Re: discuss: Duemetri Public License (DPL) Version 1.0

2002-11-20 Thread Bruce Dodson
The QPL uses the same tactic to control distribution of customized versions of Qt. But this creates is a pain for developers and end-users alike. At least your term #8 provides an alternative, changing this "requirement" to distribute patches into something that's optional. But it's confusing th

Re: time frame between request for approval and acknowledgement of request?

2002-11-20 Thread Bruce Dodson
I understand that, Russ, and I have a great respect for the work that you do. The role of "filter" is not a glamorous one. It certainly isn't a job that I would want, and yet there you are, doing it. I was just looking for an ACK that my email hadn't been eaten by your junk mail filter or whatev

Re: time frame between request for approval and acknowledgement of request?

2002-11-20 Thread Russell Nelson
Bruce Dodson writes: > What should one expect as a reasonable time period between the sumission of > a license-approval request, and some acknowledgement that the request has > been made? I'm a volunteer, Bruce, with a TODO list longer than your arm. The problem with license submittals is that

discuss: Duemetri Public License (DPL) Version 1.0

2002-11-20 Thread Graziano Poretti
[ Please discuss this license. Graziano reports that the only change from the Zope license are terms 7 and 8. -russ ] hi we would like to start an open source project on a product called "rainbow". the 1st version of the license is at http://www.duemetri.it/li

RE: Royalty-free Patent Policies for Open Source?

2002-11-20 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
Ernie Prabhakar asked (with reference to the W3C patent policy): > Does anyone have good examples of patent grants that meet the > terms of > this policy? For example, has anyone actually licensed > patents in this > way for use by the Open Source community? Is there a > well-defined way >

RE: time frame between request for approval and acknowledgement of request?

2002-11-20 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
OSI has a confusing queue. Plus the board has been involved in strategic issues regarding the open source definition, licensing law and patents that have interrupted license approval for some licenses. Should we go with the "squeeky wheel" process: The license that gets the most conversation and c

RE: discuss: Request for license approval...

2002-11-20 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
You are correct. Each license must be specifically approved. /Larry Rosen > -Original Message- > From: Bruce Dodson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 1:59 PM > To: John Cowan > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: discuss: Request for license approval... >

Re: discuss: Request for license approval...

2002-11-20 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
Hmm...I wish I understood what you were really asking. At any rate, be careful to note whether the author of a license is making a claim that the license, itself, is copyright-protected; if so, you should get permission before you copy it. Rod - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dodson" <[EM

time frame between request for approval and acknowledgement of request?

2002-11-20 Thread Bruce Dodson
What should one expect as a reasonable time period between the sumission of a license-approval request, and some acknowledgement that the request has been made? -- Background: On November 6, I wrote to license-discuss suggesting that the style of permission notice used in Python 1.5, OGDI, Lucen

Re: discuss: Request for license approval...

2002-11-20 Thread John Cowan
Bruce Dodson scripsit: > Is it true that changing proper names is not a problem? I had always been > of the impression that, e.g. I couldn't just use the Apache License, change > the proper names, and call my software OSI Certified. Who's to stop you, really? OSI would look stoopid suing you in

Re: discuss: Request for license approval...

2002-11-20 Thread Bruce Dodson
Is it true that changing proper names is not a problem? I had always been of the impression that, e.g. I couldn't just use the Apache License, change the proper names, and call my software OSI Certified. - Original Message - From: "John Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I urge you instead to s

Re: discuss: Request for license approval...

2002-11-20 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
It's entirely up to you, but I like the suggestion that the OSL be considered as a template in place of the KMSL. You might want to consider incorporating your splash screen provision in the OSL template. Rod - Original Message - From: "John Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ahmed Masud" <[

Royalty-free Patent Policies for Open Source?

2002-11-20 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
Hi all, http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/28135.html W3C rejects net patent tax, avoids web schism By Andrew Orlowski 16/11/2002 The web standards consortium W3C has agreed on a policy that should prevent nasty royalty surprises for developers in the future. Does anyone have good examples

Re: discuss: Request for license approval...

2002-11-20 Thread John Cowan
Ahmed Masud scripsit: > I will pass these on to our legal dept. and have them encorporate > appropriate language to cover these points. You can snarf useful language from http://www.opensource.org/licenses/academic.php > If i could possibly inquire, could you (or perhaps any one from the > dis

Re: discuss: Request for license approval...

2002-11-20 Thread John Cowan
Ahmed Masud scripsit: > This is a request for review of the Praetor Kernel Module Open Source > license for approval. The license text is accessable from: > > http://www.googgun.com/pkm-license.html Looks okay to me. It does indeed compel publication, which I think is unnecessary (just of

discuss: Request for license approval...

2002-11-20 Thread Ahmed Masud
[ Please discuss this license. Note that it has the same "you must publish" requirement as the APSL which RMS and others do not like. -russ ] Hello every one: This is a request for review of the Praetor Kernel Module Open Source license for approval. The license text is accessable from: ht

Re: Is the OpenMap license Open Source?

2002-11-20 Thread John Cowan
Colin 't Hart scripsit: > At http://www.openmap.org/ it is claimed that > the OpenMap(TM) package is Open Source. Wandering > over to www.opensource.org I find this claim no > longer means what it used to, and that it doesn't > mean that much if it doesn't say 'OSI Certified'. Well, it can't be t

Re: Is the OpenMap license Open Source?

2002-11-20 Thread Colin 't Hart
Hi, I hope this is the right place to ask this question. At http://www.openmap.org/ it is claimed that the OpenMap(TM) package is Open Source. Wandering over to www.opensource.org I find this claim no longer means what it used to, and that it doesn't mean that much if it doesn't say 'OSI Certifie