Re: libtool 2 and dsohowto's comments?

2004-09-05 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Gary V.Vaughan wrote on Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 05:15:03PM CEST:
> On 4 Sep 2004, at 21:51, Tero Niemela wrote:
> 
> >>>http://people.redhat.com/drepper/dsohowto.pdf
*snip*
> >Section 2.2.6 is all about libtool and its
> >-export-symbols option. It ends with:
> >
> >"The only reason this method is mentioned here is that
> >there is hope libtool will learn about converting the
> >export lists into the anonymous version maps we have
> >seen in the previous section when the GNU linker is
> >used.
> >At that point libtool will become useful. Until then
> >relying on its -export-symbols options is misleading
> >at best."
> 
> Ah, I see the paper has revved since I last downloaded (and grown
> by 12 pages in size!).  Yes, those comments are perfectly reasonable.

But current Libtool does use -version-script on linux if ld supports
it..

> The -export-symbols option isn't at all fully featured yet, and even
> without taking Uli's comments into account needs some work post 
> libtool-2.0.

..so this comment about Libtool is not true (any more?).  Sure there are
many other interesting things mentioned in that article.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: What is the estimated timeline towards 2.0?

2004-09-05 Thread Gary V . Vaughan
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Hi Max,
On 5 Sep 2004, at 18:00, Max Bowsher wrote:
What is the estimated timeline towards 2.0?
An alpha every week or two until the tide of fault reports stems,
then I'll branch and roll 2.0 final.
Cheers,
Gary.
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What is the estimated timeline towards 2.0?

2004-09-05 Thread Max Bowsher
What is the estimated timeline towards 2.0?
Max.

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Re: libtool 2 and dsohowto's comments?

2004-09-05 Thread Gary V . Vaughan
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Hi Tero,
On 4 Sep 2004, at 21:51, Tero Niemela wrote:
Hi,
libtool hackers, as libtool 2 seems to be close, I'd
be intrested to know does it address the problems
mentioned in this well-known paper:
http://people.redhat.com/drepper/dsohowto.pdf
Care to elucidate?
Section 2.2.6 is all about libtool and its
-export-symbols option. It ends with:
"The only reason this method is mentioned here is that
there is hope libtool will learn about converting the
export lists into the anonymous version maps we have
seen in the previous section when the GNU linker is
used.
At that point libtool will become useful. Until then
relying on its -export-symbols options is misleading
at best."
Ah, I see the paper has revved since I last downloaded (and grown
by 12 pages in size!).  Yes, those comments are perfectly reasonable.
What ever you might think of that, I really recommend
you to take a look at the paper, it surely has some
good tips!
Indeed it does.
The -export-symbols option isn't at all fully featured yet, and even
without taking Uli's comments into account needs some work post 
libtool-2.0.
So in answer to your original question, libtool-2.0 certainly won't 
address the current shortcomings, but we will be starting to sort them 
out afterwards.  Feel free to issue a gentle reminder once the dust has 
settled on the release.

Cheers,
Gary.
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