[License-discuss] list currently on opensource.org/licenses [was Re: notes on a systematic approach to "popular" licenses]

2017-01-10 Thread Luis Villa
Changing subject line, since I think this discussion is somewhat distinct from the main subject of the other email (how to do much better going forward). And it is going to get into a silly level of detail ;) (That said, the quibbling over even these fairly small changes between people who agree

Re: [License-discuss] notes on a systematic approach to "popular" licenses

2017-01-10 Thread Henrik Ingo
Luis Thanks for keeping this discussion alive. My comments: As for popular licenses, I generally agree with your suggestions. I would also argue that coming up with a list of de-facto most popular licenses shouldn't be as bitterly controversial as you're prepared for, and maybe the history of

Re: [License-discuss] notes on a systematic approach to "popular" licenses

2017-01-10 Thread Richard Fontana
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 04:07:53PM +, Luis Villa wrote: > With all that in mind, I think that OSI needs a (mostly) data-driven > "popular" shortlist, based on a scan of public code + application of > (mostly?) objective rules to the outcome of that scan. > > To maintain OSI's reputation as

Re: [License-discuss] notes on a systematic approach to "popular" licenses

2017-01-10 Thread Richard Fontana
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 04:07:53PM +, Luis Villa wrote: > The proliferation report attempted to address this problem by categorizing > existing licenses. These categories were, intentionally or not, seen as the > "popular or strong communities list" and "everything else". Without a > process

Re: [License-discuss] [Non-DoD Source] notes on a systematic approach to "popular" licenses

2017-01-10 Thread Karan, Cem F CIV USARMY RDECOM ARL (US)
Got it, thank you for the clarification. Thanks, Cem Karan > -Original Message- > From: License-discuss [mailto:license-discuss-boun...@opensource.org] On > Behalf Of Luis Villa > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:01 PM > To: license-discuss@opensource.org > Subject: Re:

Re: [License-discuss] [Non-DoD Source] notes on a systematic approach to "popular" licenses

2017-01-10 Thread Luis Villa
I may not have been clear - under this proposal, the "special purpose licenses" category would continue to exist, and could be used for licenses like the ones you describe, Cem. Same with categories with more negative connotation, like "redundant", non-reusable, superseded, etc. It's not entirely

Re: [License-discuss] [Non-DoD Source] notes on a systematic approach to "popular" licenses

2017-01-10 Thread Karan, Cem F CIV USARMY RDECOM ARL (US)
I agree with the idea of this, but there will always be niche licenses that are needed and won't make it into the popular list. E.g., licenses that can be used on public domain software (like US Government works, which generally don't have copyright). These will need to be handled carefully,

[License-discuss] notes on a systematic approach to "popular" licenses

2017-01-10 Thread Luis Villa
[Apparently I got unsubscribed at some point, so if you've sent an email here in recent months seeking my feedback, please resend.] Hey, all- I promised some board members a summary of my investigation in '12-'13 into updating, supplementing, or replacing the "popular licenses" list. Here goes.