Re: [License-discuss] License incompatibility (was Re: Open source license chooser choosealicense.com) launched.

2013-09-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Bradley M. Kuhn (bk...@ebb.org): Rick, I've tried to reply at length below on the issue of license (in)compatibility. The below is probably the most I've ever written on the subject, but it's in some ways a summary of items that discussed regularly among various Free Software

Re: [License-discuss] License incompatibility (was Re: Open source license chooser choosealicense.com) launched.

2013-09-02 Thread Al Foxone
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 4:16 AM, John Cowan co...@mercury.ccil.org wrote: Al Foxone scripsit: I doubt that Red Hat’s own End User License Agreement is 'compatible' (according to you) with the GPL'd components in that combined work as whole. Anyway, that combined work as a whole must be full

Re: [License-discuss] License incompatibility (was Re: Open source license chooser choosealicense.com) launched.

2013-09-01 Thread Al Foxone
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Bradley M. Kuhn bk...@ebb.org wrote: I'd suspect everyone to agree that you must meet the redistribution requirements of all copyright licenses for a given work to have permission to redistribute. Thus, license compatibility *exists* as a concept because if

Re: [License-discuss] License incompatibility (was Re: Open source license chooser choosealicense.com) launched.

2013-09-01 Thread John Cowan
Al Foxone scripsit: I doubt that Red Hat’s own End User License Agreement is 'compatible' (according to you) with the GPL'd components in that combined work as whole. Anyway, that combined work as a whole must be full of proclaimed 'incompatibly' licensed components (once again according to

[License-discuss] License incompatibility (was Re: Open source license chooser choosealicense.com) launched.

2013-08-29 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Rick, I've tried to reply at length below on the issue of license (in)compatibility. The below is probably the most I've ever written on the subject, but it's in some ways a summary of items that discussed regularly among various Free Software licensing theorist for the past decade, particularly

[License-discuss] License incompatibility (was Re: Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.)

2013-08-28 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Lawrence Rosen wrote at 17:00 (EDT) on Tuesday: I asked for practical examples. You cited none. In the world of copyrights or most logical pursuits, absence of evidence isn't evidence. License compatibility issues come up regularly on lots of bug tickets and threads about licensing on lots of

Re: [License-discuss] License incompatibility (was Re: Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.)

2013-08-28 Thread Patrice-Emmanuel Schmitz
Till Jaeger answer to the question What is a derivative work? is (on slide 4): I dont know (and probably nobody else) ! I do agree with him as long there is no case law, but my personal feeling (which as no value as case law !) is that the Court of Justice of the European Union would *not* follow

Re: [License-discuss] License incompatibility (was Re: Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.)

2013-08-28 Thread Richard Fontana
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:59:43AM -0400, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: The GPL has always tried to go as far as copyright would allow to mandate software freedom. That's what Michael Meeks (and/or Jeremy Allison -- I heard them both use this phrase within a few weeks of each other and not sure who

Re: [License-discuss] License incompatibility (was Re: Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.)

2013-08-28 Thread Lawrence Rosen
-Original Message- From: Bradley M. Kuhn [mailto:bk...@ebb.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 8:00 AM To: license-discuss@opensource.org Subject: [License-discuss] License incompatibility (was Re: Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.) Lawrence Rosen wrote at 17

Re: [License-discuss] License incompatibility (was Re: Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.)

2013-08-28 Thread Al Foxone
I also believe that incompatibility is a myth. Here's excellent paper: http://www.btlj.org/data/articles/21_04_04.pdf DANGEROUS LIAISONS—SOFTWARE COMBINATIONS AS DERIVATIVE WORKS? DISTRIBUTION,INSTALLATION, AND EXECUTION OF LINKED PROGRAMS UNDER COPYRIGHT LAW, COMMERCIAL LICENSES, AND THE GPL

Re: [License-discuss] License incompatibility (was Re: Open source license chooser choosealicense.com launched.)

2013-08-28 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Larry, it seems that you responded to my point that calling the GPL by the name 'infection' is a slur that spreads needless discord with (paraphrased) it's not the GPL; it's the work that *you*, Bradley, and others have done enforcing the GPL that's an infection on our community. This doesn't