MB and a screen with 480
pixels vertically... even if it is the latest greatest libby (with a
camera - whoop de do).  Too bad they seem to have dropped the line
completely...  I suppose I'll keep my 70ct for what it's good at, and
get something else to carry around and work on daily...

Also, do any Toshiba's come with FireWire or are they not going along
with that standard?  I hate the Sony's but they have a machine similar
to the Portege that I won't buy because it doesn't have IR and it has a
touchpad instead of a pointer... but at least it has USB and FireWire. 
Given the choice, I NEED my IR, but I hate to buy a computer in 2001
that still doesn't support FireWire...

Any opinions welcome...

Thanks,

David

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Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

2001-03-13 Thread Marc @ American Elevator

Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:41:22 -0800
From: "Marc @ American Elevator" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

David,

Check out the 2 models in the new Fujitsu LX series.  Looks like the best Libretto 
replacements to date. Drawbacks are slightly larger footprint than the Libretto, 
Crusoe processor and weird screen sizes. The only other option in this size class is 
the Casio Fiva. There are some 'issues' with these machines too of course.  Fiva has 
an 800 x 600 format screen and the Japanese model has 96MB ram available.  Oh for a 
perfect world...

I just cannot bring myself to make the move to anything bigger in size yet, but if I 
was going to right now, one of these is probably what I would go to.  My 110CT is 
seeming awfully slow these days...

http://www.dynamism.com/index.shtml

Marc


  - Original Message - 
  From: David Nedved 
  To: Libretto 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...


  Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:11:14 -0800 (PST)
  From: David Nedved [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

  --- Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This Portege, looks great for my wife, but NO CD-ROM?

  Oh come off it!  A libretto owner complaining about not having a
  CD-ROM?

  Actually, my 70CT is too slow and I also want a portege, but I don't
  quite think that this is enough of an upgrade.  I'm looking at the 3490
  (700? mhz, 128-256 MB, 20 GB, 1024x768, integrated 56K  LAN, 3.4? lbs,
  fast IRda, USB, $2400 direct from Toshiba).  Does anyone have any
  experience with the Portege line (specifically the 3490)? 
  Specifically, is a 3.something pound Portege still easy to toss into a
  backpack and not really notice it or does the bigger footprint make it
  a lot harder to bring along than the Libretto?  The weight isn't much
  more, but the size certainly is...

  It's such a shame that the newest libby is so limited in processor and
  RAM.  I can see that Toshiba is trying to make this a "niche item", but
  I use my 70CT day-in day-out as my only computer, and just can't see
  paying $2600 from dynamism for a 266 with 64 MB and a screen with 480
  pixels vertically... even if it is the latest greatest libby (with a
  camera - whoop de do).  Too bad they seem to have dropped the line
  completely...  I suppose I'll keep my 70ct for what it's good at, and
  get something else to carry around and work on daily...

  Also, do any Toshiba's come with FireWire or are they not going along
  with that standard?  I hate the Sony's but they have a machine similar
  to the Portege that I won't buy because it doesn't have IR and it has a
  touchpad instead of a pointer... but at least it has USB and FireWire. 
  Given the choice, I NEED my IR, but I hate to buy a computer in 2001
  that still doesn't support FireWire...

  Any opinions welcome...

  Thanks,

  David

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Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

2001-03-13 Thread David Nedved

Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:14:50 -0800 (PST)
From: David Nedved [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Overseas access and a great deal on a Portege laptop...

--- "Marc @ American Elevator" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check out the 2 models in the new Fujitsu LX series.  Looks like the
 best Libretto replacements to date. Drawbacks are slightly larger
 footprint than the Libretto, Crusoe processor and weird screen sizes.
 The only other option in this size class is the Casio Fiva. There are
 some 'issues' with these machines too of course.  Fiva has an 800 x
 600 format screen and the Japanese model has 96MB ram available.  Oh
 for a perfect world...

They are indeed nice, but the specs on dynamism don't mention IR for
either of them.  With it being the only port on my 70CT I've gotten
quite used to having it.  IR sync with Palm, IR connection to mobile
phone (still have to get it working), shooting files back and forth
with other enlightened users via IR, etc.  All with no cables.  Nice.

Can't see giving up IR on an "upgrade" machine, although these are VERY
nice.  As much as I like Linas Torvalds, I just can't get that excited
about Crusoe.  I'd be running Windows on the machine, so the 533 Crusoe
performs like what, a 300 or so Pentium when it's emulating IAPX?

Thanks for the quick response... I'll keep looking and hoping, and when
I eventulaly can't take it anymore I'll buy the best thing I've
found...

David

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