Re: Could you please help with questions about the net failover feature

[Laine Stump]

On 7/6/20 5:10 AM, Yalan Zhang wrote:


Hi Laine,

For the feature testing before, I only test the linux bridge setting as 
in 2), it works.
Now I tried 1), to use macvtap bridge mode connected to the PF, it can 
not work as the hostdev interface can not get dhcp ip address on the guest.

Check on host, the /var/log/messages and dmesg both says:

"Jul  6 04:54:45 dell-per730-xx kernel: ixgbe :82:00.1 enp130s0f1: 1 
Spoofed packets detected

..
Jul  6 04:56:17 dell-per730-xx kernel: ixgbe :82:00.1 enp130s0f1: 1 
Spoofed packets detected
Jul  6 04:56:54 dell-per730-xx kernel: ixgbe :82:00.1 enp130s0f1: 1 
Spoofed packets detected

"
(enp130s0f1 is the PF's interface name, and :82:00.1 is the PF's pci 
address)

# rpm -q kernel
kernel-4.18.0-193.4.1.el8_2.x86_64

Could you please help to confirm if this is a kernel bug?  Thank you 
very much!


Interesting. I'm not sure if this is expected behavior, or if it's 
improper behavior and it just hasn't been tested before (obviously based 
on my earlier recommendation, I think it *should* be able to work like 
this, and I *thought* I had tried it, but maybe I just imagined it :-/).


I'm Cc'ing Stefan Assmann to see if he has an opinion on whether or not 
this should work. For his convenience, here is a summary of the config: 
The setup is that there is a bridge-mode macvtap interface on the PF, 
and one of the VF's has been given the same MAC address as the macvtap. 
the macvtap interface is connected to an emulated NIC in the guest, and 
the VF is assigned to the guest with VFIO.


I'll try this today on my setup, which uses I350 cards (igb driver).






You have two choices for the backup virtio interface:

1) it can be a macvtap device connected to the PF of the same SRIOV device.

2) it can be a standard tap device connected to a Linux host bridge
(created outside libvirt in the host system network config) that is
attached to the PF (or alternately one of the VFs that isn't being used
for VMs, or to another physical ethernet adapter on the host that is
connected to the same network.




---
Best Regards,
Yalan Zhang
IRC: yalzhang


On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 6:50 AM Laine Stump > wrote:


On 3/21/20 1:08 AM, Yalan Zhang wrote:

 > In my understanding, the standby and primary hostdev interface
may be in
 > different subnet.

There is only one hostdev device in the team pair (that will be the one
with  since it needs to be unplugged
during migration). The other device must be a virtio device (the one
with ). And no, they cannot be on different
subnets. They must both connect into the same ethernet "collision
domain", such that the guest could assign the same IP address to either
of them and be able to communicate on the network.

There is some explanation of the use case for this option. and some
example config, here:

https://www.libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsTeaming

 > I'm not sure whether it is correct. Could you please help to
explain?
 > Thank you in advance.
 >
 > For example, primary hostdev is connected to vf-pool with
,
 > while the standby is connected to NAT network with " forward
dev='eth0'".
 > The standby interface will get ip as 192.168.122.x, but after
NAT, it
 > will be in the same subnet of the vf.
  >
 > So after the VF is unplugged, the packet will still broadcast in the
 > same subnet, and the vm will get the packet as the standby share the
 > same mac. Right?

No, not right :-)

The VF of an SRIOV network adapter is connected directly to the
physical
network, and will have an IP address that is on that network. Tap
devices plugged into the default network (or any other libvirt network
based on a bridge device that is created/managed by libvirt) have no
direct connection to the physical network, and are on a different
subnet. The fact that traffic from the guest *seems* to be coming from
an IP on the physical subnet is meaningless. The *guest* needs to be
able to use both NICs using the same IP address, and anything plugged
into the default network will need to have an IP address on a different
subnet from the perspective of the guest.

You have two choices for the backup virtio interface:

1) it can be a macvtap device connected to the PF of the same SRIOV
device.

2) it can be a standard tap device connected to a Linux host bridge
(created outside libvirt in the host system network config) that is
attached to the PF (or alternately one of the VFs that isn't being used
for VMs, or to another physical ethernet adapter on the host that is
connected to the same network.


It is simplest to have the same name refer to the connection on the
source and destination hosts of a migration. That can be handled by
creating a libvirt network to refer to the bridge device created
outside
  

Re: Could you please help with questions about the net failover feature

[Yalan Zhang]

Hi Laine,

For the feature testing before, I only test the linux bridge setting as in
2), it works.
Now I tried 1), to use macvtap bridge mode connected to the PF, it can not
work as the hostdev interface can not get dhcp ip address on the guest.
Check on host, the /var/log/messages and dmesg both says:

"Jul  6 04:54:45 dell-per730-xx kernel: ixgbe :82:00.1 enp130s0f1: 1
Spoofed packets detected
..
Jul  6 04:56:17 dell-per730-xx kernel: ixgbe :82:00.1 enp130s0f1: 1
Spoofed packets detected
Jul  6 04:56:54 dell-per730-xx kernel: ixgbe :82:00.1 enp130s0f1: 1
Spoofed packets detected
"
(enp130s0f1 is the PF's interface name, and :82:00.1 is the PF's pci
address)
# rpm -q kernel
kernel-4.18.0-193.4.1.el8_2.x86_64

Could you please help to confirm if this is a kernel bug?  Thank you very
much!



You have two choices for the backup virtio interface:

1) it can be a macvtap device connected to the PF of the same SRIOV device.

2) it can be a standard tap device connected to a Linux host bridge
(created outside libvirt in the host system network config) that is
attached to the PF (or alternately one of the VFs that isn't being used
for VMs, or to another physical ethernet adapter on the host that is
connected to the same network.




---
Best Regards,
Yalan Zhang
IRC: yalzhang


On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 6:50 AM Laine Stump  wrote:

> On 3/21/20 1:08 AM, Yalan Zhang wrote:
>
> > In my understanding, the standby and primary hostdev interface may be in
> > different subnet.
>
> There is only one hostdev device in the team pair (that will be the one
> with  since it needs to be unplugged
> during migration). The other device must be a virtio device (the one
> with ). And no, they cannot be on different
> subnets. They must both connect into the same ethernet "collision
> domain", such that the guest could assign the same IP address to either
> of them and be able to communicate on the network.
>
> There is some explanation of the use case for this option. and some
> example config, here:
>
>  https://www.libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsTeaming
>
> > I'm not sure whether it is correct. Could you please help to explain?
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
> > For example, primary hostdev is connected to vf-pool with ,
> > while the standby is connected to NAT network with " forward dev='eth0'".
> > The standby interface will get ip as 192.168.122.x, but after NAT, it
> > will be in the same subnet of the vf.
>  >
> > So after the VF is unplugged, the packet will still broadcast in the
> > same subnet, and the vm will get the packet as the standby share the
> > same mac. Right?
>
> No, not right :-)
>
> The VF of an SRIOV network adapter is connected directly to the physical
> network, and will have an IP address that is on that network. Tap
> devices plugged into the default network (or any other libvirt network
> based on a bridge device that is created/managed by libvirt) have no
> direct connection to the physical network, and are on a different
> subnet. The fact that traffic from the guest *seems* to be coming from
> an IP on the physical subnet is meaningless. The *guest* needs to be
> able to use both NICs using the same IP address, and anything plugged
> into the default network will need to have an IP address on a different
> subnet from the perspective of the guest.
>
> You have two choices for the backup virtio interface:
>
> 1) it can be a macvtap device connected to the PF of the same SRIOV device.
>
> 2) it can be a standard tap device connected to a Linux host bridge
> (created outside libvirt in the host system network config) that is
> attached to the PF (or alternately one of the VFs that isn't being used
> for VMs, or to another physical ethernet adapter on the host that is
> connected to the same network.
>
>
> It is simplest to have the same name refer to the connection on the
> source and destination hosts of a migration. That can be handled by
> creating a libvirt network to refer to the bridge device created outside
> libvirt (or to the PF directly if you're going to use macvtap.
>
> For example, if you're going to use macvtap, and the PF's name on the
> host is ens4f0, you'd just create this network:
>
>
>  persistent-net
>  
>
>  
> 
>
> any guest interface with this:
>
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
>
> will get a macvtap device that's connected to ens4f0 in bridge mode.
>
> Or, if your host has a bridge device called br0 that is directly
> attached to the physical network (in whatever manner, it doesn't
> matter), you can define the network this way:
>
>
>  persistent-net
>  
>  
> 
>
> The XML for the guest interface would be the same.
>
> Then for the vfio (transient) interface, you could also define a network:
>
> 
>   transient-net
>   
> 
>   
> 
>
> and instead of using  in the guest config, you
> would use this:
>
>
>  
>
>