Re: [License-discuss] Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.

2013-08-22 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Pamela Chestek wrote at 09:54 (EDT) on Monday: And the major substantive aspects are what is captured in the summary. A major issue, I think, is that most people are really bad at writing good summaries of licenses. FWIW, a group of user interface researchers who have worked with Free Software

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.

2013-08-22 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Pamela Chestek wrote at 12:18 (EDT) on Sunday: Why cannot an advocate for each license write a short blurb with the benefits and burdens of their own license? I don't think there's anything wrong with all the choices being positively-biased. This can be tested now: try it and see if

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.

2013-08-22 Thread Ben Tilly
The GPLv3 is a rewritten GPLv2 which is less US specific, and addresses additional copyleft weaknesses. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Engel Nyst engel.n...@gmail.com wrote: Hello license-discuss, On 08/18/2013 04:38 AM, Richard Fontana wrote: Independent of this point, I'm concerned

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.

2013-08-22 Thread Lawrence Rosen
Pamela Chestek wrote: I'm still having a hard time reconciling this with the also-held belief that license proliferation is bad. Perhaps, but the license proliferation issue is not quite helpful when phrased that way. It isn't that MORE licenses are necessarily bad. Instead, say that the

Re: [License-discuss] Unlicense CC0 and patents

2013-08-22 Thread Prashant Shah
Hi, On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Rick Moen r...@linuxmafia.com wrote: CCO contains a well-drafted fallback to permissive terms in the event that its primary intent runs afoul of local law (as is a serious problem with such efforts), while Unlicense is a badly drafted crayon licence,

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.

2013-08-22 Thread Richard Fontana
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:01:24AM -0400, Richard Fontana wrote: license oompatibility, License compatibility, that is. :) ___ License-discuss mailing list License-discuss@opensource.org

Re: [License-discuss] Unlicense CC0 and patents

2013-08-22 Thread Luis Villa
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Prashant Shah pshah.mum...@gmail.com wrote: CC0 explicitly states that it doesn't grant patent rights if there are any. Is this not going against the purpose of putting the work in public domain itself ? Not necessarily; many CC0 users are focused on data

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-22 Thread zooko
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 06:29:26PM -0400, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: Richard Fontana wrote at 08:20 (EDT): Not with an exception in the GPLv2 exception sense, and not without the result being (A)GPLv3-incompatible, since under TGPPL each downstream distributor appears to be required to give

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Widenius
Hi! Clark == Clark C Evans c...@clarkevans.com writes: Here is an example Business Source license... Clark Your proposal is an evaluation/crippled non-free license till a Clark particular Clark date, where upon it is automatically gifted under the GPL-3-or-later. Clark If this is the case,

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.

2013-08-22 Thread John Cowan
Bradley M. Kuhn scripsit: This can be tested now: try it and see if choosealicense.com accepts the patches. I am very disinclined to go to the effort of integrating my ideas (the actual code, which is plain HTML, is not relevant) into Github's code, absent some indication that they would be

Re: [License-discuss] Unlicense CC0 and patents

2013-08-22 Thread Clark C. Evans
Prashant Shah wrote: CC0 explicitly states that it doesn't grant patent rights if there are any. Is this not going against the purpose of putting the work in public domain itself? The rationale, as I understand, is that a group in a University or other large organization would like to make

Re: [License-discuss] Unlicense CC0 and patents

2013-08-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Prashant Shah (pshah.mum...@gmail.com): CC0 explicitly states that it doesn't grant patent rights if there are any. Is this not going against the purpose of putting the work in public domain itself ? In general, the focus of Creative Commons licences has been on maximising the

Re: [License-discuss] Unlicense CC0 and patents

2013-08-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Clark C. Evans (c...@clarkevans.com): The FSF considers works released under CC0 to be Free Software [1], but, the rationale for this determination was never disclosed. Perhaps because anyone could sue for patent infringement regardless of copyright? I might point out, too, in

Re: [License-discuss] Unlicense CC0 and patents

2013-08-22 Thread John Cowan
Clark C. Evans scripsit: The FSF considers works released under CC0 to be Free Software [1], but, the rationale for this determination was never disclosed. Perhaps because anyone could sue for patent infringement regardless of copyright? Indeed, there are many Free Software licenses without