Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:23:57 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Sch=F6ll?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code To finish the report about my problems charging my libretto and the error codes. I got a new battery from the supplier. All is ok, no flashing orange led. The battery gets charged. I'am glad, but the error code Battery voltage is over the limit. makes no sense at all, when given to a new, but defect battery. Thanks for helping Jürgen Schöll
Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:11:25 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code --- Jürgen Schöll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to believe this, but is there anyone, who could confirm this by translating the error code? Well... from what I can figure out from the service manual, that sequence of blinks should indicate a battery pack problem where the, Battery voltage is over the limit. To determine the error code, the sequences have to be converted from binary to hex. It seems your series of blinks would calculate to 10h. Though I'm not up on the very technical aspects of things. Neil just posted the URL to his copy of the 50/70 manual here: http://www.nbarnes.easynet.co.uk/libretto/li50_70ct.pdf So have a look in there. Here's what I copied from the pertinent section: == 2.3 Power Supply Troubleshooting The power supply controls many functions and components. To determine if the power supply is functioning properly, start with Procedure 1 and continue with the other Procedures as instructed. The procedures described in this section are: Procedure 1: Power Status Check Procedure 2: Error Code Check Procedure 3: Connection Check Procedure 4: Replacement Check Procedure 1 Power Status Check The following icons indicate the power supply status: q Battery icon q DC IN icon The power supply controller displays the power supply status through the Battery and the DC IN icons as shown in the tables below. Table 2-1 Battery icon == Battery icon Power supply status === Lights orange Quick charge *1 Lights green Battery has a full charge and the AC adapter is connected Blinks orange The battery level becomes low while operating the computer on (even intervals) battery power*2 Doesnt light Any condition other than those above. If the battery becomes too hot charging will stop and the battery icon will go out even if the AC adapter is connected *1 One of two battery levels becomes low. *2 AutoResume Off will be executed soon. Table 2-2 DC IN icon DC IN iconPower supply status ===== Lights green DC power is being supplied from the AC adapter Blinks orange Power supply malfunction*3 Blinks green Stand-by state Doesnt light Any condition other than those above *3 When the power supply controller detects a malfunction, the DC IN icon blinks and an error code is displayed. To check the power supply status, install a battery pack and connect an AC adapter. Check 1 If the DC IN icon flashes orange, go to Procedure 2. Check 2 If the DC IN icon does not light, go to Procedure 3. Check 3 If the Battery icon does not light orange or green, go to Procedure 4. CAUTION: Use only an AC adapter that is manufactured specifically for the Libretto 50CT/70CT. If you use a different AC adapter, the computers power supply may malfunction or a fuse on the system board may be blown. Procedure 2 Error Code Check If the microprocessor detects a malfunction, the DC IN icon blinks orange. The blink pattern indicates an error as shown below. [X] Start Off for 2 seconds [X] Error code (8 bit) 1: On for one second 0: On for half second Interval between data bits: Off for half second Error codes begin with the least significant digit. For example: Error code 12h (Error codes are given in hexadecimal) Read-- On: --||-| |--| |-| |-| |--|_|-|_|-|_|-| Off: ||0|_|1 |_|0|_|0|_|1 |_|0|_|0|_|0|___ Start^ -Order--- Bit 0 12 3 45 6 7 [X][X] Check 1 Convert the DC IN icon blink pattern into the hexadecimal error code and compare it to the tables below. [X] DC power supplied through AC adapter == Error code Meaning == === 01h AC adapter voltage is over the limit (16.5 V) [X] Battery pack Error code Meaning == === 10hBattery voltage is over the limit 11hBattery charge current is over the limit 12hBattery discharge current is over the maximum allowed limit when there is no load 13hBattery voltage is under the limit [X] B5V,VCC output == Error code Meaning == === 20hVCC voltage is over the limit 21hVCC voltage is under the limit 22hVCC does not start up when power supply is turned on [X] B3V output == Error code Meaning == === 30hB3V voltage is over the limit 31hB3V voltage is under the limit 33hB3V does not start up when the power
Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:45:06 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code Jürgen... I had the AC plug in my 50CT fail just a few weeks back. I wonder if you're having the same problem. I pluged in the AC cord without the battery inserted, and the system started to boot, but then suddenly shut down. I looked into the Libby's AC socket, and found that I could move one of the metal connectors. I took the system apart, and found that the plastic socket had broken into 2 pieces. I just haven't gotten around to epoxying the two halves back together. I wonder if what you're seeing is the same broken AC connector that sometimes makes a connection with the power cord, and sometimes doesn't. The batteries then sometimes getting charged, and then going dead and causing the blinking LEDs?? Matt --- Jürgen Schöll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:33:52 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Sch=F6ll?=) Subject: Charging problem on 50ct Error code Hello folks, maybe someone can help me. Yesterday my beloved libretto suddenly crashed. Everything went dark, the battery led was dark, only the DC-IN led flashes. The libretto was connected with the AC adapter to the wall socket, a 2600 mh battery was in the libretto. The led flashes an error code - I suppose: After 2 seconds off at the start, there are 4 short flashes, then comes 1 long flash (1 second) und then follow 3 short flashes. Then again 2 seconds dark, 4 short flashes and so on. It looks like 1 000. Is this a binary signal? What is the meaning? The AC- adapter seems to be ok. It gives 15,08 V and I can use the libretto with the small batteries (1300 hm). The charging of this small batteries is ok. I can use the libretto without any battery, only withe the AC-adapter. I tried a totally new battery (2600 mh), all went dark, I can't charge it. I tried a small older battery, everything seemd to be ok. Today morning I retried an older 2600 mh battery, which caused yesterday the same faults. Now the charging led lights orange, everything seems allright. When I insert another older battery, which produced the evening before the above mentioned faults, everything went dark, only the error code flashes. When I insert the new uncharged battery (2600 mh) nothing goes, the DC-in led flashes the error code. When I unplug the libretto, replug ist and then insert an 1300 mh battery everything goes. The batteries, which work, have a voltage of 12,5 V at the most outward contacts and 11,97 V between contact 1 and 3. The batteries, that don't work have slightly different voltages: 12,53 most outward, 12,03 between contact 1 and 3. I don't think that matters. I have no idea, what is wrong. The contacts of the batteries are ok. Not all 2600 mh batteries are broken. The AC-adapter charges (but only small batteries). Cheers Jürgen __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com
Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:41:16 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Sch=F6ll?=) Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code Thank you for answering, Matt I tested the plug; it's ok. I also tested the socket; it's ok too. The status is now, that 3 batteries (all are older ones, two 1300 mh and one 2600 mh) work. The libretto works fine, when with these batteries in or out. It crashes immediately and the damned error code appears, when I insert the newer 2600 mh batteries and the libretto is plugged in. When the libretto is not plugged to the AC adapter and I insert the above mentioned batteries it is not startable. Everything stays dark. When I plug in and try to charge the error code 1 000 comes. Is this the error code indicating bafterie failure? Or indicates it, that something ist wrong with the charging unit in the libretto? But I can charge the other batteries! At the moment I think, that the unprobable has happend: 2 batteries crashed at the same moment, one old, one totally new. I would like to believe this, but is there anyone, who could confirm this by translating the error code? Jürgen - Original Message - From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:45:06 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code Jürgen... I had the AC plug in my 50CT fail just a few weeks back. I wonder if you're having the same problem. I pluged in the AC cord without the battery inserted, and the system started to boot, but then suddenly shut down. I looked into the Libby's AC socket, and found that I could move one of the metal connectors. I took the system apart, and found that the plastic socket had broken into 2 pieces. I just haven't gotten around to epoxying the two halves back together. I wonder if what you're seeing is the same broken AC connector that sometimes makes a connection with the power cord, and sometimes doesn't. The batteries then sometimes getting charged, and then going dead and causing the blinking LEDs?? Matt --- Jürgen Schöll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:33:52 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Sch=F6ll?=) Subject: Charging problem on 50ct Error code Hello folks, maybe someone can help me. Yesterday my beloved libretto suddenly crashed. Everything went dark, the battery led was dark, only the DC-IN led flashes. The libretto was connected with the AC adapter to the wall socket, a 2600 mh battery was in the libretto. The led flashes an error code - I suppose: After 2 seconds off at the start, there are 4 short flashes, then comes 1 long flash (1 second) und then follow 3 short flashes. Then again 2 seconds dark, 4 short flashes and so on. It looks like 1 000. Is this a binary signal? What is the meaning? The AC- adapter seems to be ok. It gives 15,08 V and I can use the libretto with the small batteries (1300 hm). The charging of this small batteries is ok. I can use the libretto without any battery, only withe the AC-adapter. I tried a totally new battery (2600 mh), all went dark, I can't charge it. I tried a small older battery, everything seemd to be ok. Today morning I retried an older 2600 mh battery, which caused yesterday the same faults. Now the charging led lights orange, everything seems allright. When I insert another older battery, which produced the evening before the above mentioned faults, everything went dark, only the error code flashes. When I insert the new uncharged battery (2600 mh) nothing goes, the DC-in led flashes the error code. When I unplug the libretto, replug ist and then insert an 1300 mh battery everything goes. The batteries, which work, have a voltage of 12,5 V at the most outward contacts and 11,97 V between contact 1 and 3. The batteries, that don't work have slightly different voltages: 12,53 most outward, 12,03 between contact 1 and 3. I don't think that matters. I have no idea, what is wrong. The contacts of the batteries are ok. Not all 2600 mh batteries are broken. The AC-adapter charges (but only small batteries). Cheers Jürgen __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com
Re: RE: [LIB] Charging problem and dead batteries
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 5:32:43 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [LIB] Charging problem and dead batteries From: Steven Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/07/28 Mon PM 07:07:27 GMT Hi all. I too was wondering if any one out there knows a UK company, either selling the battery packs or just compatible battery cells so that I could replace the one in the standard lib battery unit. Steve, I can't recall the UK suppliers immediately but I have found a few in recent months... search for batteries and neil in the archives. Neil - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Charging problem
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:18:53 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] The battery simply reaches its end of life. There is no warning or slow dieing. It's quick and sudden death. I know it because I'm on my third battery now. They average about a year and half depends on usage. If you want longer living battery, keep it on AC power all the time! Li-ion batteries only have 500 to 1000 recharge cycles. My current battery has already beat all the odds and in its third year now (granted I don't use the lib that often and it's always on AC). It's going to be dead anytime. Don't know if there still is company out there selling Lib battery packs?! Well... I still have the original battery in my 50CT that I bought in Jan. '98, and it's still working fine. Mainly because 95% of the time I've used it, it's on a power adapter, and always kept plugged in. This used 100CT I've had for less than a year has also seen the same type of use. I thought I'd see some radical drop in time the battery would power the system before it died. It seems that it's been powering the system for a couple of hours or more before it wouldn't power the system anymore. Can someone tell me which course is the cheaper way to go, rebuilding it from cells from a 50/70 battery, or buying new cells to replace the old ones if I rebuild the battery? Then of course there's Johns mega-battery solution I guess, but I'd really prefer not to spend that kind of money right now. Thanks, Matt _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Charging problem
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:09:58 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem In a message dated 7/29/03 5:20:38 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can someone tell me which course is the cheaper way to go, rebuilding it from cells from a 50/70 battery, or buying new cells to replace the old ones if I rebuild the battery? Then of course there's Johns mega-battery solution I guess, but I'd really prefer not to spend that kind of money right now. Thanks, Matt Depends entirely on the price you pay for a new PA2498UR pack. I bought 3 from an ebayer who didn't know what they were - cost $7 for the first 2, then somebody bid up the last one to $20. There're also some PA2503URs on ebay with apparently non-standard cells giving 2600 mAh and selling for around $60. This site: http://www.sciplus.com/photoPopUp.cfm?photo=33962.jpg; name=Camcorder%20Battery shows a JVC camcorder battery containing what appear to be the proper Li-Ion cells for $6.95/pr, so about $21 for a battery case full. I emailed them for dimensions, and they are very close to the size of the Panasonic cells in my PA2503 packs. Haven't used them, though. Lee ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Charging problem
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:04:54 -0700 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:09:58 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem In a message dated 7/29/03 5:20:38 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can someone tell me which course is the cheaper way to go, rebuilding it from cells from a 50/70 battery, or buying new cells to replace the old ones if I rebuild the battery? Then of course there's Johns mega-battery solution I guess, but I'd really prefer not to spend that kind of money right now. Another good source of cells would be battery packs from other laptops ... one of my L100 packs was rebuilt from cells taken out of an early model Portege pack (the one that seems to be doing bizzare things to me but I'm pretty sure thats my soldering and not the cells) ... picked it up for about $10USD when one of the local computer warehouse places was clearing out 'junk' stock (the pack was brand new, still with the original Toshiba seal over the box) ... Now to find another similar pack to replace the cells in my (original) L100 pack that has just died on me ... *sigh* ... - Raymond ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Charging problem
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:06:01 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem I'm having problems charging the battery on my 100CT too Raymond. I was about to post a question about it when I found your note. I've checked the service manual, aksed Iris, and search the Lib list archives, but can't find an answer. My 100 won't power on from the battery which sees to be dead, thought it had been powering the system fine the other day. It does boot with the AC adapter connected. But for some reason the LED for the battery suddenly started blinking twice quickly, staying on for a few seconds, then blinking twice again, and continuing that way. This pattern persists wither or not the system is booted. Unless there's a simple solution, I'm afraid either either the battery or charging circuit has gone bad. I'm wondering if this might be connected to having O/Ced the system to 266, and all of the WinXP crashes the system has been subjected to. Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated. Matt From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all! Looks like my trusty L100 has decided that it doesn't want to play nice anymore :-( I plug the power supply and battery in and, if the laptop is turned on, the charging light comes on and the power icon shows charging but the battery never makes it beyond about 58%. Unplug external power and the battery starts discharging. I get about 1h20m or so out of it which is about right for a half charge given the age of the battery. However, things get weirder when the laptop is turned off. With the laptop plugged in, initially the power light goes green and the battery light goes orange (as normal). However, after a while the battery light turns off altogether (it SHOULD go green when the battery is charged) ... If I take the battery pack out and plug it back in again, the orange charge light comes back on for a while before going out altogether again. All this started quite suddenly ... it was all working OK then I ran the battery all the way down on a flight from Rome to Tokyo (on an Alitalia 767 of all things ... don't get me started ...). These problems started the next time I plugged it in (actually thats not quite true, the first time I plugged it in, instead of the battery light coming on, the power light flashed orange indicating a power problem) ... Anyone else seen such symptoms or have any ideas? *sigh* I wish I found out this thing was having problems before I left Tokyo (the next time I plugged it in after the flight was in Australia) ... I could have gotten a nice replacement when I went to Akihabara! - Raymond P.S. Yes, I'm back! Hopefully I'll be a little more active on the list than I have been for the past few months! _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] Charging problem
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:33:51 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Charging problem I have the 100CT and had a similar problem about 1 year ago. I had a spare battery at the time, so I just put it in and started to charge it / use it. It has been fine ever since. This suggests the O/C'ing and WIN XP have nothing to do with it, since I am still running at 166 MHz and WIN95. It was just a battery that had reached end of life, and the sensing circuit inside the 100CT is probably doing exactly what it is supposed to do to warn you of either low battery voltage or low charge rate. To verify this, I would suggest trying another known good battery to see if you get the same results. I know this may be impossible if you don't have another battery, but it is the best way to isolate the problem. Does anyone know how to connect a battery from another source, at least temporarily, just to verify the charging circuits are working correctly? Dick -Original Message- From: Matthew Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:10 PM To: Libretto Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:06:01 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem I'm having problems charging the battery on my 100CT too Raymond. I was about to post a question about it when I found your note. I've checked the service manual, aksed Iris, and search the Lib list archives, but can't find an answer. My 100 won't power on from the battery which sees to be dead, thought it had been powering the system fine the other day. It does boot with the AC adapter connected. But for some reason the LED for the battery suddenly started blinking twice quickly, staying on for a few seconds, then blinking twice again, and continuing that way. This pattern persists wither or not the system is booted. Unless there's a simple solution, I'm afraid either either the battery or charging circuit has gone bad. I'm wondering if this might be connected to having O/Ced the system to 266, and all of the WinXP crashes the system has been subjected to. Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated. Matt From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all! Looks like my trusty L100 has decided that it doesn't want to play nice anymore :-( I plug the power supply and battery in and, if the laptop is turned on, the charging light comes on and the power icon shows charging but the battery never makes it beyond about 58%. Unplug external power and the battery starts discharging. I get about 1h20m or so out of it which is about right for a half charge given the age of the battery. However, things get weirder when the laptop is turned off. With the laptop plugged in, initially the power light goes green and the battery light goes orange (as normal). However, after a while the battery light turns off altogether (it SHOULD go green when the battery is charged) ... If I take the battery pack out and plug it back in again, the orange charge light comes back on for a while before going out altogether again. All this started quite suddenly ... it was all working OK then I ran the battery all the way down on a flight from Rome to Tokyo (on an Alitalia 767 of all things ... don't get me started ...). These problems started the next time I plugged it in (actually thats not quite true, the first time I plugged it in, instead of the battery light coming on, the power light flashed orange indicating a power problem) ... Anyone else seen such symptoms or have any ideas? *sigh* I wish I found out this thing was having problems before I left Tokyo (the next time I plugged it in after the flight was in Australia) ... I could have gotten a nice replacement when I went to Akihabara! - Raymond P.S. Yes, I'm back! Hopefully I'll be a little more active on the list than I have been for the past few months! _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's
Re: [LIB] Charging problem
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:46:50 -0400 From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem The battery simply reaches its end of life. There is no warning or slow dieing. It's quick and sudden death. I know it because I'm on my third battery now. They average about a year and half depends on usage. If you want longer living battery, keep it on AC power all the time! Li-ion batteries only have 500 to 1000 recharge cycles. My current battery has already beat all the odds and in its third year now (granted I don't use the lib that often and it's always on AC). It's going to be dead anytime. Don't know if there still is company out there selling Lib battery packs?! - Original Message - From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:06:01 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem I'm having problems charging the battery on my 100CT too Raymond. I was about to post a question about it when I found your note. I've checked the service manual, aksed Iris, and search the Lib list archives, but can't find an answer. My 100 won't power on from the battery which sees to be dead, thought it had been powering the system fine the other day. It does boot with the AC adapter connected. But for some reason the LED for the battery suddenly started blinking twice quickly, staying on for a few seconds, then blinking twice again, and continuing that way. This pattern persists wither or not the system is booted. Unless there's a simple solution, I'm afraid either either the battery or charging circuit has gone bad. I'm wondering if this might be connected to having O/Ced the system to 266, and all of the WinXP crashes the system has been subjected to. Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated. Matt From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all! Looks like my trusty L100 has decided that it doesn't want to play nice anymore :-( I plug the power supply and battery in and, if the laptop is turned on, the charging light comes on and the power icon shows charging but the battery never makes it beyond about 58%. Unplug external power and the battery starts discharging. I get about 1h20m or so out of it which is about right for a half charge given the age of the battery. However, things get weirder when the laptop is turned off. With the laptop plugged in, initially the power light goes green and the battery light goes orange (as normal). However, after a while the battery light turns off altogether (it SHOULD go green when the battery is charged) ... If I take the battery pack out and plug it back in again, the orange charge light comes back on for a while before going out altogether again. All this started quite suddenly ... it was all working OK then I ran the battery all the way down on a flight from Rome to Tokyo (on an Alitalia 767 of all things ... don't get me started ...). These problems started the next time I plugged it in (actually thats not quite true, the first time I plugged it in, instead of the battery light coming on, the power light flashed orange indicating a power problem) ... Anyone else seen such symptoms or have any ideas? *sigh* I wish I found out this thing was having problems before I left Tokyo (the next time I plugged it in after the flight was in Australia) ... I could have gotten a nice replacement when I went to Akihabara! - Raymond P.S. Yes, I'm back! Hopefully I'll be a little more active on the list than I have been for the past few months! _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] Charging problem and dead batteries
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:04:58 +0100 From: Steven Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Charging problem and dead batteries Hi all. I too was wondering if any one out there knows a UK company, either selling the battery packs or just compatible battery cells so that I could replace the one in the standard lib battery unit. -Original Message- From: Lawrence Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2003 19:49 To: Libretto Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:46:50 -0400 From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem The battery simply reaches its end of life. There is no warning or slow dieing. It's quick and sudden death. I know it because I'm on my third battery now. They average about a year and half depends on usage. If you want longer living battery, keep it on AC power all the time! Li-ion batteries only have 500 to 1000 recharge cycles. My current battery has already beat all the odds and in its third year now (granted I don't use the lib that often and it's always on AC). It's going to be dead anytime. Don't know if there still is company out there selling Lib battery packs?! - Original Message - From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:06:01 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem I'm having problems charging the battery on my 100CT too Raymond. I was about to post a question about it when I found your note. I've checked the service manual, aksed Iris, and search the Lib list archives, but can't find an answer. My 100 won't power on from the battery which sees to be dead, thought it had been powering the system fine the other day. It does boot with the AC adapter connected. But for some reason the LED for the battery suddenly started blinking twice quickly, staying on for a few seconds, then blinking twice again, and continuing that way. This pattern persists wither or not the system is booted. Unless there's a simple solution, I'm afraid either either the battery or charging circuit has gone bad. I'm wondering if this might be connected to having O/Ced the system to 266, and all of the WinXP crashes the system has been subjected to. Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated. Matt From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all! Looks like my trusty L100 has decided that it doesn't want to play nice anymore :-( I plug the power supply and battery in and, if the laptop is turned on, the charging light comes on and the power icon shows charging but the battery never makes it beyond about 58%. Unplug external power and the battery starts discharging. I get about 1h20m or so out of it which is about right for a half charge given the age of the battery. However, things get weirder when the laptop is turned off. With the laptop plugged in, initially the power light goes green and the battery light goes orange (as normal). However, after a while the battery light turns off altogether (it SHOULD go green when the battery is charged) ... If I take the battery pack out and plug it back in again, the orange charge light comes back on for a while before going out altogether again. All this started quite suddenly ... it was all working OK then I ran the battery all the way down on a flight from Rome to Tokyo (on an Alitalia 767 of all things ... don't get me started ...). These problems started the next time I plugged it in (actually thats not quite true, the first time I plugged it in, instead of the battery light coming on, the power light flashed orange indicating a power problem) ... Anyone else seen such symptoms or have any ideas? *sigh* I wish I found out this thing was having problems before I left Tokyo (the next time I plugged it in after the flight was in Australia) I could have gotten a nice replacement when I went to Akihabara! - Raymond P.S. Yes, I'm back! Hopefully I'll be a little more active on the list than I have been for the past few months! _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest
RE: [LIB] Charging problem
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:49:27 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Charging problem At 11:37 AM 28/07/2003 -0700, you wrote: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:33:51 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Charging problem I have the 100CT and had a similar problem about 1 year ago. I had a spare battery at the time, so I just put it in and started to charge it / use it. It has been fine ever since. This suggests the O/C'ing and WIN XP have nothing to do with it, since I am still running at 166 MHz and WIN95. It was just a battery that had reached end of life, and the sensing circuit inside the 100CT is probably doing exactly what it is supposed to do to warn you of either low battery voltage or low charge rate. *sigh* it'd be nice if the laptop gave you warning about this or at least died gracefully ... hehe I actually did try my second battery pack (the one I replaced the cells in) when I got this problem but it wouldn't even power the laptop ... I just tried it again and it seems to be working ... looks like my solder joints in there somewhere might need a little work ... hehe Tnx for all the advice! Now to go find some more cells to shove into this dead pack ... - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
