Re: [libvirt] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine)

2018-06-05 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 07:16:56PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:12:32PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > eg old OS versions that only work with PC, or more commonly pre-existing > > cloud disk images that were built against PC can't be assumed to just > > work

Re: [libvirt] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine)

2018-06-05 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:12:32PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > eg old OS versions that only work with PC, or more commonly pre-existing > cloud disk images that were built against PC can't be assumed to just > work against q35, even if the OS in the image supports it. I don't understand

Re: [libvirt] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine)

2018-06-05 Thread Pavel Hrdina
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 03:07:04PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 11:03:46AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 03:44:39PM +0200, Pavel Hrdina wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:35:38AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 05,

Re: [libvirt] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine)

2018-06-05 Thread Pavel Hrdina
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 11:03:46AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 03:44:39PM +0200, Pavel Hrdina wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:35:38AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:12:32PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 05,

Re: [libvirt] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine)

2018-06-05 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 11:03:46AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 03:44:39PM +0200, Pavel Hrdina wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:35:38AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:12:32PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 05,

Re: [libvirt] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine)

2018-06-05 Thread Eduardo Habkost
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 03:44:39PM +0200, Pavel Hrdina wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:35:38AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:12:32PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:06:46AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > > > > (CCing

Re: [libvirt] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine)

2018-06-05 Thread Pavel Hrdina
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:35:38AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:12:32PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:06:46AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > > > (CCing libvir-list) > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:43:00AM +0100, Daniel P.

Re: [libvirt] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine)

2018-06-05 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:35:38AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:12:32PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:06:46AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > > > (CCing libvir-list) > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:43:00AM +0100, Daniel P.

Re: [libvirt] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine)

2018-06-05 Thread Eduardo Habkost
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:12:32PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:06:46AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > > (CCing libvir-list) > > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:43:00AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:27:46AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann

Re: [libvirt] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine)

2018-06-05 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:06:46AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > (CCing libvir-list) > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:43:00AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:27:46AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Add to that shortcuts like -cdrom > > >

[libvirt] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine)

2018-06-05 Thread Eduardo Habkost
(CCing libvir-list) On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:43:00AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:27:46AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > Add to that shortcuts like -cdrom > > > > stop working, > > > > > > Maybe is fixable. > > > > Already fixed for ages.