RE: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning

2000-11-16 Thread Alexandre Kaoukhov

Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:09:00 +0100
From: "Alexandre Kaoukhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning


> Alexandre Kaoukhov a écrit :
>
> > As Win98 hibernation question is not asked since long I can
> conclude that
> > there are no "normal" users left on this list.
>
> Hibernation is not "Win98 hibernation".
> Libretti do hibernate with Win95, Linux, and other OS in the same manner,
> because hibernation is not managed by the OS, but by the BIOS.

Oops! Should have been hibernation under Win98.




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Re: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning

2000-11-16 Thread David Chien

Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:57:07 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning

Besides Ontrack's and IBM's disk manager program which will let any computer
use >8GB HDs, there's this post earlier this year:

Just installed the Tosh 12mb drive in my L100 on Monday.  I'm running Win95 in 
my
Libretto and Win98 in my desktop, which may or may not be relevant.  After a 
few
gyrations, I have a 12gb partition with 78mb free at the end and suspend/resume
works perfectly, and faster than before.

The successful procedure boiled down to this:

In the L100, using the Toshiba Companion Diskette or a boot disk with fdisk and
format, make a primary partition with fdisk to max size.  Then format c: /s.  I
think this would also work in the desktop.  After this, I had an 8gb partition.

I then transferred the drive to my desktop computer, using a 3.5 to 2.5 
adapter.
With Partition Magic 4.0, I was able to enlarge the partition to 12gb, leaving 
78mb
free space at the end.  I had previously backed up my 4 gig drive to a hard 
drive in
the desktop, so, after a restore to the new drive, it was just a matter of
re-inserting it to the Libretto and booting.

Works fine.  The 12gb drive is a sliding fit, whereas the smaller drives were a
loose fit.

One humorous thing, I actually used a boot disk from my desktop, so when the 
Lib was
booting it said "Starting Windows 98."  Restoring the io.sys file took care of 
that.

Another strange item is that PM 4.0 on the Libretto only sees 8gb,  while on 
the
desktop it sees 12gb.
My file manager and everything else I've checked sees 12gb, though

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Re: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning

2000-11-16 Thread David Chien

Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:02:46 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning

If you have a new HD in the Libretto that is 8GB or smaller, then a fdisk
followed by format should automatically put the hibernation partition at the
very end of the HD w/o any user intervention.  You only need to worry about
creating the single primary partition - the space for the hibernation partition
is automatically subtracted.

I forget whether the L100 bios is capable of fully supporting larger sized HDs.
Either way, the hibernation partition will either be automatically created at
the end of 8GB, or at the end of the HD.  You can test this easily by saving a
big file crossing the 8GB limit, hibernate, and see if it becomes messed up. 
If so, then the hibernation is at 8GB, otherwise, at the end of the HD.

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Re: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning

2000-11-16 Thread Christian Gennerat

Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:08:15 +0100
From: Christian Gennerat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning

Alexandre Kaoukhov a écrit :

> As Win98 hibernation question is not asked since long I can conclude that
> there are no "normal" users left on this list.

Hibernation is not "Win98 hibernation".
Libretti do hibernate with Win95, Linux, and other OS in the same manner,
because hibernation is not managed by the OS, but by the BIOS.

some Toshiba BIOS give access to the LBA.
Libretti BIOS do not.
So it is where you feel it.
But it requires an area sized by your main memory and your video memory.





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Re: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning

2000-11-16 Thread Hhvgoetz

Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:26:28 EST
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Subject: Re: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning

>Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:36:38 +0100
> From: Kapusta Gerhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: The never ending story: Hibernation and the >correct partitioning

> Q: How do I have to partition a new, blank disk on a >Libretto 110 to allow
> correct hibernation?
> A: Format C: with FAT16, then it works.
> No more comments neccessary...

Well, this is correct for a normal Libby with a -8GB disk. The bios 
automatically reserves the necessary space and U will not be able to see it 
with fdisk. 

As the bios itself does not like 8GB+ disks this does not work with the 
bigger disks when U try to access the space above 8gb with some software (for 
example Ontrack Disk Manager). 
Without the disk manager U will never get any problems... but U won't access 
any space above 8GB. 

Regards

Olaf




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RE: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning

2000-11-15 Thread Alexandre Kaoukhov

Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:29:00 +0100
From: "Alexandre Kaoukhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning


> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:36:38 +0100
> From: Kapusta Gerhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: The never ending story: Hibernation and the correct partitioning
>
> I can't imagine that a "normal" user is able to calculate sectors and
> cylinders and make experiments with disk-editors...
>

As Win98 hibernation question is not asked since long I can conclude that
there are no "normal" users left on this list.
More seriously you must use any partition utility that allows you manipulate
cylenders. I think that most secure option would be to leave space from 1010
to 1028 cylinders unpartitioned. I mentioned this before that I will not
proceed with disk editor until I get buckup everything. But if you wish you
can use Norton DiskEditor to verify where BIOS hibernates effectively. From
DOS this utility allows you access entire disk even without overlay
software. You sould just calculate from cyl/head/sect to relative sectors
then there is an option to "Fill" with any pattern. Leave Bios hibernate
then boot from DOS. There is only one thing I still doubt in this approach :
Windows always swaps some data in order to leave a few of RAM free.
Good luck,
Alexandre




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