Re: [License-discuss] TCPDF license: LGPLv3 + a special clause: is this still considered Open Source?

2012-02-01 Thread Chris Travers
Does the GPL v3 give you the permission to drop legitimate copyright notices from software or accompanying documentation? I know as a software developer I would most certainly NOT drop such attributions for both legal and other reasons. I would add further that the requirement for

Re: [License-discuss] TCPDF license: LGPLv3 + a special clause: is this still considered Open Source?

2012-02-01 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012, at 01:55 AM, Chris Travers wrote: Does the GPL v3 give you the permission to drop legitimate copyright notices from software or accompanying documentation? As you note, the GPLv3 7b provides the right to require the preservation of legal notices and author attributions in

[License-discuss] CDDL 1.1 and GPL 2 with CPE

2012-02-01 Thread Gervais, Mathieu
Hi, Is there any particular reason why CDDL1.1 and GPL2 _with classpath exception_ are not approved by the OSI ? (i.e. http://glassfish.java.net/public/CDDL+GPL_1_1.html ) Thanks! -mathieu -- NOTICE: Morgan Stanley is

Re: [License-discuss] CDDL 1.1 and GPL 2 with CPE

2012-02-01 Thread John Cowan
Gervais, Mathieu scripsit: Is there any particular reason why CDDL1.1 and GPL2 _with classpath exception_ are not approved by the OSI ? As far as I know, the license stewards have never proposed them. -- John Cowan http://ccil.org/~cowan co...@ccil.org All isms should be wasms. --Abbie

Re: [License-discuss] CDDL 1.1 and GPL 2 with CPE

2012-02-01 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Gervais, Mathieu (mathieu.gerv...@morganstanley.com): Is there any particular reason why CDDL1.1 and GPL2 _with classpath exception_ are not approved by the OSI ? About the latter, at a guess: 1. It's not a licence. 2. And nobody submitted it. My new-BSD with required eating of a

Re: [License-discuss] CDDL 1.1 and GPL 2 with CPE

2012-02-01 Thread Richard Fontana
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 03:23:09PM -0500, Gervais, Mathieu wrote: Hi, Is there any particular reason why CDDL1.1 and GPL2 _with classpath exception_ are not approved by the OSI ? (i.e. http://glassfish.java.net/public/CDDL+GPL_1_1.html ) I am not sure when CDDL 1.1 was introduced but I

Re: [License-discuss] a GPLv3 compatible attribution for MIT/BSD?

2012-02-01 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Clark C. Evans (c...@clarkevans.com): As an update to this thread, I've revived my interest in trying to keep GPLv3 compatibility with this approach; a reasonable, attribution terms for a MIT derived license or the GPLv3 itself (under 7b). However, I've expanded the scope of this

Re: [License-discuss] a GPLv3 compatible attribution for MIT/BSD?

2012-02-01 Thread Karl Fogel
Rick Moen r...@linuxmafia.com writes: I'm generally doubtful about new licences without a really compelling reason, and the whole sordid badgeware episode from 2006-7 tends to make me particularly skeptical of novel licences talking about 'reasonable attribution terms'. Basically my feelings too,

Re: [License-discuss] CDDL 1.1 and GPL 2 with CPE

2012-02-01 Thread Gervais, Mathieu
Thanks guys. I understand that if no one bothered asking, it wouldn't be there. That's a fine answer. I just wanted to know if on the contrary it went thru review and didn't get approved (I'm not sure how I would be able to know that from the current OSI website. Maybe a list of

Re: [License-discuss] CDDL 1.1 and GPL 2 with CPE

2012-02-01 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Gervais, Mathieu (mathieu.gerv...@morganstanley.com): CDDL 1.1 is OSI Certified. It's not listed on the website, which I assumed is pretty much the definition of certified. Yes, apparently the version that's OSI Certified is CDDL 1.0 (which was a slight modification of MPL 1.1). I

Re: [License-discuss] a GPLv3 compatible attribution for MIT/BSD?

2012-02-01 Thread Clark C. Evans
Karl Rick, I'm proposing that we implement a open source catalog and credit system so that it is convenient for applications to display a graphical screen (or textual menu) listing all of a works component parts, information about them, copyright statements, license information, perhaps

Re: [License-discuss] a GPLv3 compatible attribution for MIT/BSD?

2012-02-01 Thread Richard Fontana
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 05:30:54PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: In the last decade, the aforementioned group of Web 2.0 / SaaS hucksters started referring to mandatory runtime advertising as 'attribution', too -- a rather propagandistic sleight of tongue, in my view -- an approach that reached the

Re: [License-discuss] a GPLv3 compatible attribution for MIT/BSD?

2012-02-01 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012, at 05:16 PM, Karl Fogel wrote: Rick Moen wrote: I'm generally doubtful about new licences without a really compelling reason, and the whole sordid badgeware episode from 2006-7 tends to make me particularly skeptical of novel licences talking about 'reasonable

Re: [License-discuss] a GPLv3 compatible attribution for MIT/BSD?

2012-02-01 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012, at 11:33 PM, Richard Fontana wrote: A key thing which I've seen abused is an elimination of the intended limited scope of the Appropriate Legal Notices requirement. While in theory a GPLv3 licensee may be subject to this requirement under some circumstances, the way one