Re: Free documentation licenses

2000-11-28 Thread John Cowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the general case, if the documentation is to be freely redistributable to a large license, a license which allows distribution under terms at least as liberal as the software license should be sufficient. Indeed, but that is a general point not specific to

Modifying existing licenses in minor ways

2000-11-28 Thread Adam C. Engst
Hey folks, A quick question. If you want to adopt an OSI-certified license to avoid the proliferation of yet more open source licenses, how do you deal with the fact that many of the open source licenses have specific language that doesn't make sense if used by any product other than what

Re: Free documentation licenses

2000-11-28 Thread kmself
on Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 01:43:59PM -0500, John Cowan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the general case, if the documentation is to be freely redistributable to a large license, a license which allows distribution under terms at least as liberal as the software

Re: Free documentation licenses

2000-11-28 Thread John Cowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it is specific to documentation, so long as the documentation doesn't incorporate code from the project. My point was that it is convenient for documentation and software to be under the same license, so that the same set of persons can make revisions to both in

Re: Modifying existing licenses in minor ways

2000-11-28 Thread Mitchell Baker
The MPL is due for a revision before long. I'd like to make the revised version as neutral as possible for just this reason. mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 12:25:56PM -0800, Adam C. Engst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hey folks, A quick question. If you want to

Re: Free documentation licenses

2000-11-28 Thread Mitchell Baker
We're also trying to figure out a documentation license for the Mozilla Project. One reason we've talked about using the same license for documentation and code is that it can be difficult to separate the two. For example, the Help documentation is included in electronic format as part of

Re: Free documentation licenses

2000-11-28 Thread David Johnson
On Tuesday 28 November 2000 02:26 pm, John Cowan wrote: If the software were GPL and the doco BSD, then if anyone rewrote the doco for greater clarity or some such, then he would be able to make the improved version proprietary and prevent it from being distributed with current or future

Re: Free documentation licenses

2000-11-28 Thread Rick Moen
begin John Cowan quotation: The term "relicense" should be avoided, as it leads to wifty thinking. No one but the copyright holder can "relicense" anything, in the sense of changing the license. You can create a *derivative* work containing BSD parts and GPL parts, and license the whole

Re: Modifying existing licenses in minor ways

2000-11-28 Thread Adam C. Engst
At 1:01 PM -0800 11/28/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A quick question. If you want to adopt an OSI-certified license to avoid the proliferation of yet more open source licenses, how do you deal with the fact that many of the open source licenses have specific language that doesn't make

Re: Modifying existing licenses in minor ways

2000-11-28 Thread kmself
on Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 02:36:53PM -0800, Mitchell Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 12:25:56PM -0800, Adam C. Engst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hey folks, A quick question. If you want to adopt an OSI-certified license to avoid the

Re: Free documentation licenses

2000-11-28 Thread kmself
on Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 05:26:20PM -0500, John Cowan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Software and its accompanying documentation are generally considered two seperate works. There is no licensing compatibility requirement between the docs and the code. Even where

Re: Free documentation licenses

2000-11-28 Thread Ben Tilly
Karsten Self wrote: on Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 05:26:20PM -0500, John Cowan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The way I read 3(c), the GNU GPL refers to the program, but doesn't preclude its inclusion into a larger, ***nonprogram*** work: [...] I think section 2 has a

Re: Free documentation licenses

2000-11-28 Thread John Cowan
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Rick Moen wrote: At work, I've tried to explain the matter by saying it's best to think of a composite work as not _having_ a licence, per se: The individual modules bear licences. The resulting composite, then, either is or is not legally distributable, depending on

Re: Free documentation licenses

2000-11-28 Thread kmself
on Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 02:43:13PM -0800, Mitchell Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: John Cowan wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Software and its accompanying documentation are generally considered two seperate works. There is no licensing compatibility requirement between the

Re: Free documentation licenses

2000-11-28 Thread John Cowan
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Ben Tilly wrote: I think section 2 has a lot to say about this. Its wording makes no - and allows no - distinction between programs and non-programs. However you may aggregate works together. So even though documentation and your program are distributed together,