Re: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?

2008-08-22 Thread Matthew Hanson
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:27:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?

--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   
> Wow, it's been so long since I've posted to this
> list I didn't even have 
> a profile set up to send email from this account anymore!
> >_<

Hi Raymond!  Good to know you didn't fall off the edge of the world down there 
in Ozzyland.  The list sure has been dead.  But I guess everyone still onboard 
has either played out any issues long ago, or like me, is just curious what 
might be popping up.  And the Kohjinshas look to me the best replacements for 
our old Libbys than anything I've ever seen.  An old Lib sized notebook with a 
DVD drive, a relatively fast CPU, reasonable memory, et al, looks great.
 
> I've got the eee 900, very nice little machine and the
> 20GB model (4GB 
> inbuilt SSD on the motherboard + 16GB plug-in installed)
> was less than 
> $500AUD with Xandros Linux (which quickly got the boot in
> favor of 
> Kubuntu) ... 

I read where Asus has a 900 series model coming out with essentially all the 
same components as this, but with the Intel Atom 1.3MHz CPU.  

I see Amazon is now selling your model for $439.63USD after a $100 rebate.

http://www.amazon.com/Eee-PC-900-Display-Battery/dp/B00191PKJK

> the SSD is nice in that you don't need to worry about 
> thumping it around although it is a bit creepy in that you
> can't hear or feel the hard drive going ... 

This is the future.  No mechanical drives to freeze up from dropping the 
notebook.  Quiet for me is fantastic, esp for listening to music through 
external speakers.

> true it isn't going to store all your 
> multimedia files but I have a Hyperdrive Colorspace O for
> that :-D

http://www.hyperdrive.com/HyperDrive-COLORSPACE-O-Casing-Only-p/hdcso-000.htm

Slick!

> The Kohjinsha UMPCs are looking very tempting though and are going back 
> to Libretto-like in size (especially the models without inbuilt optical 
> drives) ... and amazingly they also pack a 1.3GHz Atom, 2GB of RAM, 
> proper hard drive (could be good or bad), flip/swivel touchscreen, 
> webcam, a couple of USB ports, 3-in-1 cardreader, ExpressCard slot, GPS 
> and TV tuner! O_o Goodness knows how they manage to fit all that in ...

Okay... I'm hooked Raymond.  I've done some reading.  There are a number of 
models.  And it's frustrating that there are new models being sold online that 
aren't even listed on the Kohjinsha website.

Here's Conics offering:

http://www.conics.net/catalog/index.php?currency=USD

They list SR, SC and SX lines there.  But if you click the specs dropdown on 
the Kohjinsha website, they only list SR, but then SH and SA lines.

http://www.kohjinsha.com.sg/

Also:

* The TV tuner is useless, as it only works in Japan
* The GPS is only available on specific models.
* There seems to be no model with both GPS and a DVD drive (space?)

The R8KPO6A on Conics is listed as measuring 233 x 177 x 33mm even WITH the DVD 
drive. That's amazing to me. The 110s are 210 X 132 X 35mm.

http://conics.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=229

But the SR8KPO6A only has a 800MHz Intel A110 processor.  However the SX3WP06MA 
at Conics has that Intel Atom 1.3MHz CPU you mentioned Raymond.:

http://conics.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=298

Now of course I'm immediately thinking, are they working on a SR8KPO6A 233 x 
177 x 33mm sized model with the Intel Atom 1.3MHz CPU?  Somewhere along the way 
I found this EBay Kohjinsha auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Kohjinsha-SX-SX3KP06MA-BLACK-ATOM-UMPC-built-in-DVD-RW_W0QQitemZ230282949939QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item230282949939&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Also in the Ebay store here:

http://stores.ebay.com/KabaTek-Online

That auction shows a Kohjinsha SX3 model SX3KP06MA with the Atom 1.3MHz that 
from the pictures looks identical in size to the SR8KPO6A over at Conics.  But 
something's wrong there.  The specs on the EBay auction lists the dimensions 
for the SX3KP06MA as 189mm (W) x 155mm (D) x 25.4~33mm (H).  That can't be.  

I've seen this on EBay before where a seller will use the same picture when 
selling 2-3 different products in then same basic line, say SX here, but that 
are different specific models.  Like the SX3KP06MA in that auction, and the 
SX3WP06MA from Conics... the difference between the two being the 4th character 
where the W and K are transposed.

I've written the seller about the discrepancy, and I'm guessing the SX3KP06MA 
in that auction is going to end up having the same dimensions as the SX3WP06MA 
on the Conics site.  I hope I’m wrong though!

I’m still at a loss for an explanation for why Kohjinsha has newer models being 
s

Re: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?

2008-08-19 Thread Raymond

Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:00:07 +1000
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?

Matthew Hanson wrote:

Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:02:47 +
From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?


  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyways, just testing to see if this list still works. Figure by now, anyone with 
any interesting in a mini-notebook has moved onto the dozens of eeePC competitors 
out today for ~$500. These are the 'best available' mini-notebooks out right now 
for a decent price, and vs. any Libretto, you'd really have to wonder about anyone 
buying a decade ol' Libretto vs. the eeePC.<



The eeepc>is< a slick little notebook... but flash memory??  I see they're up to 
12GB... but these days that's pretty pathetic for anyone storing multimedia files.  And 
$600 for the 12GB model?  Flash memory>is< getting cheaper.  But at today's prices 
it's just not practical for me cost-wise yet.
  
Wow, it's been so long since I've posted to this list I didn't even have 
a profile set up to send email from this account anymore! >_<


I've got the eee 900, very nice little machine and the 20GB model (4GB 
inbuilt SSD on the motherboard + 16GB plug-in installed) was less than 
$500AUD with Xandros Linux (which quickly got the boot in favor of 
Kubuntu) ... the SSD is nice in that you don't need to worry about 
thumping it around although it is a bit creepy in that you can't hear or 
feel the hard drive going ... true it isn't going to store all your 
multimedia files but I have a Hyperdrive Colorspace O for that :-D


The Kohjinsha UMPCs are looking very tempting though and are going back 
to Libretto-like in size (especially the models without inbuilt optical 
drives) ... and amazingly they also pack a 1.3GHz Atom, 2GB of RAM, 
proper hard drive (could be good or bad), flip/swivel touchscreen, 
webcam, a couple of USB ports, 3-in-1 cardreader, ExpressCard slot, GPS 
and TV tuner! O_o Goodness knows how they manage to fit all that in ...


- Raymond





Re: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?

2008-07-14 Thread Philip Nienhuis

Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:57:09 +1200
From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?

Hi Matt:

Matthew Hanson wrote:

Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:21:19 +
From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?


I guess the few left on the list are troupers who just don't have much to discuss anymore.  I confess I've been spending all my time on the Tosh U305-S2808 Best Buy return I won on EBay a while back for $523.  The 110 sits in its dock looking a bit sad these daze... 


Like yours, my 110 sits somewhere in a cupboard. I'm away until X-mas 
but otherwise I fire it up every few months, sometimes together with an 
old DEC 450SLC-e (with a 50 Mhz 486 DX2!) which dates back from 1994 I 
think.
It's that I've got a JVC 741 subnotebook that serves as my daily work 
horse, otherwise I might still use my 110 daily. I only use it sometimes 
for things in my LAN (like testing communication between various 
operating systems).


From Xin's list I learn that there are still people using the 110, but 
more for hobby (trying to stretch its specs or to cramp in Win-XP or the 
likes) than "production" (whatever that may mean).



The archives has our two posts Philip.  And our posts came through pretty 
quickly.  I was surprised, as I thought Dan's list server was probably clogged 
up with spam again.  So the at least the gears seem not too rusty.


The spammers probably found out that traffic is too low to benefit from 
even the microseconds they need to send their junk.


Regards,

Philip


Matt
Libretto list info: List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com To unsubscribe: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/msg16212.html> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:03:29 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
libretto@basiclink.com> Subject: Re: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?> > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:15:15 +1200> From: Philip Nienhuis 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?> > Hi Matt,> > I still receive messages (once every two 
months or so) so the list still > survives.> > I do wonder if the archives still exist.> > Tru www.webarchive.org a lot can still be found, 
but not all :-(> > Try also Xin's cool talk forums,> http://www.fixup.net/talk/> there's still traffic there on librettos.> (Funny detail: the 
forum SW doesn't seem to log you out if you close > your browser, only if you log out yourself. I seem to be logged in > perpetually there and as I 
lost my login details some years ago t

ha!
 t is > A Good Thing - for me).> > Philip> > Matthew Hanson wrote:> > Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:02:42 +> > From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Subject: OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?> > > > > > Could it be? Last post to the list I have in my mailbox and see in the online archives is the one I posted (below).> > > > MattLibretto list info: List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com To unsubscribe: http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/msg16212.html> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:49:47 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: libretto@basiclink.com> Subject: Re: [LIB] Finally need a more powerful laptop> > Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:48:10 -0700 (PDT)> From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: [LIB] Finally need a more powerful laptop> > So much for the new Hotmail interface. Here's the post again from Yahoo:> -> > Well... the demands of 

ne!

 tworking have become so demanding that I?ve just got> to get something
 relatively small and light with more power than this old> 100CT. Something for around the $500 mark. I saw a Toshiba on sale at Best> Buy last week for $429. But I?d like to 
get something with more CPU power than> it had. Something that can deal with MPEG2 video capturi> ng!> > which I read> requires at least a 1.8GHz cpu. > > This 
little Asus is close if goes on sale at some point: > 
http://us.acer.com/public/page4.do?link=oln56.redirect&dau22.oid=36061&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=25&CountryISOCtxParam=US&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&ctx3=-1&ctx4=United+States&crc=1730318441#inu57_50457>
 > > My poor old 110CT case is cracked and broken in so many places I?m amazed it?s> still working. Still, its been a great old war horse. But wifi internet> browsing 
has just become too much for it. > > Anyone know any good current deals on something like that Asus? Tis the time> to sta

RE: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?

2008-07-13 Thread Matthew Hanson
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:21:19 +
From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?


I guess the few left on the list are troupers who just don't have much to 
discuss anymore.  I confess I've been spending all my time on the Tosh 
U305-S2808 Best Buy return I won on EBay a while back for $523.  The 110 sits 
in its dock looking a bit sad these daze... 
 
The archives has our two posts Philip.  And our posts came through pretty 
quickly.  I was surprised, as I thought Dan's list server was probably clogged 
up with spam again.  So the at least the gears seem not too rusty.
Matt
Libretto list info: List archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com To unsubscribe: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/msg16212.html> Date: Sun, 13 
Jul 2008 20:03:29 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: libretto@basiclink.com> 
Subject: Re: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?> > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 
2008 14:15:15 +1200> From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: 
[LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?> > Hi Matt,> > I still receive 
messages (once every two months or so) so the list still > survives.> > I do 
wonder if the archives still exist.> > Tru www.webarchive.org a lot can still 
be found, but not all :-(> > Try also Xin's cool talk forums,> 
http://www.fixup.net/talk/> there's still traffic there on librettos.> (Funny 
detail: the forum SW doesn't seem to log you out if you close > your browser, 
only if you log out yourself. I seem to be logged in > perpetually there and as 
I lost my login details some years ago that is > A Good Thing - for me).> > 
Philip> > Matthew Hanson wrote:> > Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:02:42 +> > 
From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Subject: OPD: Dan's Basiclink 
Libretto List?> > > > > > Could it be? Last post to the list I have in my 
mailbox and see in the online archives is the one I posted (below).> > > > 
MattLibretto list info: List archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com To unsubscribe: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/msg16212.html> Date: Sat, 12 
Apr 2008 23:49:47 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: libretto@basiclink.com> 
Subject: Re: [LIB] Finally need a more powerful laptop> > Date: Sat, 12 Apr 
2008 23:48:10 -0700 (PDT)> From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: 
Re: [LIB] Finally need a more powerful laptop> > So much for the new Hotmail 
interface. Here's the post again from Yahoo:> 
-> > 
Well... the demands of networking have become so demanding that I?ve just got> 
to get something relatively small and light with more power than this old> 
100CT. Something for around the $500 mark. I saw a Toshiba on sale at Best> Buy 
last week for $429. But I?d like to get something with more CPU power than> it 
had. Something that can deal with MPEG2 video capturi> ng!> > which I read> 
requires at least a 1.8GHz cpu. > > This little Asus is close if goes on sale 
at some point: > 
http://us.acer.com/public/page4.do?link=oln56.redirect&dau22.oid=36061&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=25&CountryISOCtxParam=US&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&ctx3=-1&ctx4=United+States&crc=1730318441#inu57_50457>
 > > My poor old 110CT case is cracked and broken in so many places I?m amazed 
it?s> still working. Still, its been a great old war horse. But wifi internet> 
browsing has just become too much for it. > > Anyone know any good current 
deals on something like that Asus? Tis the time> to start following all the 
local and online sales. > Matt> > Libretto list info: List archive:> 
http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com To unsubscribe: 
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Re: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?

2008-07-13 Thread Philip Nienhuis

Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:15:15 +1200
From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?

Hi Matt,

I still receive messages (once every two months or so) so the list still 
survives.


I do wonder if the archives still exist.

Tru www.webarchive.org a lot can still be found, but not all  :-(

Try also Xin's cool talk forums,
   http://www.fixup.net/talk/
there's still traffic there on librettos.
(Funny detail: the forum SW doesn't seem to log you out if you close 
your browser, only if you log out yourself. I seem to be logged in 
perpetually there and as I lost my login details some years ago that is 
A Good Thing - for me).


Philip

Matthew Hanson wrote:

Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:02:42 +
From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OPD: Dan's Basiclink Libretto List?


Could it be?  Last post to the list I have in my mailbox and see in the online 
archives is the one I posted (below).
 
MattLibretto list info: List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com To unsubscribe: http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/msg16212.html> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:49:47 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: libretto@basiclink.com> Subject: Re: [LIB] Finally need a more powerful laptop> > Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:48:10 -0700 (PDT)> From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: [LIB] Finally need a more powerful laptop> > So much for the new Hotmail interface. Here's the post again from Yahoo:> -> > Well... the demands of networking have become so demanding that I?ve just got> to get something relatively small and light with more power than this old> 100CT. Something for around the $500 mark. I saw a Toshiba on sale at Best> Buy last week for $429. But I?d like to get something with more CPU power than> it had. Something that can deal with MPEG2 video capturi

ng!

  which I read> requires at least a 1.8GHz cpu. > > This little Asus is close if goes on sale at some point: > 
http://us.acer.com/public/page4.do?link=oln56.redirect&dau22.oid=36061&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=25&CountryISOCtxParam=US&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&ctx3=-1&ctx4=United+States&crc=1730318441#inu57_50457>
 > > My poor old 110CT case is cracked and broken in so many places I?m amazed it?s> still working. Still, its been a great old war horse. But wifi internet> browsing 
has just become too much for it. > > Anyone know any good current deals on something like that Asus? Tis the time> to start following all the local and online sales. 
> Matt> > Libretto list info: List archive:> http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com To unsubscribe: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/msg16212.html> > __> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has 
the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.co

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