Re: Is inherited class a derivative work?

2001-10-13 Thread Greg London
Michael Beck wrote: Some people believe that when you subclass a new class, you are creating a derivative work in the copyright sense, especially when you override existing methods. The scary scenario is that somebody will inherit a class, make some modifications to it, and then claim

Re: binary restrictions?

2001-10-07 Thread Greg London
Steve Lhomme wrote: - Original Message - From: Greg London [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Lhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: Re: binary restrictions? | Steve Lhomme wrote: | | A binary is a derived work. | | Are you

Re: The Invisible Hand

2001-10-01 Thread Greg London
for my situation. If they want to go off on some rant of righteousness, I don't have to waste my time to listen. I just have to remind myself in the midst of the emails... ;) Greg London The Anti-Terrorism Act goes too far: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/21854.html Stop the madness before

Re: The Invisible Hand

2001-10-01 Thread Greg London
Everyone breath for a second. My understanding of David's original post was to assert that open and free were meaningless distinctions. because of Adam Smith's notion of Invisible Hand, it didn't matter where you start, you end up at effectively the same end point. Therfore there is no need

Re: click, click, boom

2001-09-26 Thread Greg London
Rick Moen wrote: begin Greg London quotation: Look, nobody's going to force-feed common sense to people who don't want to read the OSD in the spirit intended. One has to find one's own. If someone puts out a bunch of source code under the MIT license, and the distro is OSI certifiable

Re: click, click, boom

2001-09-26 Thread Greg London
Rick Moen wrote: begin Greg London quotation: If someone puts out a bunch of source code under the MIT license, and the distro is OSI certifiable, there is nothing to prevent someone else from redistributing it in binary form only. Their only penalty is that they lose OSI

Re: books about free software open source movement

2001-09-26 Thread Greg London
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who can tell me which books about free software movement and open source movement are popular in America, or worth reading for those who are interested in these movements? Could you list about five books? Thanks. I can tell you 1 offhand. Open Sources by O'Reilly.

Re: GPL vs APSL (was: YAPL is bad)

2001-09-25 Thread Greg London
David Johnson wrote: On Monday 24 September 2001 11:08 am, Greg London wrote: You err slightly in (B). It does not mean that the source code must be made equally available to those without the binary. you missed my following paragraph that said (paraphrasing) :(B) somewhat implies public

Re: OSD #2 (was Re: GPL vs APSL (was: YAPL is bad))

2001-09-25 Thread Greg London
Bruce Perens wrote: Both the MIT license and Public Domain fit under both the OSD and RMS's definition of Free Software, is it possible to take GPL'ed code, modify it, relicense it under a proprietary license, and distribute it only in binary form? my understanding is it is not possible.

click, click, boom

2001-09-25 Thread Greg London
under an OSI approved license. If an OSI certified program is re-distributed in manner that does not meet the OSD, OSI's only recourse is to revoke certification. Not all OSI approved licences require that re-distributions meet the OSD. Choose your license carefully. Greg -- Greg London x7541

The Cathedral and the Bazaar

2001-09-24 Thread Greg London
/history.html Finis Greg London with apologies in advance to Eric Raymond. -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: GPL vs APSL (was: YAPL is bad)

2001-09-24 Thread Greg London
% OSD 2: % The program must include source code, ... % % When some [program] is not distributed with % source code, there must be a well-publicized % means of obtaining the source code % % preferably, downloading via the Internet without charge. so, according to OSD, you have two options

Re: The Cathedral and the Bazaar

2001-09-24 Thread Greg London
Subtitle: Attack of the Bazaar-Nazi's http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:mss:3919:200109:eocppecokloobmpbdmgf Also, change teh number 11 to 26 in the text. I did not mean to imply the OSD bullets, but the OSD approved licenses themselves. Greg -- license-discuss archive is at

Re: GPL vs APSL (was: YAPL is bad)

2001-09-24 Thread Greg London
. The difference is APSL does not give you the option of limiting source code to people to whom you give your distributions. OSD allows source code to be contained within a circle of friends. IANAL Greg London -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: Backlog assistance?

2001-09-22 Thread Greg London
Alex Stewart wrote: If the point is to provide a few good, clear-cut licenses for people to choose from, that's one thing, and suggests the OSI should be very picky. If the goal is to encourage open-source licensing terms amongst the software community, that's very different, and

Re: Contract or License?

2001-09-14 Thread Greg London
Lawrence E. Rosen wrote: Copyright law does not prohibit use. It prohibits reverse engineering (and similar activities) under certain circumstances. I didn't intend to be subtle about the meaning of the word use. but reverse engineering was part of 'fair use' before DMCA, wasn't it? Greg

Re: copyright discussion

2001-09-12 Thread Greg London
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a newcomer.Could tell me what the DMCA is? good grief. your search engine must have flooded its carbeurator. cause mine came up with a bazillion hits with just 'dmca'. (yes, exactly 1 bazillion hits, no more, no less.) ;) but to give you a jump start, I think the