Re: [License-discuss] Unlicense CC0 and patents

2013-08-23 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013, at 07:04 PM, Rick Moen wrote: The OSI couldn't come to an agreement on the fallback license, since it explicitly withheld patent rights [2]. Well, sort of. My recollection is that some of the folks on license-review including me merely suggested to CC that they

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-23 Thread fred trotter
Excuse me for my absence, I am having trouble managing a substantial increase in my inbound email. I must beg forgiveness twice since I know full well that so many on this thread receive much more email than I do. To remain productive, I would like to remind everyone what my goals are here: I

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-23 Thread zooko
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 09:41:31PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: I recommend that anyone using this use it in parallel with GPL 3-or-later, as you have done. That way, the program can't fail to be free software. And there is nothing to lose by doing this, since it permits anyone to

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-23 Thread zooko
Folks: I'm not sure, but I think some people on this thread might be confusing two different issues. Suppose Person A makes a work a1 and licenses it to Person B under licence L, and then Person B makes a derived work b1 and licenses it to Person C, also under licence L, and then Person C makes

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.

2013-08-23 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Bradley M. Kuhn scripsit: This can be tested now: try it and see if choosealicense.com accepts the patches. John Cowan wrote at 12:30 (EDT) on Thursday: I am very disinclined to go to the effort of integrating my ideas (the actual code, which is plain HTML, is not relevant) into Github's

[License-discuss] TGGPL as a GPL exception -- possibly OT (was Re: Open Source Eventually License Development)

2013-08-23 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Zooko, This thread my be drifting off-topic for license-discuss. I'm not sure if GPL exception drafting is appropriate here or not zooko wrote at 12:27 (EDT) on Wednesday: However there is a specific thing that I'm unwilling to allow: that if I make a work available to you under TGPPL, that

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.

2013-08-23 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Lawrence Rosen wrote at 16:47 (EDT) on Tuesday: Perhaps, but the license proliferation issue is not quite helpful when phrased that way. It isn't that MORE licenses are necessarily bad. Instead, say that the proliferation of BAD (or me-too or un-templated or legally questionable) licenses is

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-23 Thread zooko
Folks: I offer the following assertions about the Transitive Grace Period Public Licence (TGPPL) [1, 2]. * TGPPL is a Free Software and Open Source licence. (As I've argued: [3, 4].) * It is not redundant with any existing Free+Open licence. (As I've argued: [5, 2].) * It is not like the