Re: [License-discuss] [FAQ] Is some PHP program Open Source?

2013-01-25 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 01/08/2013 10:43 PM, Engel Nyst wrote: On 1/7/13, Ben Reser b...@reser.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Karl Fogel kfo...@red-bean.com wrote: What I meant was a specific rewording. In other words, I'm inviting you to do the work you're inviting me to do :-). I'll do it, it's a

Re: [License-discuss] [FAQ] Is some PHP program Open Source?

2013-01-25 Thread Reincke, Karsten
[...] You can see the PHP source code, so it's Open Source, right? That could be misleading, since the PHP source code could mean https://github.com/php/php-src. How about: FooProgram is written in PHP, and I have the source code. Does that mean it's definitely open source?

Re: [License-discuss] [FAQ] Is some PHP program Open Source?

2013-01-25 Thread Bruno Souza
How about being more to the point: Just because I have the source code for a program written in a script language should I consider it open source? We could reference a few script languages on the answer. Bruno. Weird? Mobile. On Jan 25, 2013 10:06 AM, Reincke, Karsten k.rein...@telekom.de

Re: [License-discuss] [FAQ] Is some PHP program Open Source?

2013-01-25 Thread Eitan Adler
On 25 January 2013 09:37, Bruno Souza br...@javaman.com.br wrote: How about being more to the point: Just because I have the source code for a program written in a script language should I consider it open source? How about Just because I have the source code for a program should I consider

Re: [License-discuss] [FAQ] Is some PHP program Open Source?

2013-01-25 Thread Richard Fontana
Would it be clearer to say: I have some code written in a scripting language. Does that mean it's open source by definition? 'Source code for a program written in a script language' is confusing to me because, as phrased, it could describe situations where the 'source code' spoken of is

Re: [License-discuss] [FAQ] Is some PHP program Open Source?

2013-01-25 Thread Cinly Ooi
Dear Fontana et al, On 25 January 2013 14:53, Richard Fontana rfont...@redhat.com wrote: Would it be clearer to say: I have some code written in a scripting language. Does that mean it's open source by definition? I think we should not limit the statement to scripting language because

Re: [License-discuss] [FAQ] Is some PHP program Open Source?

2013-01-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 05:43:07AM +0200, Engel Nyst wrote: In case it helps in any way, I'd suggest: You can see the PHP source code, so it's Open Source, right? No. The code of applications written in languages like PHP or JavaScript is visible, but that alone doesn't mean anything yet:

Re: [License-discuss] [FAQ] Is some PHP program Open Source?

2013-01-25 Thread Luis Villa
Friendly reminder to everyone that specific patches to the FAQ are always welcome :) On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 05:43:07AM +0200, Engel Nyst wrote: In case it helps in any way, I'd suggest: You can see the PHP source code,

Re: [License-discuss] [FAQ] Is some PHP program Open Source?

2013-01-25 Thread Cinly Ooi
Dear Chad, In case it helps in any way, I'd suggest: You can see the PHP source code, so it's Open Source, right? No. The code of applications written in languages like PHP or JavaScript is visible, but that alone doesn't mean anything yet: it always depends on the license under which

Re: [License-discuss] [FAQ] Is some PHP program Open Source?

2013-01-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 06:57:49PM +, Cinly Ooi wrote: I missed this until now. Only if the code is licensed under an approved Open Source license is probably not the most ideal way to say this part of it. Rather, say that it is open source only if the code is available under a

Re: [License-discuss] [FAQ] Is some PHP program Open Source?

2013-01-25 Thread Lawrence Rosen
Here is a useful and explicit definition you may want to use: The term Source Code means the preferred form of the Original Work for making modifications to it and all available documentation describing how to modify the Original Work. http://opensource.org/licenses/OSL-3.0

Re: [License-discuss] [FAQ] Is some PHP program Open Source?

2013-01-25 Thread John Cowan
Chad Perrin scripsit: 1. acquire a trademark for the term open source That turned out not to be possible for a variety of silly reasons. That's why we have the trademark OSI Certified. -- What asininity could I have uttered John Cowan co...@ccil.org that they applaud me thus?