Re: [License-discuss] US Army Research Laboratory Open Source License proposal

2016-07-28 Thread Maarten Zeinstra
Hi, Yes I am suggesting that if the country of origin of the work does not assign copyright to the work then no copyright is assigned world-wide. My reasoning is that there is no entity to assign that copyright to. An example in a different field might support my argument. In the Netherlands

Re: [License-discuss] US Army Research Laboratory Open Source License proposal

2016-07-25 Thread Christopher Sean Morrison
> I have personally, on occasion, considered filing a Freedom of Information > Act request for useful government code to see if that works to pry free > software from government hands. I never did that. The U.S. government has > almost always proven to be very generous without demands. Please

Re: [License-discuss] US Army Research Laboratory Open Source License proposal

2016-07-23 Thread Maarten Zeinstra
Is that the correct interpretation of the Berne convention? The convention assigns copyright to foreigners of a signatory state with at least as strong protection as own nationals. Since US government does not attract copyright I am unsure if they can attract copyright in other jurisdictions.

Re: [License-discuss] US Army Research Laboratory Open Source License proposal

2016-07-23 Thread Lawrence Rosen
ECOM ARL (US) [mailto:cem.f.karan@mail.mil] Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 2:01 PM To: license-discuss@opensource.org Subject: [License-discuss] US Army Research Laboratory Open Source License proposal Hi, my name is Cem Karan. I work for the US Army Research Laboratory (ARL) in Adelphi, MD. I

Re: [License-discuss] US Army Research Laboratory Open Source License proposal

2016-07-23 Thread Philippe Ombredanne
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Karan, Cem F CIV USARMY RDECOM ARL (US) wrote: > Hi, my name is Cem Karan. I work for the US Army Research Laboratory (ARL) in > Adelphi, MD. I'm in charge of defining the Open Source policy for ARL. As a > part of this, we need a

Re: [License-discuss] US Army Research Laboratory Open Source License proposal

2016-07-23 Thread Gervase Markham
On 22/07/16 22:01, Karan, Cem F CIV USARMY RDECOM ARL (US) wrote: > Unfortunately, we cannot directly use the Apache 2 license for all of our > code. Most of our researchers work for the US Federal Government and under US > copyright law any works they produce during the course of their duties do

Re: [License-discuss] US Army Research Laboratory Open Source License proposal

2016-07-22 Thread John Cowan
Karan, Cem F CIV USARMY RDECOM ARL (US) scripsit: > Finally, there is opinion within the US Government that while there is no US > copyright protection, copyright attaches outside of the US. Thus, if a > project is downloaded and used outside of the USA, then any work produced by a > US

[License-discuss] US Army Research Laboratory Open Source License proposal

2016-07-22 Thread Karan, Cem F CIV USARMY RDECOM ARL (US)
Hi, my name is Cem Karan. I work for the US Army Research Laboratory (ARL) in Adelphi, MD. I'm in charge of defining the Open Source policy for ARL. As a part of this, we need a license that meets our legal and regulatory needs, but is ideally fully interchangeable with everything licensed